California Plans Aid to Immigrant Minors

California Plans Aid to Immigrant Minors

There are 23 comments on the ABC News story from Aug 21, 2014, titled California Plans Aid to Immigrant Minors. In it, ABC News reports that:

California lawmakers will approve legislation supported by Gov. Jerry Brown to spend $3 million in state money to provide legal help for unaccompanied immigrant children from Central America, Democratic leaders announced Thursday.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at ABC News.

First Prev
of 2
Next Last

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Level 10

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#1 Aug 22, 2014
The decent thing to do would be to return these kids to their countries of origin. It is ridiculous to strong-arm Americans into being their “foster” parents. The excuse of fleeing violence holds no water…we have plenty of violence in our own country, and I don’t see our kids running into Canada, expecting her citizens to support them. What kinds of parents allow their kids to travel long distances alone facing the elements and murderous coyotes to achieve the end goal of milking Americans for hand-outs? This president’s actions have definitely exacerbated the illegal immigration problems we face. Not allowing ICE and our border agents to do the job they hired on to do is the collective act of inept and traitorous politicians.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Level 8

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#2 Aug 22, 2014
The House and the Senate need to Fish or Cut Bait!

Our population is out of control and needs to be reined in,we cannot continue to allow in over 900,000 legal immigrants a year,grant amnesty to 11.6 million illegal aliens and baby sit 57,000 illegal alien teenagers all.at the expense of the American Tax Payers.

Our current population is 317 million and counting,our Farm land is being covered with Concrete and we're running out of Water. At some time in the future the three will collide, do we really want to become another China because that's the direction we're headed.

I urge you to contact your U.S. Senators and Congressman with this message "Get it right or get out" and a reminder that when you vote in November 2014, a new Broom sweeps clean.
Memo From Turner

Cortlandt Manor, NY

#3 Aug 22, 2014
teddyr4me wrote:
The decent thing to do would be to return these kids to their countries of origin. It is ridiculous to strong-arm Americans into being their “foster” parents. The excuse of fleeing violence holds no water…we have plenty of violence in our own country, and I don’t see our kids running into Canada, expecting her citizens to support them. What kinds of parents allow their kids to travel long distances alone facing the elements and murderous coyotes to achieve the end goal of milking Americans for hand-outs? This president’s actions have definitely exacerbated the illegal immigration problems we face. Not allowing ICE and our border agents to do the job they hired on to do is the collective act of inept and traitorous politicians.
To compare violence rates in the US to the violence rates in Central America is a stretch. Presently the rate of violent death in Honduras is TWICE as high as it was in Iraq at the height of the Gulf War.

In the US of course the rate of violent crimes is at a fifty year low.

We should also remember that the problems in Central America as largely due to the demand for drugs by Americans.

Two things to bear in mind about Obama in this situation. First is that DACA clearly stated that those covered had to be in the US prior to June 15, 2007 and they had to have been in the US for five years after that and must either be enrolled in school have a diploma or be in the military. None of these kids arriving now would be qualified under ANY of these requirements.

The second thing to consider is that when they interviewed the kids less than 1% had ever heard of DACA.

They are coming because of asylum laws that have been on the books since the 1920's and a 2008 law signed by Bush. Many of us have been quite clear that the immigration laws should be changed, but many people on these boards think they are perfect and should remain as they are now. These are the consequences.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Level 10

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#4 Aug 22, 2014
Memo. considering what goes on daily in Chicago and Memphis, it is not much of a stretch. Also, thnk of the costs that will be incurred in evey school district that has had these kids forced into their enrollment. Schools get their budgets approved pior to the start of school, and the added children will cost the schools dearly, since their projections for the next year's needs have not included these additional kids and the extra services they will require. Again, who gets stuck with the costs? It is time for this administration to think about Americans who will be forced to have less when they get taxed more to support kids nobody invited. Larger classroom enrollment hurts our kids quite dearly, Our children have to come first. You do know that because Mexico dumped its people onto us, her unemployment rate has diminished, while ours still is not where it shoud be to get our economy back on track. I am sorry, but it is time to send these folks packing. Why do we keep sending aid, when their home countries should be sending us aid to help defray the costs of the citizens who are on our doorsteps?
Memo From Turner

Cortlandt Manor, NY

#5 Aug 22, 2014
teddyr4me wrote:
Memo. considering what goes on daily in Chicago and Memphis, it is not much of a stretch. Also, thnk of the costs that will be incurred in evey school district that has had these kids forced into their enrollment. Schools get their budgets approved pior to the start of school, and the added children will cost the schools dearly, since their projections for the next year's needs have not included these additional kids and the extra services they will require. Again, who gets stuck with the costs? It is time for this administration to think about Americans who will be forced to have less when they get taxed more to support kids nobody invited. Larger classroom enrollment hurts our kids quite dearly, Our children have to come first. You do know that because Mexico dumped its people onto us, her unemployment rate has diminished, while ours still is not where it shoud be to get our economy back on track. I am sorry, but it is time to send these folks packing. Why do we keep sending aid, when their home countries should be sending us aid to help defray the costs of the citizens who are on our doorsteps?
Comparing violence rates is a stretch so offensive that it is not even worth discussing.

As for the schools, most of these kids are being held in detention. They are not going to public schools. Others who already have family members in the country are being placed with them and will be going to school. The family members have of course been paying school and property taxes already even if they had no kids in the schools at the time. Do you think we should be reviewing the tax records of all undocumented people and refunding their schools taxes if they do not have kids in the school? Using your logic it would be unfair for them to pay taxes if their family is not benefiting.

These are the silly side issues that are used to muddle things. Simply put these people took advantage of a law that enables them to come as they did. It does not matter if you like the law or not. Now it must be dealt with in accordance with the immigration laws that everybody on these boards hold so near and dear.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Level 10

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#6 Aug 22, 2014
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
Comparing violence rates is a stretch so offensive that it is not even worth discussing.
As for the schools, most of these kids are being held in detention. They are not going to public schools. Others who already have family members in the country are being placed with them and will be going to school. The family members have of course been paying school and property taxes already even if they had no kids in the schools at the time. Do you think we should be reviewing the tax records of all undocumented people and refunding their schools taxes if they do not have kids in the school? Using your logic it would be unfair for them to pay taxes if their family is not benefiting.
These are the silly side issues that are used to muddle things. Simply put these people took advantage of a law that enables them to come as they did. It does not matter if you like the law or not. Now it must be dealt with in accordance with the immigration laws that everybody on these boards hold so near and dear.
Stop it, you know that there are many kids who are not with their parrents and YES, they are coming to our schools and taxpayers will pay for their educations...not their parents.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/chicago-vi...

http://www.memphisflyer.com/NewsBlog/archives...

http://www.newsmax.com/headline/illegal-immig...

The way the kids have been spread around, some scools districts ARE going to be hit hard.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Level 10

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#7 Aug 22, 2014
s/b: parents, schools
Memo From Turner

Cortlandt Manor, NY

#8 Aug 22, 2014
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>
Stop it, you know that there are many kids who are not with their parrents and YES, they are coming to our schools and taxpayers will pay for their educations...not their parents.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/chicago-vi...
http://www.memphisflyer.com/NewsBlog/archives...
http://www.newsmax.com/headline/illegal-immig...
The way the kids have been spread around, some scools districts ARE going to be hit hard.
Your comments regarding violence are disgusting. Simply disgusting.

And as for the schools, yes the kids will be spread out wherever they have family members. Since these taxpaying families have been paying for the education of other people's kids all of these years what is the issue? Clearly you are happy taking their handouts, but now that they are educating their own kids it has suddenly become a problem.
Guess Who

Sterling, CO

#9 Aug 22, 2014
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
Your comments regarding violence are disgusting. Simply disgusting.
And as for the schools, yes the kids will be spread out wherever they have family members. Since these taxpaying families have been paying for the education of other people's kids all of these years what is the issue? Clearly you are happy taking their handouts, but now that they are educating their own kids it has suddenly become a problem.
Your advocating for the illegal invasion of this country by South America is disgusting ya LA RATZA JERKOFF!!! Go to H!!!! You and yours will get your just rewards when the time comes. It is building and fast!!!
Memo From Turner

Cortlandt Manor, NY

#10 Aug 22, 2014
Guess Who wrote:
<quoted text>
Your advocating for the illegal invasion of this country by South America is disgusting ya LA RATZA JERKOFF!!! Go to H!!!! You and yours will get your just rewards when the time comes. It is building and fast!!!
You don't really follow the news to closely do you Sterling? They are 100% in compliance with the law. It odes not matter if you like the law or not.

By the way, let me know if you ever see a post from me advocating for anybody to enter the country illegally. Pointing out BS is a whole other matter.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Level 10

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#11 Aug 22, 2014
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
Your comments regarding violence are disgusting. Simply disgusting.
And as for the schools, yes the kids will be spread out wherever they have family members. Since these taxpaying families have been paying for the education of other people's kids all of these years what is the issue? Clearly you are happy taking their handouts, but now that they are educating their own kids it has suddenly become a problem.
Handouts? Exactly what am I taking? Not all of these kids have family here...period Let's see some stats concerning this...you won't find any, because this government is not tracking these kids.. Violence exists in this country, and it is disgusting, but it's not of my doing. The break-down of the family is a big reason for the surge of violence.
Memo From Turner

Cortlandt Manor, NY

#12 Aug 22, 2014
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>
Handouts? Exactly what am I taking? Not all of these kids have family here...period Let's see some stats concerning this...you won't find any, because this government is not tracking these kids.. Violence exists in this country, and it is disgusting, but it's not of my doing. The break-down of the family is a big reason for the surge of violence.
"The government is not tracking these kids". Now you are just being silly. Are you seriously telling us the stories in the news for the past two months about kids being held in detention and processed through the courts never existed?

Handouts? You work in a school. The handouts would be the portion of your salary paid by the undocumented people who pay school taxes in your area, but have no kids in the school. I think the money should be used for education purposes and to pay the people who provide them, but you apparently feel differently about this. Perhaps you should just write a check to your employer and let them know you don't want this dirty money.

I will save you time on your next post. Of course all undocumented people pay the same property and school taxes as everybody else. They either pay it directly or through the landlords.
sandy1

Southold, NY

#13 Aug 22, 2014
teddyr4me wrote:
The decent thing to do would be to return these kids to their countries of origin. It is ridiculous to strong-arm Americans into being their “foster” parents. The excuse of fleeing violence holds no water…we have plenty of violence in our own country, and I don’t see our kids running into Canada, expecting her citizens to support them. What kinds of parents allow their kids to travel long distances alone facing the elements and murderous coyotes to achieve the end goal of milking Americans for hand-outs? This president’s actions have definitely exacerbated the illegal immigration problems we face. Not allowing ICE and our border agents to do the job they hired on to do is the collective act of inept and traitorous politicians.
Absolutely correct. An intelligence assessment concludes that misrepresentation about US immigration policy- and not central American violence(new statistics show crime in central America is actually down)are fueling the surge of thousands of parasites illegally crossing the border. According to the ten page 7/7/14 report issued by the EL Paso Intelligence Center(established in 1974 in response to a study by the Justice Management Division of the Justice Department),of the 230 leeches interviewed,219 cited the primary reason for them coming here illegally was the perception of the US immigration laws granting free passes(amnesty).

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Level 10

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#14 Aug 23, 2014
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
"The government is not tracking these kids". Now you are just being silly. Are you seriously telling us the stories in the news for the past two months about kids being held in detention and processed through the courts never existed?
Handouts? You work in a school. The handouts would be the portion of your salary paid by the undocumented people who pay school taxes in your area, but have no kids in the school. I think the money should be used for education purposes and to pay the people who provide them, but you apparently feel differently about this. Perhaps you should just write a check to your employer and let them know you don't want this dirty money.
I will save you time on your next post. Of course all undocumented people pay the same property and school taxes as everybody else. They either pay it directly or through the landlords.
Not exactly. People who live multiple families in a single family abode do not pay the same as one family living in a single family abode. I don't mind seeing my taxes going to fund local schools, even though my kids are grown, I do mind seeing my community's kids getting less because more moeny needs to be spent on another country's kids. As for tracking these kids, do you honestly think the government knows where all these kids are, let alone what their real names are? Really??? Now who is being silly? Schools are told they must enroll these kids, even though they have no documents at all...who the heck really knows who they are and where they are from?
Cordwainer Trout

Elizabethtown, KY

#15 Aug 23, 2014
How is Governor Moonbeam going to create jobs for the increasingly unemployed Blacks by funding illegal aliens? Leftist Democrats create racial disparity across this nation and then harp on an innocent police officer shooting a rampaging maniac as the reason... typical shell game politics by insane Marxists.
jeg

Vista, CA

#16 Aug 23, 2014
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't really follow the news to closely do you Sterling? They are 100% in compliance with the law. It odes not matter if you like the law or not.
By the way, let me know if you ever see a post from me advocating for anybody to enter the country illegally. Pointing out BS is a whole other matter.
Your correct in your statement that they are compliant within the law. The law made by lawmakers that are more interested in keeping themselves and their own in power than doing the right things in the right order at the right time for the right outcome. We can vote the smartest people into office but anymore its no use. We as voters think and vote emotionally.The smart that do the right thing find better things to do with their time. We behave as a society now that promotes dictatorial types into office. One day we'll have no where to flee. If you endorse South America style politics, you'll certainly get the results of them.
Memo From Turner

Cortlandt Manor, NY

#17 Aug 23, 2014
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>
Not exactly. People who live multiple families in a single family abode do not pay the same as one family living in a single family abode. I don't mind seeing my taxes going to fund local schools, even though my kids are grown, I do mind seeing my community's kids getting less because more moeny needs to be spent on another country's kids. As for tracking these kids, do you honestly think the government knows where all these kids are, let alone what their real names are? Really??? Now who is being silly? Schools are told they must enroll these kids, even though they have no documents at all...who the heck really knows who they are and where they are from?
So now we are shift from a conversation about people who pay school and property taxes but have no kids in school to the typical stereotypical nonsense about large households.

For a little historical perspective in the mid to late 1800's where do you think the most densely populated real estate in the world was located? Bombay? China? No. It was the lower east side of Manhattan. When the Irish and the rest of the Ellis Island crowd came they overcrowded apartments in a manner that would never be tolerated today. They did it because they had limited resources. Somehow they were all educated and life went on.

Granted there are inequities in the rates people pay as opposed to how many kids are in school, but these even out. I live in a area with very high property and school taxes. My next door neighbor has four kids in public school and I do not have any yet we pay the same taxes. Is that fair? Depends on how you look at it. The way I see it I am not paying for his kids. I am paying society back for the education I received. Just as the children of taxpaying parents will be paying for future generations of kids to go to school. Those multiple families that you claim are living together will all result in multiple families paying taxes in the future.

I do not understand what you keep saying about tracking the kids. Either they have been identified and processed and placed with their own family members or they are being held in federal detention.
Guess Who

Sterling, CO

#18 Aug 23, 2014
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
So now we are shift from a conversation about people who pay school and property taxes but have no kids in school to the typical stereotypical nonsense about large households.
For a little historical perspective in the mid to late 1800's where do you think the most densely populated real estate in the world was located? Bombay? China? No. It was the lower east side of Manhattan. When the Irish and the rest of the Ellis Island crowd came they overcrowded apartments in a manner that would never be tolerated today. They did it because they had limited resources. Somehow they were all educated and life went on.
Granted there are inequities in the rates people pay as opposed to how many kids are in school, but these even out. I live in a area with very high property and school taxes. My next door neighbor has four kids in public school and I do not have any yet we pay the same taxes. Is that fair? Depends on how you look at it. The way I see it I am not paying for his kids. I am paying society back for the education I received. Just as the children of taxpaying parents will be paying for future generations of kids to go to school. Those multiple families that you claim are living together will all result in multiple families paying taxes in the future.
I do not understand what you keep saying about tracking the kids. Either they have been identified and processed and placed with their own family members or they are being held in federal detention.
Who gives a crap? They do not belong here and we owe then not one fukin thing!!! We have taken more than our share. BY FAR!!! Send em to AFRICA!!! They will need some people there after Ebola!!! Some people have never seen an illegal beaner that they do not like!!! You are one of them. Azzwipe!!!! We needed immigrants when the Irish came. We damn sure do not need any more BEANERS!!!!
Memo From Turner

Cortlandt Manor, NY

#19 Aug 23, 2014
Guess Who wrote:
<quoted text>
Who gives a crap? They do not belong here and we owe then not one fukin thing!!! We have taken more than our share. BY FAR!!! Send em to AFRICA!!! They will need some people there after Ebola!!! Some people have never seen an illegal beaner that they do not like!!! You are one of them. Azzwipe!!!! We needed immigrants when the Irish came. We damn sure do not need any more BEANERS!!!!
Oh Sterling. So silly. So off topic.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Level 10

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#20 Aug 24, 2014
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
So now we are shift from a conversation about people who pay school and property taxes but have no kids in school to the typical stereotypical nonsense about large households.
For a little historical perspective in the mid to late 1800's where do you think the most densely populated real estate in the world was located? Bombay? China? No. It was the lower east side of Manhattan. When the Irish and the rest of the Ellis Island crowd came they overcrowded apartments in a manner that would never be tolerated today. They did it because they had limited resources. Somehow they were all educated and life went on.
Granted there are inequities in the rates people pay as opposed to how many kids are in school, but these even out. I live in a area with very high property and school taxes. My next door neighbor has four kids in public school and I do not have any yet we pay the same taxes. Is that fair? Depends on how you look at it. The way I see it I am not paying for his kids. I am paying society back for the education I received. Just as the children of taxpaying parents will be paying for future generations of kids to go to school. Those multiple families that you claim are living together will all result in multiple families paying taxes in the future.
I do not understand what you keep saying about tracking the kids. Either they have been identified and processed and placed with their own family members or they are being held in federal detention.
Don't you think that the rights of U.S. citizens have been violated by forcing them to finance the care of a good many of these children?. Why should the government assume that the taxpayers must willingly pick up the tab to house, educate and support these kids? If only this government would work as fervently for the unemployed citizens of this country, but BO prefers to golf and the rest of the do nothing fools think they deserve a vacation after having done little to nothing after fighting like kids on the playground during recess. I am sick of the entire issue.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker
First Prev
of 2
Next Last

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Immigration Reform Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News Sanders: Don't blame Islam for Orlando shooting 3 min Ismail 954
Rose's Pub (Mar '10) 47 min quetzalcoatl 141,598
News Trump Isn't Bluffing, He'll Deport 11 Million P... 55 min Memo From Turner 3,639
News Voters have trust issues with Hillary Clinton? ... (Jul '15) 1 hr Quirky 6,693
News Hundreds Demand that Arizona Governor Doug Duce... 1 hr So You Know 14
News African-Americans should start voting for Repub... 2 hr Tom Clancey. 323
News Criminal Aliens Are Being Released in US Becaus... 2 hr serfs up 11
More from around the web