View: Immigration Reform Isn't Dead Yet

View: Immigration Reform Isn't Dead Yet

There are 9 comments on the Bloomberg story from Oct 28, 2013, titled View: Immigration Reform Isn't Dead Yet. In it, Bloomberg reports that:

What are the prospects that the U.S. House of Representatives will pass useful immigration legislation? Republican Representative Tom Cole , a close ally to the House leadership, expressed a kind of cautious pessimism last week.

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#1 Oct 29, 2013
no amnesty has been approved for the last 15+ years.

what does it take to make these people on capitol hill realize that the american people do not want another amnesty?

chaos in the streets? a civil war?

what happens if the citizens stop paying their taxes in protest? oh. you say obama will enforce the law and arrest them?

so, obama will arrest citizens, but he won't arrest illegals?

yeah. let's see how far he gets.

my prediction.. if he arrests even one person for not paying their taxes like with obamacare, there will be so much protest, he and his support (democrats) will have to crawl into some hole for at least 3 generations.

when the debates begin, and it is pointed out that we have over 50+ milion illegals in our borders because obama was not willing to enforce the laws.. just imagine the outrage when ONE citizen decides not to pay into obamacare.

lol.
Antony

United States

#4 Oct 29, 2013
EDUCATE YOURSELF. GET THE TRUE FACTS NOT POLITICAL SPIN & LIES.

GOP=GRUMPY OLD PEOPLE

GOP=GRUMPY OLD PUTZSE'S

GOP= GRAND OBSTRUCTION PARTY.:):)

By 2016 another 5 to 10.000.000 republican senior voters will pass away. And by 2020 another 10 to 20.000.000 million will pass away , so will the GOP= GRUMPY OLD PEOPLE .
There are 50,000 Latinos coming of age to vote every month= over 3.000.000 THREE MILLION NEW VOTERS for 2016 AND ANOTHER 5.000.000 VOTERS IN 2020.THEY ALL ARE CERTAINLY GOING TO VOTE REPUBLICANS :) HA HA HA THANKS FOR THE LAUGH :):):)

The REPUBLICANS ARE A DO NOTHING PARTY. HERE ARE THE FACTS ON IMMIGRATION REFORM.

For all the tough talk about immigration reform, the House has done NOTHING on border security and the Senate has.

Likewise, they’ve done NOTHING to solve the visa overstay issue, workplace verification or the H-1B visa problem. It is well and good to vaguely declare the Gang of Eight bill insufficient, but certainly it does more for border security and these other issues than House Republicans have managed to do (which is NOTHING).

The argument that the House can do NOTHING runs headlong into anti-immigration forces hype about the out-of-control border and the supposed economic burdens of illegal immigration. If it’s such a horrible problem — immigrants pouring over the border and all — why is the REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED HOUSE JUST SITTING THERE?????

Another Year of OPEN BORDERS
Another Year of BORDER CROSSINGS,
Another Year of WORK SITE VERIFICATIONS,
Another Year of VISA OVER STAYS,

Thanks Republicans the Undocumented are Happy that you'll ar doing NOTHING :) Just PANDERING TO YOUR BASE.

In poll after poll, roughly three-quarters of Americans say they support a path to citizenship along the lines laid out in the Senate bill, which calls for a minimum wait of 13 years for most illegal immigrants. In a Gallup poll last month, for example, 87 percent said they would vote in favor of a bill that "would allow illegal immigrants living in the U.S. the opportunity to become citizens after a long waiting period if they paid taxes and a penalty, pass a criminal background check, and learn English."

Twelve percent said they would oppose such a measure. That is the 12 percent to whom House Republicans are listening. And 12 percent is a long, long way from 51 percent.

By rejecting immigration, the Republicans in the House are sending a message that they're not interested in being part of the solution. "If you only have to worry about your right flank -- you don't have to worry about a general election, don't have to worry about governing -- that's a pretty easy gig, isn't it? What the hell is the point?"

Paul Ryan The Budget Committee chairman, whose next job may be head of the tax-writing Ways and Means Committee, makes his case based on numbers.

‘‘Baby boomers are retiring to the tune of 10,000 people a day for the next 10 years,’’ Ryan said.‘‘We’re going to have labor shortages in this country in the next decade. We need to have our immigration system prepared for that. It’s going to take time to do that and that’s why I think we need to do it now.’’

If immigration reform crashes, there will be one and only one reason: a failure of leadership by House Republicans.
The votes to enact meaningful reform already exist. The only question is whether House Republicans will allow them to be cast.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#5 Oct 29, 2013
We all know that the Republicans are almost as bad on immigration as the Democrats. At the end of the day both parties are bought and paid for by the same 1% of this country. These are the people who will truly gain from amnesty, reduced wages and increased demand for services both public and private.
Dequin

Halle, Germany

#6 Oct 29, 2013
Not paying into Obamacare is very much the same as
"failing to leave the country" is to an immigrant.
The only penalty aught to be that of not being in the system:
You see: You cannot force people to get Obamacare,
just like you shouldn´t force people to leave the country.You have to pay income tax, so the government would simply not give you the return, assign an insurance mode to you, and slap whaqtever isw extant onto the next tax bill. Don`t like it? T.S..
So, this ´d be one of the drawbacks of being an American citizen.
If you don´t like it, and you want to be a free person- then you have to let the illegal immigrants also do as they chose.
All this artificial pressure exerted by blocking things- is ludicrous: Go ahead and block everything,and the reuptation of thre U.S., as well as it´s trade relations are going to suffer for
sure. They´re being very restrictive Europe as well, but I don´t see how they can keep this up in
the E.U. either: sooner or later, all systems need to become more liberal, because all this not being
liberal hurts the economy.
Immigrants anyways do jobs no American wants to do.
As far as mitt Romney is concerned: When he was talking about self-deportation, he was actually
self-aborting his bet for the presidency.
Conspiracy

Solon, OH

#7 Oct 29, 2013
Antony wrote:
EDUCATE YOURSELF. GET THE TRUE FACTS NOT POLITICAL SPIN & LIES.
GOP=GRUMPY OLD PEOPLE
GOP=GRUMPY OLD PUTZSE'S
GOP= GRAND OBSTRUCTION PARTY.:):)
Edumacate yoself. Clown barry says its time for immigration reform again in order to take heat off the unaffordablecare friggin train wreck debacle and the useless idiot leftists come out of the woodwork as ordered to offer up the same old crap calling for amnesty. The biased DSCMP (Democratic socialist communist marxist party) polls are offered up to begin with. The ones that begin with 'we can't deport 12 million illegal aliens so what do we do with them' polls. Enforcing existing immigration laws and making it extremely hard for illegal aliens to live and work in the US is never given as an option. If there were only 12 million illegal aliens in this country then an aggressive deportation campaign would produce satisfactory results but everyone knows that there is no doubt at least 20-30 million illegals here in the US. Everyone should also realize that the main problems with 12 million illegal aliens running wild in the US is the "baggage" they bring. Overcrowded ruined school systems, the bankrupted ERs, bankrupted welfare, illegal voting, etc,etc.
Level 5

Since: Sep 07

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#8 Oct 29, 2013
Dequin wrote:
Not paying into Obamacare is very much the same as
"failing to leave the country" is to an immigrant.
The only penalty aught to be that of not being in the system:
You see: You cannot force people to get Obamacare,
just like you shouldn´t force people to leave the country.You have to pay income tax, so the government would simply not give you the return, assign an insurance mode to you, and slap whaqtever isw extant onto the next tax bill. Don`t like it? T.S..
So, this ´d be one of the drawbacks of being an American citizen.
If you don´t like it, and you want to be a free person- then you have to let the illegal immigrants also do as they chose.
All this artificial pressure exerted by blocking things- is ludicrous: Go ahead and block everything,and the reuptation of thre U.S., as well as it´s trade relations are going to suffer for
sure. They´re being very restrictive Europe as well, but I don´t see how they can keep this up in
the E.U. either: sooner or later, all systems need to become more liberal, because all this not being
liberal hurts the economy.
Immigrants anyways do jobs no American wants to do.
As far as mitt Romney is concerned: When he was talking about self-deportation, he was actually
self-aborting his bet for the presidency.
being liberal is what is causing most of the EU to go bankrupt, genius.

if you cannot see this, you are brain dead.
Antony

United States

#11 Oct 29, 2013
Show me true facts and then talk to me. 30 millions of illegal people where did you get this. Republican party use to be a great party but they move from the right were Ronald Regan was further and deep to the right like Ted Cruz and tea baggers
Vet

Fayetteville, GA

#12 Oct 29, 2013
Antony wrote:
Show me true facts and then talk to me. 30 millions of illegal people where did you get this. Republican party use to be a great party but they move from the right were Ronald Regan was further and deep to the right like Ted Cruz and tea baggers
English isn't your first language, is it, pende*o?
Khuan

Solon, OH

#13 Oct 29, 2013
Mayela wrote:
New Polls Show Public Moved By Immigration Reform Votes
Polls of Eight Congressional Districts Show Benefit of Voting for Reform
WASHINGTON, DC --(ENEWSPF)--October 29, 2013. New Public Policy Polling (PPP) polls of eight congressional districts, commissioned by the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), show that Republican House members can begin to rebuild the damage to their popularity caused by the government shutdown if they vote for commonsense immigration reform.
"It's clear from these polls that Republicans were damaged by the government shutdown and that voters want their representatives to work on fixing the problems facing America, in this case immigration reform," said SEIU Executive Vice President Rocio Saenz. "Speaker Boehner, by siding with extremists in his party and refusing to schedule a vote on immigration, is putting at risk members of his caucus who could otherwise side with their constituents and vote for immigration reform. Republicans, Independents, Democrats, faith, business and labor leaders are united in calling for a vote on citizenship for immigrants this year. It's time for the Republican leadership to listen to the American public and schedule a vote on immigration reform."
http://www.enewspf.com/opinion/analysis/47440...
New Poll: Colorado and Nevada Voters in Key GOP Districts Looking for Leadership on Immigration Reform
Local and National Leaders Call on Republican Congressmen Amodei, Heck, Coffman, Gardner, and Tipton to Cosponsor New Immigration /
So a poll commissioned by SEIU isn't biased as hell? WTF! SEIU is another arm of the demoratic socialist party. It's touching that they are concerned with with future welfare of the Republican party.

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