Illegal immigrants ask for school rec...

Illegal immigrants ask for school records

There are 89 comments on the Sacramento Bee Newspaper story from Sep 17, 2012, titled Illegal immigrants ask for school records. In it, Sacramento Bee Newspaper reports that:

Thousands of Los Angeles illegal immigrants have inundated the nation's second-largest school district for copies of records that might qualify them for the Obama administration's Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program.

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FritoBandito

San Diego, CA

#62 Sep 20, 2012
Free is free wrote:
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Interesting. In one breath, you tell us that the hallmark of a racist is that they categorize others, then you proceed to try and categorize me.
Is the rat smelling his own hole yet? Logic is clearly not your strong suit.
... and yours isn't refuting the fact that you are a racist.
FritoBandito

San Diego, CA

#63 Sep 20, 2012
Free is free wrote:
It's OK.. You're an illegal alien apologist and excuse-making is the hallmark. The facts are:
- You advocate for people who are breaking the law.
- You call anyone who disagrees with your position a raaysus or Nazi
- You attempt to discredit others by using emotionalism against a position based upon law and solid reasoning
- You make excuses for and try to minimize the wrongdoing of illegal aliens.
If there were a game of BS Bingo themed around illegal alien apologists, you'd have all of us shouting "Bingo!" by now, because you're trotting out all the same tired, debunked and overused arguments and the silly comparisons to the KKK, Nazis, etc. You really do look like a fool; I wonder how long it'll take you to realize that.
In the meantime, I'll just have fun mocking you. Even bigger bigot. Nanny, nanny boo boo!
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I struck a chord. Stew in it. In no time, I'll have you doing tricks. Can you roll over and beg for a bone?

Lets see you power puke more of your one-sided logic. If they stir fried and seasoned rat meat and told you it was filet mignon, you'd agree.
cjrian

Denver, CO

#64 Sep 20, 2012
FritoBandito wrote:
That's hyperbole that's unrealistic and headed nowhere. Mexico has its share of illegals. South and central americans are a problem in the southern portions. Look it up.
You're still not attacking the problem by the root. The federal government, particularly the Border Patrol, did not do their job in the past. Those were the mostly White good ole boy outfit of bureaucrats of yesteryear only concerned with getting paid that gravy train check. Also, you've had Republican presidents like Reagan, who gave them amnesty and rolled the snowball atop the mountain that now appears an avalanche, which IMO is a Right wing hallucination projected onto you to blame a small group of individuals for the economic maladies and such, wherein this garners them votes to get them into office, while they keep sticking to an not so well informed and confused public like you.
The Dreamers demanded nothing. It was groups on their behalf that did. The Obama administration is issuing a two year temporary fix for kids that had nothing to do with what their parents did. Their numbers are minute.
Let me know if you see a mushroom cloud forming as a result of the Dreamers. You've probably already seen one, in your own mind!
What's unrealistic?
Demanding that the US adhere to the same srandards as every other Country?

The ROOT of the problem is that the laws are NOT being enforced
But excusing the 12, 15, 30 million who've ALREADY broken the law is somehow acceptable?
If you can, get Congress to put the statute of limitations on illegal border crossings to 7 years. It'll accomplish the same thing. But don't try to claim that illegal behavior is acceptable - that's BS. I don't care how diligently the law has been enforced.

BTW - the "dreamers" are demanding EVERYTHING.
Citizenship grants them access to benefits which are not deserved
Citizenship grants them voting rights to legislate antithetical law
Citizenship (with no repercussion allows them to run rampant, importing the same Social Condititions thast they sought to escape from
cjrian

Denver, CO

#65 Sep 20, 2012
FritoBandito wrote:
... and yours isn't refuting the fact that you are a racist.
Did you hear dog whistles?

You know that only dogs can hear that, rught?
FritoBandito

San Diego, CA

#66 Sep 20, 2012
cjrian wrote:
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Did you hear dog whistles?
You know that only dogs can hear that, rught?
And what does that have to do with the beans in China? Stupid....
FritoBandito

San Diego, CA

#67 Sep 20, 2012
cjrian wrote:
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What's unrealistic?
Demanding that the US adhere to the same srandards as every other Country?
The ROOT of the problem is that the laws are NOT being enforced
But excusing the 12, 15, 30 million who've ALREADY broken the law is somehow acceptable?
If you can, get Congress to put the statute of limitations on illegal border crossings to 7 years. It'll accomplish the same thing. But don't try to claim that illegal behavior is acceptable - that's BS. I don't care how diligently the law has been enforced.
BTW - the "dreamers" are demanding EVERYTHING.
Citizenship grants them access to benefits which are not deserved
Citizenship grants them voting rights to legislate antithetical law
Citizenship (with no repercussion allows them to run rampant, importing the same Social Condititions thast they sought to escape from
They're not getting citizenship. They're getting a stay of deportation for two years. You're wrong. That's an adjustment that'll be subject to review in two years. Anyway, their numbers are minute. What are you squawking about?

You're still not getting the crux of the problem. It's your federal government and the Border Patrol. They are not doing their job. Why do you insist on barking at the rock, instead of at the jerk who flung it and hit you?

Your problem is that you're seeing non-Whites moving up the latter of success, and a Black president to boot, and you're topsy turvy over something you see as a complete threat of your country as you knew it or wish it should be, but are helpless in doing anything about it, except maybe whine on these forums.
cjrian

Denver, CO

#68 Sep 20, 2012
FritoBandito wrote:
They're not getting citizenship. They're getting a stay of deportation for two years. You're wrong. That's an adjustment that'll be subject to review in two years. Anyway, their numbers are minute. What are you squawking about?
Two years?
Why two years
Does anyone get extra time for shoplifting?
Kidnapping?
Forgery?
Parking illegally?
Sorry, bubba, breaking the law does NO%T qualify for additional time (to wait for the law to possibly change)

In NO other Country is opinion considered
FritoBandito wrote:
You're still not getting the crux of the problem. It's your federal government and the Border Patrol. They are not doing their job. Why do you insist on barking at the rock, instead of at the jerk who flung it and hit you?
And who restrained the Border Patrol?
Dems!
Who've got a vested interest in illegals and condoning voter fraud
FritoBandito wrote:
Your problem is that you're seeing non-Whites moving up the latter of success, and a Black president to boot, and you're topsy turvy over something you see as a complete threat of your country as you knew it or wish it should be, but are helpless in doing anything about it, except maybe whine on these forums
Ohhhhhhh!
Back to the corrupt, defunct race card, are we?
Hope you've got an A, 2, 3, 4, and 5 to go with that!

Sorry, dog whistles are for dogs
I could care less what anyones heritage or melanin content is
I adhere to MLK's "content of their character, and not the color of their skin" meme. When I hire,m work with, work for, etc people, WHY would I place any superficial differences above cost and quality? Maybe YOU would, but only a complete fool do such an inane thing!

FYI, I'm white (as you couldn't guess). My cousin is Asiatic The children I'm raising are mixed race - black and white. I live in a primarily Hispanic neighborhood. I'm the only non-Hispanic white male for 2+ city blocks. I recognize cultural differences, and try to promote (with the kids) what is successful, and deter the detrimental aspects. Now, Why, oh why, would I create negative influences on any that I care about?

Offhand, I'd say that you are resorting to corrupt talking points. They may have worked for you before, but they don't work here. Get a flippin' life, maroon!
FritoBandito

San Diego, CA

#69 Sep 20, 2012
cjrian wrote:
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Two years?
Why two years
Does anyone get extra time for shoplifting?
Kidnapping?
Forgery?
Parking illegally?
Sorry, bubba, breaking the law does NO%T qualify for additional time (to wait for the law to possibly change)
In NO other Country is opinion considered
<quoted text>
And who restrained the Border Patrol?
Dems!
Who've got a vested interest in illegals and condoning voter fraud
<quoted text>
Ohhhhhhh!
Back to the corrupt, defunct race card, are we?
Hope you've got an A, 2, 3, 4, and 5 to go with that!
Sorry, dog whistles are for dogs
I could care less what anyones heritage or melanin content is
I adhere to MLK's "content of their character, and not the color of their skin" meme. When I hire,m work with, work for, etc people, WHY would I place any superficial differences above cost and quality? Maybe YOU would, but only a complete fool do such an inane thing!
FYI, I'm white (as you couldn't guess). My cousin is Asiatic The children I'm raising are mixed race - black and white. I live in a primarily Hispanic neighborhood. I'm the only non-Hispanic white male for 2+ city blocks. I recognize cultural differences, and try to promote (with the kids) what is successful, and deter the detrimental aspects. Now, Why, oh why, would I create negative influences on any that I care about?
Offhand, I'd say that you are resorting to corrupt talking points. They may have worked for you before, but they don't work here. Get a flippin' life, maroon!
Your justifying that you cohabit with likes of all races is nothing but grabbing at straws to make it appear that you're so egalitarian and fair. How could anyone with a conscious for diversity be putting those down that just happen to be brown, and who are aspiring to become productive citizens, and by no fault of their own, were brought here by parents looking for a better life that were in violation of a misdemeanor, not even a crime in moral turpitude as you tried at the beginning of your post to draw correlation with, when there really was none?

You want to conveniently say its the Democrats fault, when everyone knows that big business conglomerates, especially in agriculture, have always bartered on behalf of Republicans, who never had the best social interests at hand for the country. Reagan is a classic example. I don't need to reiterate his demoralization of the Border Patrol, when he gave illegals amnesty back in 1986. He set off a chain of events that to date are still being felt. That's apparent, yet you still have the audacity to say it's a Democrats fault. FYI, Obama has deported more criminal aliens than any other president in history.

There's nothing defunct about the race card. Al Sharpton makes a far better living than you on MSNBC, as does Sean Hannity with his subliminal remarks that are anti-Black. Wake up. You're just a dog on a leash and the person pulling it is a system that calls the shots that wants it that way, regardless of how much and how well you jump and do tricks.

You're not good at tricks anyway. Jumping doesn't cut it either. You're better at being self subverting. Stick with it. It fits you best.
barry

Henagar, AL

#70 Sep 20, 2012
cjrian wrote:
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Due process does NOT excuse blatantly breaking the law
Lawlessness is not a Right
So what if Mamma and Poppa brought you across the border?
Is yer particular situation better remedied by working within the law?
Or demanding that the law be changed?
Why is it that ONLY the US must allow illegals?
How about if we use a flexible law?
The law that applies will be that of the Country you left?
We simply deport illegals
How about if we used Mexican illegal immigration law for Mexican illegals? That'd be, under the Mexican law, a felony, punishable by up to two years in prison. Repeated re-entrants can be imprisoned for 10 years. Visa violators can be sentenced to six-year terms. Mexicans who help illegal immigrants (sanctuary cities) are considered criminals. Would that be satisfactory?
Other Countries have the death penalty for illegals
you better check that mexican law and get back to us.

1) Illegal entry into Mexican territory is de-criminalized. This means that it is no longer a criminal offense to enter Mexico illegally, and violators will merely be sent back to where they last came from. Previously, illegal immigration was a felony, punishable by up to two years in prison. Immigrants who were deported and attempted to re-enter Mexico could be imprisoned for 10 years. Visa violators could be sentenced to six-year terms. Mexicans who helped illegal immigrants were also subject to criminal prosecution.
2) Illegal migrants will no longer be jailed. They will be taken to a facility run by the Instituto Nacional de Migracion (INM) where they will be fed, clothed, given medical care and the ability to contact their families in their country of origin,
3) Illegal migrants will have the right to seek political asylum or refuge in Mexico and will have a right to a hearing before a judge.
4) Local police, the military, customs and even the Policia Federal will no longer have the authority to question any foreigner’s migratory status. They no longer have any authority to arrest or detain any person suspected of being in the country illegally. Only officials from the INM can do this.
5) Illegal migrants can be given the opportunity to regularize their status and obtain a work/residence permit.

http://nestmann.com/mexico-reforms-its-immigr...
Level 6

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#71 Sep 20, 2012
Johnny Vulture wrote:
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They'll be working soon and paying taxes so lets not pretend that you sitting on your butt is what's paying for this.
We are already paying for them to go to school and that extra English class because they can't learn English on their own.

"Mexicans abhor education. In their country, illiteracy dominates. As they arrive in our country, only 9.6 percent of fourth generation Mexicans earn a high school diploma. Mexico does not promote educational values. This makes them the least educated of any Americans or immigrants. The rate of illiteracy in Mexico stands at 63 percent."

http://www.newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frost...
Level 6

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#72 Sep 20, 2012
barry wrote:
<quoted text>you better check that mexican law and get back to us.
1) Illegal entry into Mexican territory is de-criminalized. This means that it is no longer a criminal offense to enter Mexico illegally, and violators will merely be sent back to where they last came from. Previously, illegal immigration was a felony, punishable by up to two years in prison. Immigrants who were deported and attempted to re-enter Mexico could be imprisoned for 10 years. Visa violators could be sentenced to six-year terms. Mexicans who helped illegal immigrants were also subject to criminal prosecution.
2) Illegal migrants will no longer be jailed. They will be taken to a facility run by the Instituto Nacional de Migracion (INM) where they will be fed, clothed, given medical care and the ability to contact their families in their country of origin,
3) Illegal migrants will have the right to seek political asylum or refuge in Mexico and will have a right to a hearing before a judge.
4) Local police, the military, customs and even the Policia Federal will no longer have the authority to question any foreigner’s migratory status. They no longer have any authority to arrest or detain any person suspected of being in the country illegally. Only officials from the INM can do this.
5) Illegal migrants can be given the opportunity to regularize their status and obtain a work/residence permit.
http://nestmann.com/mexico-reforms-its-immigr...
Who wants to go to Mexico? Even Mexicans don't want to be there.

“Hop On Board!!!”

Level 2

Since: Oct 11

America, Canada, Mexico

#73 Sep 20, 2012
cjrian wrote:
<quoted text>
Two years?
Why two years
Does anyone get extra time for shoplifting?
Kidnapping?
Forgery?
Parking illegally?
Sorry, bubba, breaking the law does NO%T qualify for additional time (to wait for the law to possibly change)
In NO other Country is opinion considered
<quoted text>
And who restrained the Border Patrol?
Dems!
Who've got a vested interest in illegals and condoning voter fraud
<quoted text>
Ohhhhhhh!
Back to the corrupt, defunct race card, are we?
Hope you've got an A, 2, 3, 4, and 5 to go with that!
Sorry, dog whistles are for dogs
I could care less what anyones heritage or melanin content is
I adhere to MLK's "content of their character, and not the color of their skin" meme. When I hire,m work with, work for, etc people, WHY would I place any superficial differences above cost and quality? Maybe YOU would, but only a complete fool do such an inane thing!
FYI, I'm white (as you couldn't guess). My cousin is Asiatic The children I'm raising are mixed race - black and white. I live in a primarily Hispanic neighborhood. I'm the only non-Hispanic white male for 2+ city blocks. I recognize cultural differences, and try to promote (with the kids) what is successful, and deter the detrimental aspects. Now, Why, oh why, would I create negative influences on any that I care about?
Offhand, I'd say that you are resorting to corrupt talking points. They may have worked for you before, but they don't work here. Get a flippin' life, maroon!
Do yourself a favor and learn your US Constitution. You're ranting away like a blowhard and you don't even know that the US Constitution gives power to the president to grant pardons, conditional pardons, commutations of sentence, conditional commutations of sentence, remissions of fines and forfeitures, respites and amnesties.

In the United States, the pardon power for federal crimes is granted to the President of the United States under Article II, Section 2 of the United States Constitution which states that the President "shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment." The Supreme Court of the United States has interpreted this language to include the power to grant pardons, conditional pardons, commutations of sentence, conditional commutations of sentence, remissions of fines and forfeitures, respites and amnesties.

^ P.S. Ruckman, Jr. 1997. "Executive Clemency in the United States: Origins, Development, and Analysis (1900-1993)," 27 Presidential Studies Quarterly, 251-271

“Hop On Board!!!”

Level 2

Since: Oct 11

America, Canada, Mexico

#74 Sep 20, 2012
spytheweb wrote:
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Who wants to go to Mexico? Even Mexicans don't want to be there.
That's not true, The majority of Mexicans are happy in Mexico. If you hate the USA becuase we have Mexicans living here also then you're free to move back to Africa.

“Hop On Board!!!”

Level 2

Since: Oct 11

America, Canada, Mexico

#75 Sep 20, 2012
spytheweb wrote:
<quoted text>
We are already paying for them to go to school and that extra English class because they can't learn English on their own.
"Mexicans abhor education. In their country, illiteracy dominates. As they arrive in our country, only 9.6 percent of fourth generation Mexicans earn a high school diploma. Mexico does not promote educational values. This makes them the least educated of any Americans or immigrants. The rate of illiteracy in Mexico stands at 63 percent."
http://www.newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frost...
Blacks do not promote eduction either. That's why they're all in prison. Right?

You see, you can finger point all day and you'll still lose.
Free is free

Albuquerque, NM

#76 Sep 21, 2012
FritoBandito wrote:
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... and yours isn't refuting the fact that you are a racist.
Being called a racist by the likes of you is a badge of honor.
Free is free

Albuquerque, NM

#77 Sep 21, 2012
More hyperbole (yawn). You done trying to convince us all that the sky is green and the grass is blue?
FritoBandito wrote:
<quoted text>
I struck a chord. Stew in it. In no time, I'll have you doing tricks. Can you roll over and beg for a bone?
Lets see you power puke more of your one-sided logic. If they stir fried and seasoned rat meat and told you it was filet mignon, you'd agree.
FritoBandito

San Diego, CA

#78 Sep 21, 2012
Free is free wrote:
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Being called a racist by the likes of you is a badge of honor.
Well that pretty much sums it up. You tacitly made that admission on the other thread, as opposed to this one where you're certainly by far more overt.

You keep it up with your emotional discharge. It's fun to see a "Professor" step on his own toes, if in fact you're not actually lying about that. These blogs attract some of the biggest frauds known.
FritoBandito

San Diego, CA

#79 Sep 21, 2012
Free is free wrote:
More hyperbole (yawn). You done trying to convince us all that the sky is green and the grass is blue?
<quoted text>
Using logic to explain an emotion is really versatile of you, Mr. Professor. That color example stinks of a former hippie dippy Andrew Breitbart type that took much LSD in the 60's and 70's and with age is paying for it with flashbacks in the wrong direction, but you keep it up. Like I said, it's fun to see you stumble.

Hey, where would we be if not for the likes of you? Things would be pretty boring. I'm hoping your next stage will be a seal act. Maybe trapeze...?
FritoBandito

San Diego, CA

#80 Sep 21, 2012
The Short_Bus Driver wrote:
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Do yourself a favor and learn your US Constitution. You're ranting away like a blowhard and you don't even know that the US Constitution gives power to the president to grant pardons, conditional pardons, commutations of sentence, conditional commutations of sentence, remissions of fines and forfeitures, respites and amnesties.
In the United States, the pardon power for federal crimes is granted to the President of the United States under Article II, Section 2 of the United States Constitution which states that the President "shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment." The Supreme Court of the United States has interpreted this language to include the power to grant pardons, conditional pardons, commutations of sentence, conditional commutations of sentence, remissions of fines and forfeitures, respites and amnesties.
^ P.S. Ruckman, Jr. 1997. "Executive Clemency in the United States: Origins, Development, and Analysis (1900-1993)," 27 Presidential Studies Quarterly, 251-271
Don't waste your breath. These jokers have no respect for the law or the President. They march lock in step to their own drummer and agenda.
Free is free

Albuquerque, NM

#81 Sep 21, 2012
That's precisely the point. The law is the law and there's no room for emotion, which is the core of every argument you've attempted to make. All those words haven't changed the law and illegal aliens are still illegal aliens.

Where to turn now?
FritoBandito wrote:
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Using logic to explain an emotion is really versatile of you, Mr. Professor. That color example stinks of a former hippie dippy Andrew Breitbart type that took much LSD in the 60's and 70's and with age is paying for it with flashbacks in the wrong direction, but you keep it up. Like I said, it's fun to see you stumble.
Hey, where would we be if not for the likes of you? Things would be pretty boring. I'm hoping your next stage will be a seal act. Maybe trapeze...?

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