Hispanics and latins are from Europe....

Hispanics and latins are from Europe. Mexicans and south Americans are not.

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Mmmmm Dounuts

United States

#1 Jun 12, 2008
Hi Iam a spanish born from spain. My American friends on topix, Mexicans are mix but never be hispanic nor latino. Iam from a background that is called Hispano and Latino. Mexicans might have some blood line of Hispanic but they are not Latins nor Hispanics. thats an insult to us Spainards and to the Mexican people of Mexico.

Most of Spanish people in Spain don't think of Mexicans and South Americans to be Hispanics and Latinos. They call them as indios as indians of the Americas. The Mexican people are Indigenous to the land that you call America as a continent. They might be mix but they are nothing like me or any other spanish people from spain.

We are white and they are brown. We are Europeans and they are not. People from Estados Unidos stop defining Mexicans like they are spanish people because they are not spanish people. Iam Spanish and it is insulting to call Mexicans and South Americans as what i am as spanish Hispano and latino.
Battlecat

Haymarket, VA

#2 Jun 12, 2008
Well, if it makes you feel any better, I don't call Mexicans any of those things. How do you feel about cockroaches? Is that OK?
Etc

Springfield, OH

#3 Jun 12, 2008
They call themselves that. I certainly didn't name them.

Latin America is everything south of the border.

Latin music is derived from there.

They talk about latin culture and latin foods. Google "latin" - you'll see what I mean.

They have claimed the name latino for themselves.

You're right though, that people from Spain & people from Mexico are NOTHING alike.
nocto

Duarte, CA

#4 Jun 30, 2008
I am assuming you don't know the concept of "criollo", because I guess you are new to this country, you don't know the language very well, or simply because you are an ignorant. "Criollos" are the Spaniards who remained in America after the defeat of the Spanish army in the Battle of Ayacucho (Peru). Your poor level of education makes me wonder if you are really an Espanol or not. The idea of ethnicity and race are closed related, as in the US people call Hispanic to all the Spanish descendant, white or dark skin; in other words, you are nothing more than another brown crayon in a box. Do I make myself clear?
JC Shaw

Frederick, MD

#5 Jul 19, 2008
I agree, this shows the extreme ignorance you live in. Thaks God we do not look or are like you. Our pre-colombinas civilizations did not robe, kill,or use lies to take advantage of the very rich and inocent which was the case of the indigenas. I am prodly brown mexican, with Spanish direct discendance on both sides of my family. I descend from very intelligent and unique people in the americas which have nothing to do with you; and FYI no indians were found here, you IGNORANT people thought they reached India, not America. So, before you post a comment like this one, get your facts together FIRST. Thank God for the indigenas, I still carry their blood, and for your very bad luck many like myself still carry your dirthy, criminal, and nasty blood along with our Indigena. I am spanish and we all are LATINOS and HISPANICS with or withour your permission.(we all are from habla hispana) IGNORANT!!!!
yankees1

Hialeah, FL

#6 Jul 25, 2008
The lasting legacy of the Spaniard is A of racial hatred and B of a profound failure to organize. Spain, even in Europe is not considered a power and has not been so for over 350 years. When you compare the English level of success in it's colonial past and Spain's, the truth is clear. Whereas England's colonies are all successful and upright i:e U.S.A. Canada, Australia and lately even India we see Spain in South and Central America as dismal failures with respect to their inablity to organize and thrive. The Spaniards feeling of superiority is vastly unfounded.
PSL

Boca Raton, FL

#7 Jul 25, 2008
Our pre-colombinas civilizations did not robe, kill,or use lies to take advantage of the very rich and inocent which was the case of the indigenas.
__________
Just grabbed people off the streets and cut their hearts our.
Antony

Algonquin, IL

#8 Jul 25, 2008
Mmmmm Dounuts wrote:
Hi Iam a spanish born from spain. My American friends on topix, Mexicans are mix but never be hispanic nor latino. Iam from a background that is called Hispano and Latino. Mexicans might have some blood line of Hispanic but they are not Latins nor Hispanics. thats an insult to us Spainards and to the Mexican people of Mexico.
Most of Spanish people in Spain don't think of Mexicans and South Americans to be Hispanics and Latinos. They call them as indios as indians of the Americas. The Mexican people are Indigenous to the land that you call America as a continent. They might be mix but they are nothing like me or any other spanish people from spain.
We are white and they are brown. We are Europeans and they are not. People from Estados Unidos stop defining Mexicans like they are spanish people because they are not spanish people. Iam Spanish and it is insulting to call Mexicans and South Americans as what i am as spanish Hispano and latino.
Just to expand and clarify on this theme.

Many Mexicans are a mixture of both Spanish and Native American genealogy. Of course some look more Native than others but it depends on what genes dominate. At the same time some families managed to not mix too much and retained their ancestral traits.

An example: the child of Hernan Cortes [Spanish Conquistador] and Dona Marina [Native translator], their 1st child was one of the first Mexicans if not the first. In this case the child would be half Spanish + half Native... like Barack Obama half Kenyan + half White/American.

Furthermore nobody spoke Spanish (in the lands of what are now called Mexico) until the Spanish Conquistadors came in the late 14th - 16th centuries.
Antony

Algonquin, IL

#9 Jul 25, 2008
Another example:

While Senator Obama is African-American.
the Senators father is just African.

I'd assume that "Mmmmm Dounuts" is just Spanish/Latin not Latin American or Hispanic American.
Antony

Algonquin, IL

#10 Jul 25, 2008
In summary, Mexicans and other Latin Americans could very well be of European decent!

Although if they somehow managed not to mix with Europeans, then of course they would be purely Native to their lands.[Maybe]
Antony

Algonquin, IL

#11 Jul 25, 2008
I meant to write "descent" I hope I did not offend?

“Praise the Lord& Pass the ammo”

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#12 Jul 25, 2008
Antony wrote:
In summary, Mexicans and other Latin Americans could very well be of European decent!
I still don't want those cockroaches sneaking in.
SpanishDescendan tWhite

United States

#13 Jul 25, 2008
33% of Latin America is white. 1/4 of the Europeans went to Latin America instead of North America. For instance, not all Europeans were allowed in the USA b/c of restriction quotas. Most Europeans that went to Latin America were Italians, Spanish, and others from all over. It's interesting 'cause in Argentina some Welsh descendants can still speak Celtic dialect. Ppl don't know about this in the US.

Europeans that settled down in SA:
http://thehispanicmyth.com/Melting_pot_myth.h...
Antony

Algonquin, IL

#14 Jul 25, 2008
SpanishDescendantWhite wrote:
33% of Latin America is white. 1/4 of the Europeans went to Latin America instead of North America. For instance, not all Europeans were allowed in the USA b/c of restriction quotas. Most Europeans that went to Latin America were Italians, Spanish, and others from all over. It's interesting 'cause in Argentina some Welsh descendants can still speak Celtic dialect. Ppl don't know about this in the US.
Europeans that settled down in SA:
http://thehispanicmyth.com/Melting_pot_myth.h...
Very interesting, thank you.
Spain

Vitoria-gasteiz, Spain

#15 Jul 28, 2008
jc shaw calls the guy up there "ignorant" and he says hes "spanish" u may have some Spanish blood but sorry to break it to you u are not Spanish you are Spanish only when you are born in Spain (and are 100% spanish).African americans/they speak english n no one calls them british) have english blood and they dont say they are english so please educate yourself n dont be so tacky.One thing is clear the dummy americans have achieved to give the Spanish nationality a negative connotation calling mexicans "spanish" when we all know that the average mexican is basically a native american.But its ok the Spanish are admired and we are back up there and people all over the world love our language n country so no matter how much u slander us we are too cool n charismatic to put people against us.

"mestizo" is a cultural tag.
Spain

Vitoria-gasteiz, Spain

#16 Jul 28, 2008
what about africa yankees1?why dont u mention the ex british colonies in africa? oh wait....usa,australia canada are the 1st world cuz most people there are white while in southamerican countries most are indians.
SpanishDescendan tWhite

United States

#17 Jul 29, 2008
Spain wrote:
what about africa yankees1?why dont u mention the ex british colonies in africa? oh wait....usa,australia canada are the 1st world cuz most people there are white while in southamerican countries most are indians.
Being a Spanish decendant I love Spain and its people. I also love Italians, Portuguese, Greeks. However, one has to admit that Spain started doing well after it joined the European Union. Before that it was always poor and like Latin American countries, Spain had a dictator to harm his own country.

Not sure how somebody from Spain ended up in these forums. Anyway, it's true that most British colony ended up first world countries. USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and even South Africa did well all things considered. Then, India, Jamaica, and whatever else remained third world. However, some former Spanish colonies had and still have today white majorities. For instance, Argentina and Uruguay are former Spanish colonies with white majority population and they're OK if you ask me; not third world but not first world either.

What about former French colonies like Haity and African countries? All third world.
truth really hurts

Norcross, GA

#18 Jul 29, 2008
SpanishDescendantWhite wrote:
33% of Latin America is white. 1/4 of the Europeans went to Latin America instead of North America. For instance, not all Europeans were allowed in the USA b/c of restriction quotas. Most Europeans that went to Latin America were Italians, Spanish, and others from all over. It's interesting 'cause in Argentina some Welsh descendants can still speak Celtic dialect. Ppl don't know about this in the US.
Europeans that settled down in SA:
http://thehispanicmyth.com/Melting_pot_myth.h...
Not to mention all of the NAZIs that relocated via the Vatican to South America in order to escape war crime tribunals.
truth really hurts

Norcross, GA

#19 Jul 29, 2008
PSL wrote:
Our pre-colombinas civilizations did not robe, kill,or use lies to take advantage of the very rich and inocent which was the case of the indigenas.
__________
Just grabbed people off the streets and cut their hearts our.
Yeah, right. What about all of the Nazi war criminals that were given passage to South America after years of feeding the emaciated bodies of European Jews to the dogs? Trash.
SpanishDescendan t

United States

#20 Jul 29, 2008
truth really hurts wrote:
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Not to mention all of the NAZIs that relocated via the Vatican to South America in order to escape war crime tribunals.
There was a documentary I saw in history channel about brainwashed people throughout many countries. One was a German camp in Chile. People were born and raised there speaking German and without leaving the camp. I don't recall why they were raised brainwashed, probably for sex purposes, but that's another negative example since you apparently like talking about it.

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