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ABC, CBS, NBC Skip Conservative Victories in Australia and Norway --...

There are 11 comments on the NewsBusters.org story from Sep 13, 2013, titled ABC, CBS, NBC Skip Conservative Victories in Australia and Norway --.... In it, NewsBusters.org reports that:

John Fund at National Review has written about three recent elections that show "Liberals In Retreat," but only one is domestic: the Colorado gun-rights recall.

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Since: Dec 10

Adelaide, Australia

#1 Sep 13, 2013
They should be on the offensive especially on gun control....but only if your aim is a better and safer US.

Since: Dec 10

Adelaide, Australia

#3 Sep 13, 2013
good work wrote:
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Get a job you fat slug or do the world a favor and die.
Don't critisise me! you sit there all day making millions of posts under a constantly changing name ye' moron...ROTFLMFAO.
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#6 Sep 13, 2013
good work wrote:
<quoted text>
Get a job you fat slug or do the world a favor and die.
Obviously you are one of the few remaining Republican voter. Must be lonely after the 'Conservatives in retreat' in 2012. I can also tell because of your tactics of debate which is merely to insult the poster and also the intelligence of the reader.

Note: On gun violence, the stats are that you are nine times more likely to be killed by a gun in your possession than one in a criminals.

Another interesting factoid is that Australiaa, while going 'conservative' is very unlikely to change it's restrictive gun laws. They ALSO had big school massacres but they put in gun control as a way to control it and lo and behold they have not had a similar school shooting since. Moreover, gun crime, gun suicide, murder, etc have ALL gone down by a major amount.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldview...

But the Colorado voter has a right to make any decision they want, even in the face of facts. Wonder how much the guns are helping the flood victims.. any rescue teams shot yet? Fleeing civilians drown because of all the old iron he needed to carry? The US is a long term laugh riot. If they could only see how fanatical and strange they seem to the rest of the world.
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#9 Sep 13, 2013
good work wrote:
<quoted text>When did Australia have big school massacres like the US ?
Before they brought in gun regulation.

1996 to be specific. New South Wales. 35 deaths.

The result was a dramatic and fairly rapid drop in gun violence.

Ask them today and you will find few in favor or a US style 'gun rights' lobby. They prefer to feel safe to walk about and while they don't have many guns, the mentally ill, the disgruntled, the outcast, the criminal and the wacko's have even fewer since they cannot pass the 'background checks' and are unable to find 'rogue shops' to sell them unlicensed arms.
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#11 Sep 13, 2013
good work wrote:
<quoted text>Australia had liberal gun laws from 1788 all the way to the 1970s without a single massacre too! How do you account for that ?
Do I need to? The modern world (and the number of guns in it) is what is at issue. Maybe in 1786 the guns were too awkward with all the flint and powder. And reloading would certainlyy have kept the body count down. In fact, back then, guns would be a relatively rare item just on cost alone. But this is a meaningless digression and not relevant ( I assume that was your intention).

http://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/12/6/...
"Results: In the 18 years before the gun law reforms, there were 13 mass shootings in Australia, and none in the 10.5 years afterwards. Declines in firearm-related deaths before the law reforms accelerated after the reforms for total firearm deaths (p&#8202;=&#8202;0.04) , firearm suicides (p&#8202;=&#8202;0.007 ) and firearm homicides (p&#8202;=&#8202;0.15) , but not for the smallest category of unintentional firearm deaths, which increased. No evidence of substitution effect for suicides or homicides was observed. The rates per 100 000 of total firearm deaths, firearm homicides and firearm suicides all at least doubled their existing rates of decline after the revised gun laws. "
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#14 Sep 13, 2013
Note also that Australia has MORE guns now than before controls and the 'buyback'. They are just in the hands of RESPONSIBLE citizens and out of the hands of the wackos and criminals. The opposite of the US where no background checks are ALLOWED by law.
NTA

Ottawa, Canada

#15 Sep 13, 2013
They tried to bring in gun registrations here in Canada and it was a complete failure. Its a failure wherever they try and implement it. We abolished it. Good riddance.
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#16 Sep 13, 2013
good work wrote:
<quoted text>And you don't even live in Australia so what would you know. Shooting is a popular sport in Australia and gun clubs are at all time high membership levels.
Hey. Most AUSTRALIANS have no 'personal experience' with gun massacres so what do YOU know? At least I do RESEARCH on the topic. The majority of the facts are available to all on this thing called the 'internet'. You should learn to use it.
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#17 Sep 13, 2013
NTA wrote:
They tried to bring in gun registrations here in Canada and it was a complete failure. Its a failure wherever they try and implement it. We abolished it. Good riddance.
It was hardly a 'failure' but certainly the 'long gun registry' was shut down as a personal issue by Dear Leader Harper. It ran into strong opposition from the hunting and right wingers in an alliance. The opposition was the issue, not the registry. That is a political thing.

But that is a side issue. Canada certainly would be considered a 'gun control' country compared to the US. In fact, most of our weapons problems COME from the US over the border. I know of one 'youth gang' in Toronto that has gone on a murder spree just because they robbed the home of a 'gun collector' and got a big haul. They commit more murders in one week than most gangs do in a year.

But Canadian gun registration is stricter than the US and we have about one eighth of the gun violence. Another example.
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#18 Sep 13, 2013
good work wrote:
<quoted text>Shooting is a popular sport in Australia and gun clubs are at all time high membership levels.
Oh, and you must have difficulty reading. I said they had GUN CONTROL, not a ban on weapons. As I stated, they have more guns per capita NOW than before the regulation. The regulation only restricts criminals and the insane from weapons and ensures proper guidelines for storage. You might have a problem of course..
NTA

Ottawa, Canada

#19 Sep 13, 2013
Why is my post voted nuts? I challenge anyone to prove anything in my post wrong. Its a FACT that we have abandoned registering long-arms.

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