Gay Married Man Gets Green Card

Gay Married Man Gets Green Card

There are 734 comments on the EDGE story from Jul 3, 2013, titled Gay Married Man Gets Green Card. In it, EDGE reports that:

Late Friday, just two days after the US Supreme Court released their decision gutting the Defense of Marriage Act, a permanent visa, aka green card, was issued to Traian Popov, a Bulgarian man married to Florida-based club DJ Julian Marsh.

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#476 Jul 26, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
Nope, it is your logic that suggested it. If businesses are allowed to deny access to services and products simply out of their own fears, then you are opening a can of worms that would lead to not only a lot more homeless and needy people, but also businesses finding reasons to justify denying anyone access for any reason. Imagine if all the grocers said "no more people with brown hair, because brown hair is against our religion."
This issue is about same sex marriage, she refused to support that and KK want to force her to violate her beliefs.

If NOM sues a florist for refusing to service their convention, would you support that because they discriminated against an organization with opposing political beliefs?
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#477 Jul 26, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Not based on race or even sexual preference; she politically opposes same sex marriage just like the rest of us.
Reason 33 for keeping marriage one man and one woman; litigation. You might be sued next if same sex marriages are licensed in your state.
You can't be serious?

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#478 Jul 26, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Not based on race or even sexual preference; she politically opposes same sex marriage just like the rest of us.
Reason 33 for keeping marriage one man and one woman; litigation. You might be sued next if same sex marriages are licensed in your state.
Sorry, but it's DISCRIMINATION unless she ceases doing flower arrangements for ANY couples getting married!!!

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#479 Jul 26, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Not based on race or even sexual preference; she politically opposes same sex marriage just like the rest of us.
Reason 33 for keeping marriage one man and one woman; litigation. You might be sued next if same sex marriages are licensed in your state.
That is discrimination. She discriminated.

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#480 Jul 26, 2013
Oh, and Brian, I am in Washington, I offered support for approving same sex marriage here.

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#481 Jul 26, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Nope, it is your logic that suggested it. If businesses are allowed to deny access to services and products simply out of their own fears, then you are opening a can of worms that would lead to not only a lot more homeless and needy people, but also businesses finding reasons to justify denying anyone access for any reason. Imagine if all the grocers said "no more people with brown hair, because brown hair is against our religion."
Every time I read one of Brian's posts I think about those AllState insurance commercials where the guy is going on and on about what terrible drivers women are. Yet it's the woman who gets the safe driver refund check and not the guy.

I also love hearing a divorced guy go on and about his Gender segregated marriages theory!

How is a gay man or lesbian parent any different than Brain in this respect? They aren't of course!

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#482 Jul 26, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>This issue is about same sex marriage, she refused to support that and KK want to force her to violate her beliefs.
If NOM sues a florist for refusing to service their convention, would you support that because they discriminated against an organization with opposing political beliefs?
Hey Brian. Explain your gender segregated marriage. You're a divorced guy aren't you?

Didn't your own marriage end up a gender segregated marriage?

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#483 Jul 26, 2013
Broseph wrote:
You can't be serious?
Why not? You aren't seriously concerned with this rash of suing and prosecuting conservatives? The IRS leaking NOM's 2008 tax forms, harassing Tea Party groups and Obmacare getting your medical records into the hands of the government is meaningless scandal?

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#484 Jul 26, 2013
DNF wrote:
Hey Brian. Explain your gender segregated marriage. You're a divorced guy aren't you? Didn't your own marriage end up a gender segregated marriage?
Why does DNF repeat this defamation about divorce? Doesn't truth hold any appeal, I've been married 25 years, never divorced. Why would you trust somebody who lies about political opponents?

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#485 Jul 26, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Why not? You aren't seriously concerned with this rash of suing and prosecuting conservatives? The IRS leaking NOM's 2008 tax forms, harassing Tea Party groups and Obmacare getting your medical records into the hands of the government is meaningless scandal?
Those tax forms are part of the Public Record DOOFUS.

It's a tax exempt org and therefore their taxes are public record.

Unless of course it's a court asking for the files. Then they refuse.

So spare us your whining about NOM and it's tactics.

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#486 Jul 26, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Why does DNF repeat this defamation about divorce? Doesn't truth hold any appeal, I've been married 25 years, never divorced. Why would you trust somebody who lies about political opponents?
Then I apologize. I thought you were divorced.

But that still leaves you to explain why divorce is somehow good for your one man one woman marriage crusade.

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#487 Jul 26, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Why does DNF repeat this defamation about divorce? Doesn't truth hold any appeal, I've been married 25 years, never divorced. Why would you trust somebody who lies about political opponents?
Why did you wait a week from the time I first posted my mistake? Doesn't truth hold any appeal for you?

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#488 Jul 26, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Not based on race or even sexual preference; she politically opposes same sex marriage just like the rest of us.
Reason 33 for keeping marriage one man and one woman; litigation. You might be sued next if same sex marriages are licensed in your state.
Doesn't truth hold any appeal? Show us where these things you claim happen took place. But you can't. There have been no cases of someone being sued over SSM in States where SSM is legal except when the person discriminates and violates state laws.

Like the clerk you defend in CA.

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#489 Jul 26, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Why does DNF repeat this defamation about divorce? Doesn't truth hold any appeal, I've been married 25 years, never divorced. Why would you trust somebody who lies about political opponents?
This is rich. You lie and then complain about people lying.

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#490 Jul 26, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>This issue is about same sex marriage, she refused to support that and KK want to force her to violate her beliefs.
If NOM sues a florist for refusing to service their convention, would you support that because they discriminated against an organization with opposing political beliefs?
No she is free to practice her beliefs. She just can't use her religious bigotry to justify religious discrimination.

And back to lying. The florist you refer to was NOT sued.

She was charged with criminal actions by the State of Washington for violating the States laws regarding religious discrimination.

I'd love for NOM to try to sue someone for not doing business with them. And I'll be right there in Court with the SCOTUS ruling that gave the BSA the right to choose who they associate with.
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#491 Jul 26, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Why not? You aren't seriously concerned with this rash of suing and prosecuting conservatives? The IRS leaking NOM's 2008 tax forms, harassing Tea Party groups and Obmacare getting your medical records into the hands of the government is meaningless scandal?
Does NOM actually have proof, or are they running their mouths again? Who is harassing Tea Party groups and why? Also, what does any of this have to do with gays getting married?

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#492 Jul 26, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Why does DNF repeat this defamation about divorce? Doesn't truth hold any appeal, I've been married 25 years, never divorced. Why would you trust somebody who lies about political opponents?
Why should we trust you after you've been replying to almost every post but took a week to point out my mistake?

Guess "truth" only matters to you when you can hide it.

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#493 Jul 26, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Not based on race or even sexual preference; she politically opposes same sex marriage just like the rest of us.
Reason 33 for keeping marriage one man and one woman; litigation. You might be sued next if same sex marriages are licensed in your state.
Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality or people who are identified or perceived as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT). It can be expressed as antipathy, contempt, prejudice, aversion, or hatred, may be based on irrational fear, and is sometimes related to religious beliefs.

Recognized types of homophobia include institutionalized homophobia, e.g. religious homophobia and state-sponsored homophobia, and internalized homophobia, experienced by people who have same-sex attractions, regardless of how they identify. Forms of homophobia toward identifiable LGBT social groups have similar yet specific names: lesbophobia – the intersection of homophobia and sexism directed against lesbians, biphobia – towards bisexuality and bisexual people, and transphobia, which targets transsexualism, transsexual and transgender people, and gender variance or gender role nonconformity.

Coined by George Weinberg, a psychologist, in the 1960s, the term homophobia is a blend of the word homosexual, itself a mix of neo-classical morphemes, and phobia from the Greek ;, Phóbos, meaning "fear" or "morbid fear". Weinberg is credited as the first person to have used the term in speech. The word homophobia first appeared in print in an article written for the May 23, 1969, edition of the American tabloid Screw, in which the word was used to refer to heterosexual men's fear that others might think they are gay.

George Weinberg is a Manhattan psychotherapist with a doctorate in Clinical Psychology from Columbia University, a Masters Degree in English from New York University, and advanced training in mathematical statistics. He has written twelve books and is published in twenty-three languages. He has also written for popular and professional journals, and for television.

Weinberg is known for several major contributions to psychotherapy. He coined the word “homophobia”(in his revolutionary 1972 book, Society and the Healthy Homosexual) to propose that those who harbor prejudice against homosexuals, and not homosexuals themselves, are suffering from a psychological malady, an irrational state of mind. Weinberg, though heterosexual himself, became a leader in the ultimately successful struggle to have homosexuality removed as a diagnostic category from the DSM, the professional therapeutic handbook. He has been instrumental in shifting public perception of homosexuality.

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#494 Jul 27, 2013
DNF wrote:
Then I apologize. I thought you were divorced.
If you stop repeating that defamation, I'll accept your apology.

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DNF wrote:
But that still leaves you to explain why divorce is somehow good for your one man one woman marriage crusade.
Do you want to argue same sex marriage would affect divorce? How else would divorce matter?

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#495 Jul 27, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Do you want to argue same sex marriage would affect divorce? How else would divorce matter?
Divorce doesn't matter to the sanctity of heterosexual marriage? You'd better inform the Vatican as I think they missed the memo.

And by the way, that statement alone does more to undermine your credibility for your crusade to protect heterosexual marriage than anything anyone else has posted so far.

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