New signs of rising illegal immigrati...

New signs of rising illegal immigration into US

There are 645 comments on the Seattle Post-Intelligencer story from Sep 23, 2013, titled New signs of rising illegal immigration into US. In it, Seattle Post-Intelligencer reports that:

Chart shows estimates for the number of people in the U.S. illegally; 1c x 3 inches; 46.5 mm x 76 mm; Photo: AP FILE - In this June 13, 2013 file photo, US Border Patrol agent Jerry Conlin looks out over Tijuana, Mexico, behind, along the old border wall along the US - Mexico border, where it ends at the base of a hill in San Diego.

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Pupppetmaster

Oceanside, CA

#152 Oct 13, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
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Correction: It was your lawnmower buddy making the claim that those of our culture are scum. Why don't you ask him to back up his claims with CITES, you ignorant hypocrite! And just where did I say myself or my culture is superior to any others? Is that all you and you buddy have are lies in spite of the fact that you and everyone else can read what I actually said and didn't say in here? Come on quote me you coward
We are one in the same. I am not in habit of make broad ignorant comments like you. I don't even know why I even respond to someone that is clearly lacking an education beyond high school if that. You brought up culture and you don't even known what culture means. Please re-read my comments and this time read for comprehension.
Pupppetmaster

Oceanside, CA

#153 Oct 13, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
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There will be no immigration "reform" because it isn't reform anyway. It's amnesty. Hispanics are so gullible. Obama has been promising them that for years in exchange for their votes. What fools they are to think they are so special that their ethnic group would be held above our immigration laws and rewarded for breaking them. Adios amigos!
There you go again, now speaking for HIspanics. Where do you get off? Let me give you a clue. If you are NOT legal you can't vote. How can you be so naive and contradict yourself?
Ratbastard

El Paso, TX

#154 Oct 13, 2013
Pupppetmaster wrote:
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There you go again, now speaking for HIspanics. Where do you get off? Let me give you a clue. If you are NOT legal you can't vote. How can you be so naive and contradict yourself?
You need to watch those sugary drinks with your diabetes and weight problems.
Maria Molina

El Paso, TX

#155 Oct 13, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
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I hold them in PERSONAL contempt for violating our immigration laws and breeding you an anchor baby on our soil. Keep your day job you're no stand-up comedian. How much of our taxpayer dollars did you suck up with your so-called citizenship? Law abiding? How so? They broke our immigration laws. How did they work if they didn't steal someone's ID or SS number? Or did they get paid under the table and evade taxes? All of these things aren't akin to lawabiders.
My venomous ilk? So is that what you call Americans who want their country's immigration laws respected and enforced? I'll get along with anyone who abides by our laws. Sorry, I don't have any use for lawbreakers so why should I get along with them?
You never knew them so you can't hold them in personal contempt. Also, they were loyal Americans who always held their hands over the hearts on St. Patrick's Day and Easter. Plus they were the finest Americans since Patton. So your point is mute.
Pupppetmaster

Oceanside, CA

#156 Oct 13, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
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I hold them in PERSONAL contempt for violating our immigration laws and breeding you an anchor baby on our soil. Keep your day job you're no stand-up comedian. How much of our taxpayer dollars did you suck up with your so-called citizenship? Law abiding? How so? They broke our immigration laws. How did they work if they didn't steal someone's ID or SS number? Or did they get paid under the table and evade taxes? All of these things aren't akin to lawabiders.
My venomous ilk? So is that what you call Americans who want their country's immigration laws respected and enforced? I'll get along with anyone who abides by our laws. Sorry, I don't have any use for lawbreakers so why should I get along with them?
Many of those that you hold in contempt have served this country with honor in the military. Many have died and others bear scares resulting from service for the United States of America. At least one died in combat and was nominated for the Medial of Honor. How dare you even suggest they are any less Americans. You are disgusting. Let us hope that you have served the country you claim to represent. Try taking their awards away for service to the USA. May your hate consume you.
Ratbastard

El Paso, TX

#157 Oct 13, 2013
Pupppetmaster wrote:
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Many of those that you hold in contempt have served this country with honor in the military. Many have died and others bear scares resulting from service for the United States of America. At least one died in combat and was nominated for the Medial of Honor. How dare you even suggest they are any less Americans. You are disgusting. Let us hope that you have served the country you claim to represent. Try taking their awards away for service to the USA. May your hate consume you.
Don't forget to put the seat down when you tinkle, otherwise you may fall in again when you sit down.
tejano

Eagle Pass, TX

#158 Oct 13, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
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Where did he say that English is our "official" language? He didn't but English is our de facto national language like it or not! I am with him if I were to move to Mexico or some other country I would certainly learn the national dominant language out of respect for its citizens. Spanish speakers don't feel the need to show that same respect. Even those who learn English refuse to speak it unless they have to.
Old glory = monkey brains Old glory is ep historian

1. google up: de facto And then dissect it . What does it mean? http://www.wisegeek.com/what-does-de-facto-me...

2. google: what is the official language of the United States? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_the...

3. I didn’t say that more pending knowledge (bien pen dejo) than greener stated something or did I try to point out something he said?. I am merely asking a question since more pending knowledge (bien pen dejo) than greener is telling someone to speaking English because he is in the United States. he is implying that the official language is English. A prudent person would come to the same conclusion as I did. Would you?

4. google: what is the official language of Mexico? Spanish. So it would be in your best interest to learn the Spanish Language if you were to move to Mexico.

5. You say that “Spanish speakers don’t ….” Spanish speakers know there is no official language in the United States and that they are not disrespecting anyone when they speak Spanish.

Monkey brains, I suggest you do a little research before you open your month. If you don’t understand a word look it up.
sheepleloveroyal ty

Pottstown, PA

#159 Oct 13, 2013
Pupppetmaster wrote:
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Many of those that you hold in contempt have served this country with honor in the military. Many have died and others bear scares resulting from service for the United States of America. At least one died in combat and was nominated for the Medial of Honor. How dare you even suggest they are any less Americans. You are disgusting. Let us hope that you have served the country you claim to represent. Try taking their awards away for service to the USA. May your hate consume you.
How many ILLEGALS have served this country? If a person honestly admits their status and are qualified they can enlist. A non citizen/LEGAL immigrant can enlist. No one is taking anything away from LEGAL immigrants or enlistees.
Puppetmaster

Oceanside, CA

#160 Oct 13, 2013
sheepleloveroyalty wrote:
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How many ILLEGALS have served this country? If a person honestly admits their status and are qualified they can enlist. A non citizen/LEGAL immigrant can enlist. No one is taking anything away from LEGAL immigrants or enlistees.
Read oldglory's comments. The hater lumps all Hispanic into one group that he/she hates. The fool is ignorant of the 14th Amendment. The hater offends. A person can admit anything but legal documentation is required for enlistment.

The shallow idiot should focus on the numbers of Muslims coming to this country. Not to mention the number of Chinese, Russian and Pakistanis that enter our country each year. The last time the USA fought a war with Mexico was early last century. Wake up fool! We are fighting Muslims that hate our way of life. We fought Chinese in the 1950s and Russian are our enemy today. Not to mention the Pakistanis that aide the Tailban. Who are we fooling?

Hey fool who did the last terrorist act on American soil???? It was not a Hispanic.
STD free

United States

#161 Oct 14, 2013
Jesus Malverde wrote:
<quoted text>Boy, are you dumb. Undocumented means I bought all the citizenship papers in Tijuana and I'm legit, just haven't got around to documenting it with the government yet. I bet you really believe that are such as things as jumbo shrimp. LOL
Bought meaning you paid for fake documents. You're a dumb ass!!!! I can hardly wait to give you your silver bracelets and slam your head accidentally when you are put in the back seat!!!!!
Jesus Malverde

Las Vegas, NV

#162 Oct 14, 2013
STD free wrote:
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Bought meaning you paid for fake documents. You're a dumb ass!!!! I can hardly wait to give you your silver bracelets and slam your head accidentally when you are put in the back seat!!!!!
Yawn.
Vet

Fayetteville, GA

#163 Oct 14, 2013
Jesus Malverde wrote:
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Yawn.
Pernde*o, yawn.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#164 Oct 14, 2013
Pupppetmaster wrote:
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You find one comment to show that all your points are valid. You make no sense.
Demanding that I prove that most of the American culture are not scum is like asking me to prove that the sky is blue, you twit. Look up the crime stats and compare it to the number of Americans in this country and you will see that criminals are among the minority. As I said, the initial claim was made that American culture is composed of scum so it is up to the one who made that INITIAL claim to prove it. Neither you or your lawnmover buddy can do that so you just keep repeating like a parrot "show that my points are valid". So it is you that makeS no sense. Put up or shut up! The initial claim was made by YOUR SIDE!
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#165 Oct 14, 2013
Puppetmaster wrote:
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Read oldglory's comments. The hater lumps all Hispanic into one group that he/she hates. The fool is ignorant of the 14th Amendment. The hater offends. A person can admit anything but legal documentation is required for enlistment.
The shallow idiot should focus on the numbers of Muslims coming to this country. Not to mention the number of Chinese, Russian and Pakistanis that enter our country each year. The last time the USA fought a war with Mexico was early last century. Wake up fool! We are fighting Muslims that hate our way of life. We fought Chinese in the 1950s and Russian are our enemy today. Not to mention the Pakistanis that aide the Tailban. Who are we fooling?
Hey fool who did the last terrorist act on American soil???? It was not a Hispanic.
I did no such thing you lying POS! I don't lump Hispanic citizens in with illegal aliens. You got that now!!!!!!! I am not ignorant of the 14th Amendment. It is merely being mis-interpreted and once the SC actually tries a case of a kid born from illegal alien parents (and I don't give a damn if they are Hispanic or not) the truth will come out. It was never intended by the writers of that amendment to make instant citizens of kids born from illegal aliens on our soil.

No, we should focus on ALL illegal aliens coming to our country and also deny entry to those who wish to harm us. The fact that there are millions of illegal aliens that are mostly from Mexico is not allowed to be mentioned? Those from known terrorist countries have been known to slip through our southern border right along with illegal aliens coming here for other reasons. The FBI Director already admitted that.

Fighting terrorists is a separate issue from illegal immigration. Are you actually suggesting that because Mexico or some other countries are on our side on that we should look the other way on our immigration laws just for them? You must be joking! Mexico already enjoys the highest quotas for legal immigration into our country. So we should look the other way on those entering illegally also?
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#166 Oct 14, 2013
sheepleloveroyalty wrote:
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How many ILLEGALS have served this country? If a person honestly admits their status and are qualified they can enlist. A non citizen/LEGAL immigrant can enlist. No one is taking anything away from LEGAL immigrants or enlistees.
Wrong! Illegal aliens cannot lawfully join our military and rightly so! If they were to admit their status they would be turned away.
sheepleloveroyal ty

Pottstown, PA

#167 Oct 14, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
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Wrong! Illegal aliens cannot lawfully join our military and rightly so! If they were to admit their status they would be turned away.
I didn't say illegal immigrants could enlist. LEGAL immigrant and non citizens can enlist in the armed forces. I don't think they can join the officer ranks or there rank will stop at a certain point but a non citizen can enlist.

Where did I day an ILLEGAL immigrant can enlist.

"How many ILLEGALS have served this country? If a person honestly admits their status and are qualified they can enlist. A non citizen/LEGAL immigrant can enlist. No one is taking anything away from LEGAL immigrants or enlistees."

Do you read the part "...and are qualified" meaning legal status

If posing the question about ILLEGAL immigrants confused you I apologize. To make the point clearer perhaps I should've answered with a big NONE!
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#168 Oct 14, 2013
Maria Molina wrote:
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You never knew them so you can't hold them in personal contempt. Also, they were loyal Americans who always held their hands over the hearts on St. Patrick's Day and Easter. Plus they were the finest Americans since Patton. So your point is mute.
I don't know every U.S.citizen lawbreaker personally either but that doesn't mean I shouldn't find them contemptable for the crimes they committed. Are you really this dense?

Loyal Americans? You mean they became U.S. citizens? If not then they weren't Americans, loyal or not. It is your points that are moot (not mute, lol).
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#169 Oct 14, 2013
sheepleloveroyalty wrote:
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I didn't say illegal immigrants could enlist. LEGAL immigrant and non citizens can enlist in the armed forces. I don't think they can join the officer ranks or there rank will stop at a certain point but a non citizen can enlist.
Where did I day an ILLEGAL immigrant can enlist.
"How many ILLEGALS have served this country? If a person honestly admits their status and are qualified they can enlist. A non citizen/LEGAL immigrant can enlist. No one is taking anything away from LEGAL immigrants or enlistees."
Do you read the part "...and are qualified" meaning legal status
If posing the question about ILLEGAL immigrants confused you I apologize. To make the point clearer perhaps I should've answered with a big NONE!
Then I misinterpreted what you said when you said this: "If a person honestly admits their status and are qualified they can enlist". I took that to mean you were saying if an illegal alien honestly admits their status that they can enlist.
Maria Molina

El Paso, TX

#170 Oct 14, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
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I don't know every U.S.citizen lawbreaker personally either but that doesn't mean I shouldn't find them contemptable for the crimes they committed. Are you really this dense?
Loyal Americans? You mean they became U.S. citizens? If not then they weren't Americans, loyal or not. It is your points that are moot (not mute, lol).
I am a little dense, especially in the hip/thigh/buttock area but I don't see what that has to do with anything. You should reserve your contempt for the really outrageous villains like bank robbers, rapists, bail jumpers and sodomoizers. You're entitled to your opinions, of course, but may parents always sang the anthem at ball games, always went to the 4th of July parades and even learned to like hot dogs. So I don't see how they could have been any more American, unless it was dressing up like Betsy Ross or John Paul Jones.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#171 Oct 14, 2013
Pupppetmaster wrote:
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We are one in the same. I am not in habit of make broad ignorant comments like you. I don't even know why I even respond to someone that is clearly lacking an education beyond high school if that. You brought up culture and you don't even known what culture means. Please re-read my comments and this time read for comprehension.
Please point out my so-called broad, ignorant statements. I'll wait. Be specific. Don't just come back with generalizations or insults.

You don't know me. I am college educated, worked all my life and am retired now. Why is it that your ilk cannot debate without false insinuations and insults?

No, I didn't bring up culture another poster did. Which in turn your lawnmower buddy said our American culture (probably meant white of course) was scum. You're the one not comprehending and I am sure it is by choice because there is no defense in calling ANY culture "scum". And I certainly do know what culture is. Just more of your insults and false accusations. Proud of yourself?

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