Kevin Rudd facing disaster in Austral...

Kevin Rudd facing disaster in Australia elections

There are 187 comments on the Examiner.com story from Aug 31, 2013, titled Kevin Rudd facing disaster in Australia elections. In it, Examiner.com reports that:

With Australia's national election one week away, a poll published in Aug 31 The Weekend Australian shows the Australian Labor Party headed for a whopping national defeat similar to the Queensland state election of Mar 2012, when the Liberal National Party won 78 out of 85 seats leaving Labor with a mere 7 seats.

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ignoranceisbliss

Drummoyne, Australia

#128 Sep 8, 2013
tinydropthestickgooddog wrote:
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HA Ha you must write for the murdoch press - your've swallowed everything they have peddled and now look at you regurgitating it on line - oh btw irrelevent, isolated and unrelated facts do not an argument make .
Australia - internationally independently rated best economy in the world despite the GFC - and i thought it was all about the economy - stoopid ha ha - but its really about murdochs bank balance - and hes got you by the short and curlies ha ha
Not an unsurprising response from a 'true believer'.
I bet you think Kevin Rudd's outbursts on three separate occasions, reported by three different women over a period of time, are also a "Great Murdoch Conspiracy".
It will be interesting to see your take on those colleagues in his own party who branded KRudd an egomaniac incompetent fool, were somehow misreported by the "GMC" factor. Then a percentage of that same group, knifed Julia verbally, by that's all down to the "GMC" factor as well. You sure are in awe of Murdoch. Not only does he apparently control the press and wipe any sort of independent thinking from the larger majority of Australia's voting public, but he also uses Labor's mps to participate in infighting; illegal and corrupt activity and spend shiteloads of taxpayer's money of policies that inevitably fail. Clever old Murdoch manipulating the sheep like mentality of Labor MPs.:-)
Now, here's the funny part, according to you Murdoch has me by the short and curlies, but Tony Abbott is indeed our PM and therefore you vicariously have your short n curlies gripped by Murdoch too.
Ironic isn't it ?:-) No wonder you are having a mammoth dummy spit.
I see you NEVER address Labor's infighting; power struggles; corruption; bungled policies; huge debt; wasted billions, somehow you can't blame that on the "GMC" factor. I know, I bet Labor's mistakes are Tony Abbot's fault...lol.
Your mentality is EXACTLY part of why Labor did so abysmally in the election and how'd that work for you on Sunday? It didn't.
Enjoy the next THREE years under PRIME MINISTER ABBOTT dude.:-)
ignoranceisbliss

Drummoyne, Australia

#129 Sep 8, 2013
The ADELAIDEAN wrote:
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Why so defensive?
You and tinydroppings have one thing in common.
You both jump to conclusions.
In the last few pages I have denied only one thing ... tinydropping's drivel about me being angry. I'm not.:)
I did not and do not deny YOUR message in post #86.
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/australia/TE...
I merely indicated that some supporting evidence for it would be nice ... a simple statement of fact.
You might be astonished to learn that like a lot of people I have not spent my time in recent weeks preferentially riveted to Clive Palmer's antics in particular. There has been plenty else to draw my attention.:)
So in response to your post #86 I remain genuinely open to more information to bring me up to date. Call me inquisitive if you like.:)
<quoted text>
What's all this "sheep like yourself" business? Since when does seeking more information make anyone a "sheep"? Would you not concede that seeking more information makes one quite the opposite of a sheep?
Now that I've put you right about my position, perhaps you might see your way clear to provide information that one doesn't have to jump through hoops to access.:)
1)"I have denied only one thing ... tinydropping's drivel about me being angry. I'm not.:)"

No tinydropping's really pissed about the election result, s/he's venting accordingly. Because TD's so angry, s/he assumes other posters are also worked up, I guess.

2)"What's all this "sheep like yourself" business? Since when does seeking more information make anyone a "sheep"? "

It's not the seeking the information that is the problem in you being labelled 'sheeplike',(ironically, in this context, the term 'sheeplike' is being used to describe others with an opposing opinion ..lol) the problem is you not forming an opinion that is deemed "right" by TD and co.

It would be impossible to be deemed "sheeplike" if you had the exact same thoughts and ideologies as TD & co. The 'sheeplike' status can ONLY be achieved if you, IRONICALLY, have a DIFFERING opinion or line of thought.

“REFUSE ALL IMITATIONS!!”

Level 1

Since: Jan 11

Australia

#130 Sep 8, 2013
ignoranceisbliss wrote:
<quoted text>
1)"I have denied only one thing ... tinydropping's drivel about me being angry. I'm not.:)"
No tinydropping's really pissed about the election result, s/he's venting accordingly. Because TD's so angry, s/he assumes other posters are also worked up, I guess.
2)"What's all this "sheep like yourself" business? Since when does seeking more information make anyone a "sheep"? "
It's not the seeking the information that is the problem in you being labelled 'sheeplike',(ironically, in this context, the term 'sheeplike' is being used to describe others with an opposing opinion ..lol) the problem is you not forming an opinion that is deemed "right" by TD and co.
It would be impossible to be deemed "sheeplike" if you had the exact same thoughts and ideologies as TD & co. The 'sheeplike' status can ONLY be achieved if you, IRONICALLY, have a DIFFERING opinion or line of thought.
Yup. You got it in one!:)

TD especially seems to think that we have all surrendered our independence of thought to Murdoch. A suggestion that TD has relinquished his own freedom of thought to "Omg's" propaganda should summon an entertaining response.:)
ignoranceisbliss

Drummoyne, Australia

#131 Sep 8, 2013
Omg wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you think they counted your vote. The election result was called before the first vote was counted. It's easy for them now when the press is in your back pocket.
Murdoch has been caught rigging polls.
You want a facist state where anyone who disagrees with you is not australian,
It's not hard to rig an election. It's blatantly obvious that companies have fraudulently controlled this election.
And like a typical stooge you have bought into it.
If you knew anything handing big buisness ultimate power doesn't create jobs. Anyone with basic knowledge knows the ultimate goal of a buisness is to get there employees to do more work for less pay and to have less payed employees.
Maximise profits at all costs.
You scream communisim ect because its likely you are some spoilt little runt who's living off there parents income.
"Murdoch has been caught rigging polls."

Well I'm open to getting more information on that assertion. Could you please post the links or directly post the information on this.
I'm assuming you are deadly serious about that, not suffering some sort of foot in mouth disease because you are angry about the election results.

"You want a facist state where anyone who disagrees with you is not Australian"

No. I want accountability. You are the one hopping up and down on the spot about the 'rigging of polls', the 'Murdoch' factor controlling the masses.

I do believe Labor's precious and then sacked Julia was the one who did the big back down on tightening control and censoring of the media.
After ALL the media basically were up in arms and dear girl, that wasn't just the Murdoch media angry about it.
Apparently her meetings with various media holders and editors didn't go to plan with her laying down the law to them and threatening this and that.

"
A GOVERNMENT-appointed enforcer would oversee press standards and have the power to apply sanctions, which critics said would stifle news reporting, under proposed draconian media changes.

Communications Minister Stephen Conroy yesterday announced a new proposed statutory position of Public Interest Media Advocate, among a raft of changes the government will attempt to ram through parliament by the end of next week.
Australian Press Council Chairman Julian Disney said the situation was concerning."

"LABOR has killed off its controversial media reforms after failing to secure the numbers to rush them through parliament, raising questions over Julia Gillard's handling of the policy at a delicate point in her leadership.

The government made the move after attempting to reach a compromise with the Greens and some independents that could have seen the changes pass the parliament by a single vote.

Communications Minister Stephen Conroy intends to confirm the move before Question Time to put the media debate to rest before parliament rises for a seven-week break.

Earlier, an attempt to salvage Labor's media bills struck trouble within hours of being proposed after regional independent Rob Oakeshott declared he would not abstain on a crucial vote to legislate the changes on Thursday."

Sounds a bit like fascism, doesn't it?:-)
ignoranceisbliss

Drummoyne, Australia

#132 Sep 8, 2013
The ADELAIDEAN wrote:
<quoted text>
Yup. You got it in one!:)
TD especially seems to think that we have all surrendered our independence of thought to Murdoch. A suggestion that TD has relinquished his own freedom of thought to "Omg's" propaganda should summon an entertaining response.:)
I just don't get that mentality at all . But then, I don't have that blind faith in any Leader or Party to say I support them no matter what they do or say.

I've seen in the past Liberals deserving to not be in Government and I've seen Labor deserve the same thing.
If Liberals screw it up like Labor did, they too will deserve what's coming next election.

OMG is like an addict who is in total denial they have any sort of a problem and become angrily outraged at the person who suggests it. Yes, should be interesting :-)
thor

Bicton, Australia

#133 Sep 9, 2013
Omg wrote:
<quoted text>
You are in denial there were plenty if people like you in Italy when Mussolini was in power.
you truely are off your head ! your biggest problem is that Australia /Australians have voted , and guess what ? we have decided that the like,s of you are the minority , that would be Labor voter,s , yes thats farking right you are the minority ! now get over your self and let the rest of us, that would be the majority , yes the majority , that means most of us !!! have elected the Liberals ,so how about you respect those democratic ideals you have and let us start repairing the damage caused by 6 years of the worst government Australia has ever had , you seem to be all about democracy, as long as it,s what you agree with ! ever heard of communism ? honestly omg , because Australia / Australians have voted against your ideals we are all idiots in your view ? suggest you have a long , hard look at yourself ! now omg is going to come back with all the good stuff Labor has implemented , suggest you look at the dates they were going to implement ! take your conspiracy theories and lodge them with your dole cheque omg
thor

Bicton, Australia

#134 Sep 9, 2013
ignoranceisbliss wrote:
<quoted text>
I just don't get that mentality at all . But then, I don't have that blind faith in any Leader or Party to say I support them no matter what they do or say.
I've seen in the past Liberals deserving to not be in Government and I've seen Labor deserve the same thing.
If Liberals screw it up like Labor did, they too will deserve what's coming next election.
OMG is like an addict who is in total denial they have any sort of a problem and become angrily outraged at the person who suggests it. Yes, should be interesting :-)
shit I think I just suggested it , fark him/her/it , lets give Abbott a go ! as for omg ! he,s now the minority ! he needs to learn that! as for Abbott at least he has started out by telling the truth ! reckon he will be a good to better pm ,if not great !(my opinion only) nobody can say that about the the last 2
thor

Bicton, Australia

#135 Sep 9, 2013
ignoranceisbliss wrote:
<quoted text>
I just don't get that mentality at all . But then, I don't have that blind faith in any Leader or Party to say I support them no matter what they do or say.
I've seen in the past Liberals deserving to not be in Government and I've seen Labor deserve the same thing.
If Liberals screw it up like Labor did, they too will deserve what's coming next election.
OMG is like an addict who is in total denial they have any sort of a problem and become angrily outraged at the person who suggests it. Yes, should be interesting :-)
any rational person would agree with this post ! once again that,s my personal opinion ! your entitled to yours ! that,s what makes Australia great !

“shirley you cant be serious ”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#136 Sep 9, 2013
ignoranceisbliss wrote:
<quoted text>
Not an unsurprising response from a 'true believer'.
I bet you think Kevin Rudd's outbursts on three separate occasions, reported by three different women over a period of time, are also a "Great Murdoch Conspiracy".
It will be interesting to see your take on those colleagues in his own party who branded KRudd an egomaniac incompetent fool, were somehow misreported by the "GMC" factor. Then a percentage of that same group, knifed Julia verbally, by that's all down to the "GMC" factor as well. You sure are in awe of Murdoch. Not only does he apparently control the press and wipe any sort of independent thinking from the larger majority of Australia's voting public, but he also uses Labor's mps to participate in infighting; illegal and corrupt activity and spend shiteloads of taxpayer's money of policies that inevitably fail. Clever old Murdoch manipulating the sheep like mentality of Labor MPs.:-)
Now, here's the funny part, according to you Murdoch has me by the short and curlies, but Tony Abbott is indeed our PM and therefore you vicariously have your short n curlies gripped by Murdoch too.
Ironic isn't it ?:-) No wonder you are having a mammoth dummy spit.
I see you NEVER address Labor's infighting; power struggles; corruption; bungled policies; huge debt; wasted billions, somehow you can't blame that on the "GMC" factor. I know, I bet Labor's mistakes are Tony Abbot's fault...lol.
Your mentality is EXACTLY part of why Labor did so abysmally in the election and how'd that work for you on Sunday? It didn't.
Enjoy the next THREE years under PRIME MINISTER ABBOTT dude.:-)
well if your a worker your gonna get wacked too - so you enjoy dude
tony abbot is PM because murdoch wanted him there - fact
labor did not do that abysmally - it is abbott who has done badly - really tony howard had murdoch on his side and he couldnt do any better - labor is still a fighting force - and Abbott will have a decent opposition
- infighting - power struggles - look at abbott v turnbull - it happens in all parties ,
bungled policies - details please - and not just murdoch parrotting please
Australia has the worlds best economy with very little debt as a percentage of GDP - watch tony howard trash that -
Parrott all you like - your've been had pal ha ha
thor

Bicton, Australia

#137 Sep 9, 2013
tinydropthestickgooddog wrote:
<quoted text>
well if your a worker your gonna get wacked too - so you enjoy dude
tony abbot is PM because murdoch wanted him there - fact
labor did not do that abysmally - it is abbott who has done badly - really tony howard had murdoch on his side and he couldnt do any better - labor is still a fighting force - and Abbott will have a decent opposition
- infighting - power struggles - look at abbott v turnbull - it happens in all parties ,
bungled policies - details please - and not just murdoch parrotting please
Australia has the worlds best economy with very little debt as a percentage of GDP - watch tony howard trash that -
Parrott all you like - your've been had pal ha ha
your opinion and your,s only - hate to tell you tiny whatever , but Australia / Australians have voted and guess what ? sorry but the majority has spoken , and it is a majority , so therefore sport you have to go with the majority = democracy it,s called - as for bungled policies which one do you want to look at fool ? pink bats - 4 dead , they should face court for that !3 hundred thousand school shed ,s , lets look at the boats shall we ? you really are a tosser ! shyte you even boasted that you had me bettered !I just played the longer game , and guess what you have just had your arse handed to you fool ! Oh and by the way - labor got thrashed

“REFUSE ALL IMITATIONS!!”

Level 1

Since: Jan 11

Australia

#138 Sep 9, 2013
tinydropthestickgooddog wrote:
<quoted text>
well if your a worker your gonna get wacked too - so you enjoy dude
tony abbot is PM because murdoch wanted him there - fact
labor did not do that abysmally - it is abbott who has done badly - really tony howard had murdoch on his side and he couldnt do any better - labor is still a fighting force - and Abbott will have a decent opposition
- infighting - power struggles - look at abbott v turnbull - it happens in all parties ,
bungled policies - details please - and not just murdoch parrotting please
Australia has the worlds best economy with very little debt as a percentage of GDP - watch tony howard trash that -
Parrott all you like - your've been had pal ha ha
Yeah yeah, blame anyone and anything but Labor. You're just making Murdoch your all-purpose heavy duty plug in anywhere pariah. Grow up and grasp the fact that a vast proportion of voters who gave Labor the big flick don't happen to like Murdoch any more than you seem to. They, including me, arrived at their entitled decision for their own cogent reasons.

Every which way you look at it Labor has unraveled for six lamentable years as a first rate c0ckup. They had to go.

Seriously tinydroppings, if the word "Murdoch" were somehow purged from your vocabulary you would be rendered blessedly mute!

“shirley you cant be serious ”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#139 Sep 9, 2013
The ADELAIDEAN wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah yeah, blame anyone and anything but Labor. You're just making Murdoch your all-purpose heavy duty plug in anywhere pariah. Grow up and grasp the fact that a vast proportion of voters who gave Labor the big flick don't happen to like Murdoch any more than you seem to. They, including me, arrived at their entitled decision for their own cogent reasons.
Every which way you look at it Labor has unraveled for six lamentable years as a first rate c0ckup. They had to go.
Seriously tinydroppings, if the word "Murdoch" were somehow purged from your vocabulary you would be rendered blessedly mute!
- it was all a murdoch beat up hmmm the truth hurts ha ha

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Level 1

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#141 Sep 9, 2013
The ADELAIDEAN wrote:
<quoted text>
He's throwing a mega-peeve because he thinks his pet political party got Murdoched at the polls. LMAO!!
Do you think the LNP got Murdoch'd during the Kevin 07 campaign ?

“REFUSE ALL IMITATIONS!!”

Level 1

Since: Jan 11

Australia

#142 Sep 9, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you think the LNP got Murdoch'd during the Kevin 07 campaign ?
Perhaps you are asking the wrong person, Nev.

I'm confident that tinydroppings, our resident Aficionado on the fabled "Murdoching" of political campaigns will be delighted to inflict upon us yet again the benefit of his unrivaled expertise.:)

“REFUSE ALL IMITATIONS!!”

Level 1

Since: Jan 11

Australia

#143 Sep 9, 2013
tinydropthestickgooddog wrote:
<quoted text>
- it was all a murdoch beat up hmmm the truth hurts ha ha
Admit it, tinydroppings ... you've been swayed too much by "Omg's" opinion.:)

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Level 1

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#144 Sep 9, 2013
The ADELAIDEAN wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps you are asking the wrong person, Nev.
I'm confident that tinydroppings, our resident Aficionado on the fabled "Murdoching" of political campaigns will be delighted to inflict upon us yet again the benefit of his unrivaled expertise.:)
I thought it was a militant female Greenie who has something for tiny dogs .

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Level 1

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#145 Sep 9, 2013
The ADELAIDEAN wrote:
<quoted text>
Admit it, tinydroppings ... you've been swayed too much by "Omg's" opinion.:)
Don't you mean very tiny droplets

Since: Dec 10

Subiaco, Australia

#147 Sep 9, 2013
Tony Abbott wrote:
Move over Rudd I am Australia's new PM.
Give me the Keys.
I would like to thank all the people that voted for
me to be your new PM.
You shoud Start with News Corp and the hundreds of thousands of dollars of free Liberal bias advertising. I though there was a limit of dollars of donations to political parties, seems the Libs always get around that.

Since: Dec 10

Subiaco, Australia

#148 Sep 9, 2013
The ADELAIDEAN wrote:
<quoted text>
Yup. You got it in one!:)
TD especially seems to think that we have all surrendered our independence of thought to Murdoch. A suggestion that TD has relinquished his own freedom of thought to "Omg's" propaganda should summon an entertaining response.:)
So do I, though there might be a handful of educated people who vote liberals? most new voters and uneducated voters would be definitely be swayed by the media vendetta against Rudd as they were about the vendetta against Pauline Hanson, the media and the Liberals used their power to harass her and her party and invent lies that saw her falsely incarcerated....now if that is not the media monopoly and the Liberals using their power, lies and united bias, I don't know what is?

“REFUSE ALL IMITATIONS!!”

Level 1

Since: Jan 11

Australia

#149 Sep 9, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
So do I, though there might be a handful of educated people who vote liberals? most new voters and uneducated voters would be definitely be swayed by the media vendetta against Rudd as they were about the vendetta against Pauline Hanson, the media and the Liberals used their power to harass her and her party and invent lies that saw her falsely incarcerated....now if that is not the media monopoly and the Liberals using their power, lies and united bias, I don't know what is?
Independently of anything to be found in the media I'm on record here as expressing my grave mistrust of all the political parties. I've voted accordingly.

So anyone's aspersions about "Murdoch influence" do not even belong in the same hemisphere as me.:)

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