DeMint destroys Heritage

DeMint destroys Heritage

There are 179 comments on the The Washington Post story from Oct 21, 2013, titled DeMint destroys Heritage. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

In addition to the damage done to the GOP by his penchant for right-wing antics, of which the shutdown fiasco was only the latest, Jim DeMint, the president of Heritage Foundation, has ushered in a new era in the once-proud conservative think tank's history.

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#115 Oct 23, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
<quoted text>"When fascism comes to America, it will be draped in a flag and carrying a cross."
You, bottlecrap, and all the teapublicans are the fascists. Every time they publicly pray or use Jesus's name or sing "Amazing Grace" during an open session of Congress, on the taxpayers dime (taxpayers, many of whom are not Christians), they are displaying their fascist tendencies.
This is a free country and freedom of religion is what keeps us from becoming a fascist nation. G'day.
You're gonna love this "Tea Party Jesus".... ;)
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/10/23/tea-p...
bottlecap

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#116 Oct 23, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
<quoted text>"When fascism comes to America, it will be draped in a flag and carrying a cross."
You, bottlecrap, and all the teapublicans are the fascists. Every time they publicly pray or use Jesus's name or sing "Amazing Grace" during an open session of Congress, on the taxpayers dime (taxpayers, many of whom are not Christians), they are displaying their fascist tendencies.
This is a free country and freedom of religion is what keeps us from becoming a fascist nation. G'day.
Funny, Mussolini was a flaming Christophobe like yourself, so if anything, fascism is an atheistic trait.

In any case, Fascism is a POLITICAL, GOVERNMENTAL doctrine and has nothing to do with religion.

Fascism DOES Exist in this country though and is typlified by CORPORATE Fascist MSM propaganda, Obamacare and Bailouts to Bankers. Of course, STANDING AGAINST Fascism is the Tea Party and the evidence that this is true was their opposition to the BAILOUTS and the attacks against them by the Corporate Fascist MSM.

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#117 Oct 23, 2013
inbred Genius wrote:
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google, or read the amazon excerpt of Buzz Patterson's book, Dereliction of duty. Buzz was
Not much for flunkies who write "tell all" books insisting they had all the information they needed, couple with the time machine that allow them to travel forward and backward into time.

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#118 Oct 23, 2013
Purple Independent wrote:
ON TOP OF ALL THAT, Osama Bin Laden -- who Clinton passed on -- perpetuated 9/11. Bush had no recourse but to go to war.
Bush had him at Tora Bora, and I guess you don't get papers delivered to your cave: the Bush war in Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with Bin Laden or terror, it was an effort for Bush to get a leg up in the 2004 election.
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#119 Oct 23, 2013
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You're right. They just keep laying off workers because it's fun.
Your comment reminds me of some ignorance on Hannity and a journalist who fact checked the ignorance and found this as one of the examples of ignorance:

"First I spoke with Paul Cox of Leicester, N.C. He and his wife Michelle had lamented to Hannity that because of Obamacare, they can’t grow their construction business and they have kept their employees below a certain number of hours, so that they are part-timers.

Obamacare has no effect on businesses with 49 employees or less. But in our brief conversation on the phone, Paul revealed that he has only four employees. Why the cutback on his workforce?“Well,” he said,“I haven’t been forced to do so, it’s just that I’ve chosen to do so. I have to deal with increased costs.” What costs? And how, I asked him, is any of it due to Obamacare? There was a long pause, after which he said he’d call me back. He never did."

http://www.salon.com/2013/10/18/inside_the_fo...

A business owner with so little knowledge of ACA is shocking but the interview was on Fux and with Hannity so it is not surprising.
bottlecap

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#123 Oct 23, 2013
Responsibility wrote:
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Your comment reminds me of some ignorance on Hannity and a journalist who fact checked the ignorance and found this as one of the examples of ignorance:
"First I spoke with Paul Cox of Leicester, N.C. He and his wife Michelle had lamented to Hannity that because of Obamacare, they can’t grow their construction business and they have kept their employees below a certain number of hours, so that they are part-timers.
Obamacare has no effect on businesses with 49 employees or less. But in our brief conversation on the phone, Paul revealed that he has only four employees. Why the cutback on his workforce?“Well,” he said,“I haven’t been forced to do so, it’s just that I’ve chosen to do so. I have to deal with increased costs.” What costs? And how, I asked him, is any of it due to Obamacare? There was a long pause, after which he said he’d call me back. He never did."
http://www.salon.com/2013/10/18/inside_the_fo...
A business owner with so little knowledge of ACA is shocking but the interview was on Fux and with Hannity so it is not surprising.
You actually make a good point here!!! We don't want any false anecdotes.

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#125 Oct 23, 2013
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Nobody knows what "Shug" means. I googled it and it came up blank.
Because you don't know, Shug, it doesn't mean others don't.

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#126 Oct 23, 2013
Purple Independent wrote:
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Tell me, does it make you feel good to call people names?
Tell me: why do you whine when people throw things back in your face the stuff you dis out?

It does make you look like a big P*.

Shug.

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#127 Oct 23, 2013
bottlecap wrote:
Fascism DOES Exist in this country though and is typlified by CORPORATE Fascist MSM propaganda
Ummm sure. Fascism is ultra right wingers except when they are ultra left wingers... and MSM is sending out subliminal messages because for all the power it has... according to you nutbags... no one really watches them.
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#128 Oct 23, 2013
bottlecap wrote:
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You actually make a good point here!!!
Here is another "good point" from Stern's article about the ignorance of those who rile and rant about ACA on Hannity and have not had the brains to check first:

"Next I called Allison Denijs. She’d told Hannity that she pays over $13,000 a year in premiums. Like the other guests, she said she had recently gotten a letter from Blue Cross saying that her policy was being terminated and a new, ACA-compliant policy would take its place. She says this shows that Obama lied when he promised Americans that we could keep our existing policies.

Allison’s husband left his job a few years ago, one with benefits at a big company, to start his own business. Since then they’ve been buying insurance on the open market, and are now paying around $1,100 a month for a policy with a $2,500 deductible per family member, with hefty annual premium hikes. One of their two children is not covered under the policy. She has a preexisting condition that would require purchasing additional coverage for $600 a month, which would bring the family’s grand total to around $20,000 a year.

I asked Allison if she’d shopped on the exchange, to see what a plan might cost under the new law. She said she hadn’t done so because she’d heard the website was not working. Would she try it out when it’s up and running? Perhaps, she said. She told me she has long opposed Obamacare, and that the president should have focused on tort reform as a solution to bringing down the price of healthcare.

I tried an experiment and shopped on the exchange for Allison and Kurt. Assuming they don’t smoke and have a household income too high to be eligible for subsidies, I found that they would be able to get a plan for around $7,600, which would include coverage for their uninsured daughter. This would be about a 60 percent reduction from what they would have to pay on the pre-Obamacare market.

Allison also told me that the letter she received from Blue Cross said that in addition to the policy change for ACA compliance, in the new policy her physician network size might be reduced. That’s something insurance companies do to save money, with or without Obamacare on the horizon, just as they raise premiums with or without Obamacare coming.

If Allison’s choice of doctor was denied her through Obamacare then, yes, she could have a claim that Obamacare has hurt her. But she’d also have thousands of dollars in her pocket that she didn’t have before.

http://www.salon.com/2013/10/18/inside_the_fo...
bottlecap

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#129 Oct 23, 2013
Responsibility wrote:
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Here is another "good point" from Stern's article about the ignorance of those who rile and rant about ACA on Hannity and have not had the brains to check first:
"Next I called Allison Denijs. She’d told Hannity that she pays over $13,000 a year in premiums. Like the other guests, she said she had recently gotten a letter from Blue Cross saying that her policy was being terminated and a new, ACA-compliant policy would take its place. She says this shows that Obama lied when he promised Americans that we could keep our existing policies.
Allison’s husband left his job a few years ago, one with benefits at a big company, to start his own business. Since then they’ve been buying insurance on the open market, and are now paying around $1,100 a month for a policy with a $2,500 deductible per family member, with hefty annual premium hikes. One of their two children is not covered under the policy. She has a preexisting condition that would require purchasing additional coverage for $600 a month, which would bring the family’s grand total to around $20,000 a year.
I asked Allison if she’d shopped on the exchange, to see what a plan might cost under the new law. She said she hadn’t done so because she’d heard the website was not working. Would she try it out when it’s up and running? Perhaps, she said. She told me she has long opposed Obamacare, and that the president should have focused on tort reform as a solution to bringing down the price of healthcare.
I tried an experiment and shopped on the exchange for Allison and Kurt. Assuming they don’t smoke and have a household income too high to be eligible for subsidies, I found that they would be able to get a plan for around $7,600, which would include coverage for their uninsured daughter. This would be about a 60 percent reduction from what they would have to pay on the pre-Obamacare market.
Allison also told me that the letter she received from Blue Cross said that in addition to the policy change for ACA compliance, in the new policy her physician network size might be reduced. That’s something insurance companies do to save money, with or without Obamacare on the horizon, just as they raise premiums with or without Obamacare coming.
If Allison’s choice of doctor was denied her through Obamacare then, yes, she could have a claim that Obamacare has hurt her. But she’d also have thousands of dollars in her pocket that she didn’t have before.
http://www.salon.com/2013/10/18/inside_the_fo...
That sounds very good and I don't dispute it not knowing the coverage ObamaCare provides.

But here is a CBS Story that says the prices quoted for insurance on the website does not line-up with the real cost.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505269_162-576088...

"But CBS News has learned the new "shop and browse" feature often comes with the wrong price tags."

"The numbers for older Americans are even more striking. A 62-year-old in Charlotte looking for the same basic plan would get a price estimate on the government website of $394. The actual price is $634."
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I'm in the wait and see mode now as data pours in.

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#130 Oct 23, 2013
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3) Clinton pushed for and signed the "PC Law,"
Right... PC law so you are just filling the forum up with cr@p, eh, troll?
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#131 Oct 23, 2013
Who cars about the heritage foundation? They have been funded by the kochsuckers and the coors family for years! They have never represented the interested of working productive Americans!
bottlecap

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#132 Oct 23, 2013
Sterkfontein Swartkrans wrote:
Who cars about the heritage foundation? They have been funded by the kochsuckers and the coors family for years! They have never represented the interested of working productive Americans!
The Heritage Foundation Foundation is a news and information source not controlled by the GLOBAL CORPORATE 1-World Government FASCISTS.

The People are entitled to UNBIAS information.
bottlecap

Orlando, FL

#133 Oct 23, 2013
This is why the CORPORATE FASCIST RICH hate the Heritage Foundation and other conservative news sources.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/inspector...

"In one instance, SIGAR found that IOM [International Organization for Migration] paid the contractor $300,000 for 600 gallons of diesel fuel—a cost of $500 per gallon. According to IOM officials, the market price in Afghanistan for diesel fuel should not exceed $5.00 per gallon. As a result, with a proper invoice, the fuel charge should not have exceeded $3,000."

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See how it works?

And it is not just Obama, but the Bushes and Clintons too. Does anybody think that the
"International Organization for Migration" is gonna be asked to pay for their mistake??:-)

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#134 Oct 23, 2013
bottlecap wrote:
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The Heritage Foundation Foundation is a news and information source not controlled by the GLOBAL CORPORATE 1-World Government FASCISTS.
It's control by right wing FASCISTS and fanatics (Koch Brothers, Joesph Coors, South Korea) that now real conservatives are no longer listening to them- even saying their actions were "destroying the Republican party", and the Heritage Foundation is now even turning on Republicans, spending more on ads against specific Republicans then Democrats.

Bless them :)

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#135 Oct 23, 2013
bottlecap wrote:
This is why the CORPORATE FASCIST RICH hate the Heritage Foundation
KOCH Brothers are among the wealthiest people on the planet- top 25 in the world, I believe. Top[ ten in the US.

Founded by Joesph Coors... billionaire...

So rich people hate the Heritage Foundation, eh?
bottlecap

Orlando, FL

#136 Oct 23, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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KOCH Brothers are among the wealthiest people on the planet- top 25 in the world, I believe. Top[ ten in the US.
Founded by Joesph Coors... billionaire...
So rich people hate the Heritage Foundation, eh?
The issue with me about billionaires is not they are RICH.

My question is twofold:

1) did they make their money following the law?

2) did they make their money thru Government Corruption and Graft?

To me, the BAILOUTS are pure theft----textbook Fascism, combining Corporate and Government Power.

If the KOCH Brothers got BAILOUT money my thinking about them would change.

The FASCIST Rich do not like the Heritage Foundation.
bottlecap

Orlando, FL

#137 Oct 23, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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It's control by right wing FASCISTS and fanatics (Koch Brothers, Joesph Coors, South Korea) that now real conservatives are no longer listening to them- even saying their actions were "destroying the Republican party", and the Heritage Foundation is now even turning on Republicans, spending more on ads against specific Republicans then Democrats.
Bless them :)
First, Obama, the Bushes and the Clintons are the Fascists, based on their policies.

Also, why is their so much opposition to free speech from democrats when they have pro-lib propaganda outlets like ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, most Newspapers, Reporter Pools, Hollywood and Academeia. I guess they are AFRAID of a little TRUTH.

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#138 Oct 23, 2013
bottlecap wrote:
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First, Obama, the Bushes and the Clintons are the Fascists, based on their policies.
Of course they are, dear...

E-I-E-I-O.

And on your farm you had some fascists...
E-I-E-I-O.

With a fascists, here,
And a fascists there,
Here a fascists, there a fascist,
Everywhere fascists,

Old Bottlecap had a farm,
E-I-E-I-O.

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