What to expect if President Obama win...

What to expect if President Obama wins second term

There are 4570 comments on the Philadelphia's WB 17 story from Sep 9, 2012, titled What to expect if President Obama wins second term. In it, Philadelphia's WB 17 reports that:

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Farmington, MO

#26 Sep 10, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>He supports the UN ban that will effect all guns in the USA..........
"U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has not signed, nor has the U.S. Congress ratified, a United Nations (U.N.) arms treaty. In fact, the content of such a treaty hasn't even been finalized yet. A first draft of the Arms Trade Treaty was created at a U.N. conference in July 2012, but action on the treaty was indefinitely suspended after the United States (among other countries) declined to support a vote on the current text and asked for more time.
The Arms Trade Treaty has nothing to do with restricting the legal sale or ownership of guns within the United States. The aim of the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty is to combat the illicit international trade of arms by "tightening regulation of, and setting international standards for, the import, export and transfer of conventional weapons" in order to "close gaps in existing regional and national arms export control systems that allow weapons to pass onto the illicit market." The text of the proposed treaty specifically "reaffirms the sovereign right and responsibility of any State to regulate and control transfers of conventional arms that take place exclusively within its territory, pursuant to its own legal or constitutional systems," so even if such a treaty came to pass, U.S. rights and laws regarding the sale and ownership of small arms would still apply within the United States.
No such treaty could "bypass the normal legislative process in Congress," as all treaties to which the U.S. is a signatory must first be approved by a two-thirds vote of the U.S. Senate before they are considered to be ratified and binding.
The President of the United States cannot enact a "complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations." The right to keep and bear arms is guaranteed in the Constitution of the United States, and in the 1957 case Reid v. Covert, the U.S. Supreme Court established that the Constitution supersedes international treaties ratified by the U.S. Senate.
There is no "legal way around the 2nd Amendment" other than a further amendment to the Constitution that repeals or alters it, or a Supreme Court decision that radically reinterprets how the 2nd Amendment is to be applied."

You really have to stop paying attention to those spam emails you get, claiming untrue things, just to scare the population into voting for the GOP!

Their platform is lies, fear, hate, and "God is on our side". They use those, and then tell you they are all about the economy, which they have no new plan for whatsoever!

They have the Bush economists and the Bush plan, because it deserves a second try! At least in their opinion!
Good thing Romney is so far behind in this election and sliding further all the time.

It reaffirms my belief, that people in this country are brighter than the GOP would like them to be!
guest

Farmington, MO

#27 Sep 10, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>Business owners are sitting on record amounts of cash and will not cut loose with it as long as oslama is in office.......

So it is impossible for the economy to improve under oslama......
So you admit they are making record profits and not hiring anyone. Guess I was right on that one also. Apparently demand drives business hiring and expanding, not how much money they have in the bank!

Yet they say they need more breaks, then they will hire! They've been using that line for 30 years, and the GOP faithful have bought it hook line and sinker!
guest

Farmington, MO

#28 Sep 10, 2012
Bama Yankee wrote:
<quoted text>How do you expect him to balance the budget when his own party refuses to pass his budget?
Well since Romney has admitted that he wouldn't be able to balance a budget for an additional 8-10 years, why should we expect more from Obama?

I do expect more, I believe it will be close to balanced in the next four years, and the GOP will be a minority party in this country, and hopefully unable to break us again!

Maybe then they will go back to being the great political party they once were! That gave us fiscal conservative politicians that represented the people of our country, instead of just a special interest party!
Fox News Snake Oil Lies

New York, NY

#29 Sep 10, 2012
Bill Clinton: The Great Deregulator
September 10, 2012 / http://tinyurl.com/culdhuu
Bill Clinton bears as much responsibility as any politician for the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, and the wild applause for his disingenuous speech at the Democratic National Convention last week is a sure sign of the poverty of what passes for progressive politics.

Do those convention delegates, and the fawning media that were wowed by the former president’s rhetorical seductions, not recall that just before he left office Clinton signed off on the game-changing legislation that ended the sensible rules imposed on Wall Street during the Great Depression? It was Clinton who cooperated with the Republicans in reversing the legacy of FDR’s New Deal, opening the floodgates of unfettered avarice that almost drowned the world’s economy during the reign of George W. Bush.

How convenient to ignore the Financial Services Modernization Act, which Clinton signed into law to summarily end the Glass-Steagall barrier against the commingling of investment and commercial banking. Do the Democrats not remember that Citigroup, the first too-big-to-fail bank made legal by the law Clinton signed, became the $15 million employer of Robert Rubin, the Clinton treasury secretary who led the fight for the law that legalized the creation of Citigroup? Or that Citigroup—led by Sanford Weill, to whom Clinton gave one of the souvenir pens he used to approve that onerous legislation—went on to be a major player in the subprime mortgage swindles and had to be bailed out with more than $50 billion of taxpayer funds?
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/09/10-5...

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#30 Sep 10, 2012
ToManyLaws wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL>...Yes the rich and business is sitting on moneyw aiting for the GOP to give them more freebies and to get laws made to out source more jobs....YEP THE RICH AND BUSINESS ARE TRAITORS....They will hurt this nation to get there way....
What people like you don't understand is that business are in business to make a profit.......

I was developing a atmospheric water generator and chose to move the company and research team to Mexico....

Mexico offered me near ZERO taxes and Canada offered me a max rate of 15% when in California I would have been over 40%

The cost of moving the team to Mexico was a one time expense and even as all of my crew is from the USA this move will allow me to reduce the cost to the consumer by almost 30%

Business and the rich never pay one penny in taxes.....If yo put a new 10 percent tax on all business in the USA the cost of goods would rise between 15% and 20 percent...

Even products like food that don't have sales tax will still see the increase...

So when liberals tax the rich and business all they are really doing is taxing the consumers....

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#31 Sep 10, 2012
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
Well since Romney has admitted that he wouldn't be able to balance a budget for an additional 8-10 years, why should we expect more from Obama?
I do expect more, I believe it will be close to balanced in the next four years, and the GOP will be a minority party in this country, and hopefully unable to break us again!
Maybe then they will go back to being the great political party they once were! That gave us fiscal conservative politicians that represented the people of our country, instead of just a special interest party!
oslama will never be able to balance a budget as business owners will not start spending as long as the economy slayer is in office....

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#32 Sep 10, 2012
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
"U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has not signed, nor has the U.S. Congress ratified, a United Nations (U.N.) arms treaty. In fact, the content of such a treaty hasn't even been finalized yet. A first draft of the Arms Trade Treaty was created at a U.N. conference in July 2012, but action on the treaty was indefinitely suspended after the United States (among other countries) declined to support a vote on the current text and asked for more time.
The Arms Trade Treaty has nothing to do with restricting the legal sale or ownership of guns within the United States. The aim of the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty is to combat the illicit international trade of arms by "tightening regulation of, and setting international standards for, the import, export and transfer of conventional weapons" in order to "close gaps in existing regional and national arms export control systems that allow weapons to pass onto the illicit market." The text of the proposed treaty specifically "reaffirms the sovereign right and responsibility of any State to regulate and control transfers of conventional arms that take place exclusively within its territory, pursuant to its own legal or constitutional systems," so even if such a treaty came to pass, U.S. rights and laws regarding the sale and ownership of small arms would still apply within the United States.
No such treaty could "bypass the normal legislative process in Congress," as all treaties to which the U.S. is a signatory must first be approved by a two-thirds vote of the U.S. Senate before they are considered to be ratified and binding.
The President of the United States cannot enact a "complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations." The right to keep and bear arms is guaranteed in the Constitution of the United States, and in the 1957 case Reid v. Covert, the U.S. Supreme Court established that the Constitution supersedes international treaties ratified by the U.S. Senate.
There is no "legal way around the 2nd Amendment" other than a further amendment to the Constitution that repeals or alters it, or a Supreme Court decision that radically reinterprets how the 2nd Amendment is to be applied."
You really have to stop paying attention to those spam emails you get, claiming untrue things, just to scare the population into voting for the GOP!
Their platform is lies, fear, hate, and "God is on our side". They use those, and then tell you they are all about the economy, which they have no new plan for whatsoever!
They have the Bush economists and the Bush plan, because it deserves a second try! At least in their opinion!
Good thing Romney is so far behind in this election and sliding further all the time.
It reaffirms my belief, that people in this country are brighter than the GOP would like them to be!
oslama the economy slayer has said many times he supports it..........ROTFLMAO

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#33 Sep 10, 2012
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
So you admit they are making record profits and not hiring anyone. Guess I was right on that one also. Apparently demand drives business hiring and expanding, not how much money they have in the bank!
Yet they say they need more breaks, then they will hire! They've been using that line for 30 years, and the GOP faithful have bought it hook line and sinker!
Learn to read..........Record cash has nothing to do with profits.....

Business don't trust oslama and after he told Google that they did not pay enough in taxes many companies like mine just moved.....

Nobody trust the economy slayer except his loyal sheeples.......

Since: Oct 08

Alpharetta, GA

#34 Sep 10, 2012
there is a good chance he plans to put 'us' back in chains. Yes sir, payback for 400 years of oppression is gonna be rough.

we shoulda picked our own cotton.

“Waytogo”

Since: Oct 09

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#35 Sep 10, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
What people like you don't understand is that business are in business to make a profit.......
I was developing a atmospheric water generator and chose to move the company and research team to Mexico....
Mexico offered me near ZERO taxes and Canada offered me a max rate of 15% when in California I would have been over 40%
The cost of moving the team to Mexico was a one time expense and even as all of my crew is from the USA this move will allow me to reduce the cost to the consumer by almost 30%
Business and the rich never pay one penny in taxes.....If yo put a new 10 percent tax on all business in the USA the cost of goods would rise between 15% and 20 percent...
Even products like food that don't have sales tax will still see the increase...
So when liberals tax the rich and business all they are really doing is taxing the consumers....
I own my own business I get that....But if I had money and profit margin is good I would not lay people off or out source jobs just to be greedy.....Taxes for businesses have not been as low as they are since before WW2...Taxes keep going down and so do jobs. TAXS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM GREED AND NOT CARING ABOUT THIS NATION ARE....

“Waytogo”

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#36 Sep 10, 2012
If I had a million dollars sitting arund like the rich and big business does I would expand and create many jobs...BUT THEN I AM NOT A TRAITOR LIKE THE RICH..

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#37 Sep 10, 2012
ToManyLaws wrote:
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I own my own business I get that....But if I had money and profit margin is good I would not lay people off or out source jobs just to be greedy.....Taxes for businesses have not been as low as they are since before WW2...Taxes keep going down and so do jobs. TAXS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM GREED AND NOT CARING ABOUT THIS NATION ARE....
Business are holding on to cash because they don't trust oslama.....

If the business is not going to make a profit for its owners then cuts will be made....

Taxes for business are double in the USA compared to Canada.....
Look at what happened to California?
Why did Apple move part of their company to Nevada years ago?
Why are they moving their headquarters to Texas today?
The weather??????
NOPE
TAXES........

Every dime of taxes liberals force onto business the business just turn around and force it onto the consumers.....
A tax on any business hurts the poor in the world the most.....

What do you think a 10 percent tax on fuel does to the price of tomatoes?

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#38 Sep 10, 2012
ToManyLaws wrote:
If I had a million dollars sitting arund like the rich and big business does I would expand and create many jobs...BUT THEN I AM NOT A TRAITOR LIKE THE RICH..
When you are a business that spends billions per year have a billion dollars sitting around is wise....

If you had a million dollars sitting around but needed to spend a million dollars per year to keep your business open would you really spend the money not knowing if you will be able to pay your bills in 6 months????

Only a moron would.....

“Waytogo”

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#39 Sep 10, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
Business are holding on to cash because they don't trust oslama.....
If the business is not going to make a profit for its owners then cuts will be made....
Taxes for business are double in the USA compared to Canada.....
Look at what happened to California?
Why did Apple move part of their company to Nevada years ago?
Why are they moving their headquarters to Texas today?
The weather??????
NOPE
TAXES........
Every dime of taxes liberals force onto business the business just turn around and force it onto the consumers.....
A tax on any business hurts the poor in the world the most.....
What do you think a 10 percent tax on fuel does to the price of tomatoes?
Businesses are holding on to cash because they are TRAITORS..........No matter what lie you tell facts crush you nazi fascist GOP turds every time.....WE THE PEOPLE KNOW YOUR LYING....GOT IT HITLER??????
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#40 Sep 10, 2012
If Obama is Re-elected:
By 2016 there will be a weakening of America's position as a Superpower so that we are more equal with other nations in the world (primarily by reducing nuclear weapons to 300 and eventually and ideally to 0), redistributing wealth in America by higher taxation of the wealthy, isolating Israel as the Middle East and North Africa become essentially the United States of Islam. Also spending will raise the debt to 20 trillion by 2016, putting the economy on the tipping point of collapse. This will require the higher taxation and the need to cut costs by drastically slashing military and defense spending. President Obama wants to significantly reduce the U.S.'s influence within the world while increasing the influence of nations that he believes have suffered or been held back economically or militarily due to U.S. and western domination."
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In other words, it would really, really suck.

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#41 Sep 10, 2012
ToManyLaws wrote:
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Businesses are holding on to cash because they are TRAITORS..........No matter what lie you tell facts crush you nazi fascist GOP turds every time.....WE THE PEOPLE KNOW YOUR LYING....GOT IT HITLER??????
Do you really think that business should not keep enough cash on hand to weather the storm???
That is why most liberals fail at business.....

When oslama told Google they were not paying enough in taxes it sent a shutter down the backs of all business owners.....

If the moron thinks he can force Americans and business to buy his over priced oslamacare then what else can they force on them???

Do you know what the word NAZI stands for?
Hitler and his party were the liberal socialist..........ROTFLMAO

Business are holding onto cash because they don't trust oslama the economy slayer and until he is booted out of office there will be NO recovery.....

Just look at California and what the liberals and their taxes did there......
Texas has a unemployment rate of 6% and horrible weather compared to California but business are moving there at a faster rate than ever.

Business once flocked to California as it was a great place to live.....
Today they are leaving because of taxes and regulations....

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#42 Sep 10, 2012
Eighthman wrote:
If Obama is Re-elected:
By 2016 there will be a weakening of America's position as a Superpower so that we are more equal with other nations in the world (primarily by reducing nuclear weapons to 300 and eventually and ideally to 0), redistributing wealth in America by higher taxation of the wealthy, isolating Israel as the Middle East and North Africa become essentially the United States of Islam. Also spending will raise the debt to 20 trillion by 2016, putting the economy on the tipping point of collapse. This will require the higher taxation and the need to cut costs by drastically slashing military and defense spending. President Obama wants to significantly reduce the U.S.'s influence within the world while increasing the influence of nations that he believes have suffered or been held back economically or militarily due to U.S. and western domination."
/
In other words, it would really, really suck.
If reelected it will be the end of the USA as we know it.....
Outta Luck

Ames, IA

#44 Sep 10, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
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Just look at California and what the liberals and their taxes did there......
Texas has a unemployment rate of 6% and horrible weather compared to California but business are moving there at a faster rate than ever.
Business once flocked to California as it was a great place to live.....
Today they are leaving because of taxes and regulations....
California is one of the most profitable states. They actually give more money to the Feds then they take back.
California is in the black. They do not need as much feeral suport as...Texas.

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#45 Sep 10, 2012
Outta Luck wrote:
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California is one of the most profitable states. They actually give more money to the Feds then they take back.
California is in the black. They do not need as much feeral suport as...Texas.
Are you really that stupid???

How many cities in Texas are broke like in California???

do you really need me to post links for you showing how broke California is???

How many business are leaving Texas and moving to California????
NONE

How many are leaving California and moving to Texas?
Thousands..........ROTFLMAO
guest

Farmington, MO

#46 Sep 10, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>oslama will never be able to balance a budget as business owners will not start spending as long as the economy slayer is in office....
Where do you get this stuff? Lol!

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