New signs of rising illegal immigrati...

New signs of rising illegal immigration into US

There are 645 comments on the Seattle Post-Intelligencer story from Sep 23, 2013, titled New signs of rising illegal immigration into US. In it, Seattle Post-Intelligencer reports that:

Chart shows estimates for the number of people in the U.S. illegally; 1c x 3 inches; 46.5 mm x 76 mm; Photo: AP FILE - In this June 13, 2013 file photo, US Border Patrol agent Jerry Conlin looks out over Tijuana, Mexico, behind, along the old border wall along the US - Mexico border, where it ends at the base of a hill in San Diego.

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POS

Netherlands

#335 Oct 21, 2013
Lupe Alvarez wrote:
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How are other countries laws relevant to ours on this or any issue? Why not stone people for adultery then? Or imprison people who are homosexual? Or require military service for all 18 year olds? Or guarantee 8 weeks vacation for all workers? Your points are all moot because you're intellectually dishonest and morally bankrupt.
That is a typical response of someone that does not want to understand what is illegal. We as American citizens are obligated by morals to respect other countries laws. Citizens of other counties should respect the laws of the country they enter. I travel around the world all year long. Some countries require that I get a Visa before entering and I do. All the countries have a time of duration, that I must and do respect. Along with the laws of the land. I have received traffic violations, that I have paid.

Where did I mention that I wanted the USA to be like other countries. All I said, at the end was, see what happens if you violate other countries immigration laws. Intellectually dishonest and morally bankrupt, and don't forget incomprehensible is what you have shown with your comment.

Level 1

Since: Apr 10

La Canada Flintridge, CA

#336 Oct 21, 2013
Lets see, Republicans shut down the government and then complains that illegal immigration is on the rise.

Only the GOP can be this stup*d!
Paul Gonzalez

El Paso, TX

#337 Oct 21, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
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Please point out the posts where anyone has said that is ok to come here legally unless you are Hispanic. That's a bald faced lie and you know it!! I have no problem with LEGAL immigration from ANYWHERE!!! Got it now? So put your victim mentality card for Hispanics back in your wallet!
No, I am not ok with non-Hispanics that aren't loyal to the USA either. Where did I or anyone else say that either??? You are just twisting other people's words so you can continue to play the race and victim card for Hispanics.
A planned immigration reform rally recently took place on the National Mall. Organizers for the “Camino Americano: March for Immigration Reform” set up a stage and equipment. Even though the park had signs informing visitors that the area was closed as a result of the government shutdown, the Mall was opened for the rally. Susana Flores, a spokesperson for the rally, confirmed for the Washington Examiner that the Park Service allowed the event to take place under the group’s rights granted by the First Amendment.
The massive turnout signified how much momentum there is for immigration reform this year to allow those living in the country without documents to get on a pathway to full citizenship. President Obama has made it his next priority now that the shetdown has been ended.
Dean Wheeler

El Paso, TX

#338 Oct 21, 2013
The Real American wrote:
Lets see, Republicans shut down the government and then complains that illegal immigration is on the rise.
Only the GOP can be this stup*d!
Everyone with half a brain knows, including me, that the Republicans are all turds. They gave us all a crap sandwich to eat with their war mongering, jerrymandering and bullcrapping. Now that they are out of power, it'll be a damn cold day in hell before they are voted back in. It's Democrats who are now balls to the wall. Hillary is a shoo in to bag the office and then after that, it may very well be Finley.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#339 Oct 21, 2013
Lupe Alvarez wrote:
One thing that has not been pointed out at all in this thread is the children of immigrants. I agree with the sentiments of those who say the laws should be enforced because none of us wants chaos or anarchy. However, a civilized society can balance the needs of law enforcement with the needs of innocent children. When parents are deported, the children are forced to grow up as orphans. Yes, conditions have improved for them since the days of Oliver Twist, but children need their parents to nurture and train them. Perhaps we can work out a compromises which allows those who immigrated here without papers to stay and raise their kids while we deport all the single people, who have no reason to stay here any longer. I see that as a win/win we all can be excited about.
A truly civilized society will not reward lawbreakers. How about American lawbreakers should they not go to jail if they have kids? The parents can take their kids with them when they are deported so where is the problem? Yes, children do need their parents therefore they can stay united by all going back to the homeland together. You were sayin? Why do they have to stay united on OUR soil?

It doesn't matter if someone is here as a single or is married. Our immigration laws do not reward those with kids opposed to those who do not, nor should they. There is no win/win for the American people in allowing illegal aliens and their kids to remain here to continue to suck up our jobs and resources. They are their own country's responsibility not ours.
Lupe Alvarez

El Paso, TX

#340 Oct 21, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
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A truly civilized society will not reward lawbreakers. How about American lawbreakers should they not go to jail if they have kids? The parents can take their kids with them when they are deported so where is the problem? Yes, children do need their parents therefore they can stay united by all going back to the homeland together. You were sayin? Why do they have to stay united on OUR soil?
It doesn't matter if someone is here as a single or is married. Our immigration laws do not reward those with kids opposed to those who do not, nor should they. There is no win/win for the American people in allowing illegal aliens and their kids to remain here to continue to suck up our jobs and resources. They are their own country's responsibility not ours.
After going back and reading all of your cruel, vindictive posts I now see why others refer to you as a cold-hearted bastard. For children born in America, this is their country. So instead of having the parents uproot them for their country of origin, the parents must be allowed to stay here and give them the love and support than all children need. I'm sure you would have objected had the state come into your home and rip the nursing child you had from your wife's bosom so why wouldn't immigrants feel any differently? It's no skin off your butt to have a few parents stay here. Yes, some work in prostitution but not all immigrants suck to make a living as you say. Sucking jobs are very bad and I would never condone that. But I hate to see families broken apart and the Bible agree on this. It clearly says "let man not tear assunder." Are you an atheist that you would disregard what the Bible says?
Jesus Christ

Walnut, CA

#341 Oct 21, 2013
I the lord and savior say amnesty for all mexican illegals only.
HOLLA ISABELLA

Ardsley, NY

#342 Oct 21, 2013
Lupe Alvarez wrote:
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After going back and reading all of your cruel, vindictive posts I now see why others refer to you as a cold-hearted bastard. For children born in America, this is their country. So instead of having the parents uproot them for their country of origin, the parents must be allowed to stay here and give them the love and support than all children need. I'm sure you would have objected had the state come into your home and rip the nursing child you had from your wife's bosom so why wouldn't immigrants feel any differently? It's no skin off your butt to have a few parents stay here. Yes, some work in prostitution but not all immigrants suck to make a living as you say. Sucking jobs are very bad and I would never condone that. But I hate to see families broken apart and the Bible agree on this. It clearly says "let man not tear assunder." Are you an atheist that you would disregard what the Bible says?
You are now my favorite stupid splc for your ridiculous ignorant ravings. We should reward invaders of our country, leeches, roaches, vermin, for having children and allow them to become citizens? NO! Every wet back would immediately have children so they can stay in the US...NOT TO BE GOOD CITIZENS, but to sponge off the American taxpayer. Don't quote the Bible, you lowlife bean-er. That will not make me feel sorry for lawbreakers playing Americans as suckers. There will never be amnesty for ANY of you wet back pieces of shit. I look forward to the TV reports showing children being ripped from their parents' arms, crying, pleading. That will teach you wet backs to stay in your own country. GFY
Lupe Alvarez

El Paso, TX

#343 Oct 21, 2013
HOLLA ISABELLA wrote:
<quoted text>
You are now my favorite stupid splc for your ridiculous ignorant ravings. We should reward invaders of our country, leeches, roaches, vermin, for having children and allow them to become citizens? NO! Every wet back would immediately have children so they can stay in the US...NOT TO BE GOOD CITIZENS, but to sponge off the American taxpayer. Don't quote the Bible, you lowlife bean-er. That will not make me feel sorry for lawbreakers playing Americans as suckers. There will never be amnesty for ANY of you wet back pieces of shit. I look forward to the TV reports showing children being ripped from their parents' arms, crying, pleading. That will teach you wet backs to stay in your own country. GFY
How funny! Apparently you didn't get the memo in your lily white world but America belongs to people of color now, from the White House on down. Instead of the images you wish for, you will see your degenerate ilk sucking our kneecaps looking for crumbs, but none will be forthcoming. Desperation is the last bastion of the damned, which is why your hysterical rant is so predictable, yet hilarious. The game is over, dog, and you lost. Accept it and perhaps you can live out your last days with a few vestiges of your former dominance.
HOLLA ISABELLA

Ardsley, NY

#344 Oct 21, 2013
Lupe Alvarez wrote:
<quoted text>
How funny! Apparently you didn't get the memo in your lily white world but America belongs to people of color now, from the White House on down. Instead of the images you wish for, you will see your degenerate ilk sucking our kneecaps looking for crumbs, but none will be forthcoming. Desperation is the last bastion of the damned, which is why your hysterical rant is so predictable, yet hilarious. The game is over, dog, and you lost. Accept it and perhaps you can live out your last days with a few vestiges of your former dominance.
This piece of shit posting is a PERFECT example of how misguided, self-delusional and ignorant wet backs are. You see, you're a splc, your relatives are splcs, your friends are splcs, you watch splc TV and listen to splc radio. All of them are convinced that wet backs are special, hard working and dynamic when in actuality illegal alien splcs are stupid, lazy, liars, cheaters and thieves. You believe you will run America soon. Well, first you have to graduate from high school, stop having illegitimate babies at 14 (how many bastards have you spewed out?). You march in the streets and think just because two thousand splcs show up with Spanish signs that all of America just can't wait to make you walking pieces of shit citizens. Without whites running the country, who would build the highways, run the hospitals and colleges, write software, send rockets into space? Certainly not wet backs, they can build low riders and that's it. Face it, you are useless, vermin, toilet cleaners, gardeners, despised by the white Europeans who run Mexico who know you are human garbage and encourage you to move to America. Subhuman. Vile, vulgar and violent. And you actually think you will be in charge. You will all be rounded up like the Japanese. Don't fuck with the whites. You are in way over your greezy heads. GFY
ronnie

Salt Lake City, UT

#345 Oct 21, 2013
Lupe Alvarez wrote:
<quoted text>
After going back and reading all of your cruel, vindictive posts I now see why others refer to you as a cold-hearted bastard. For children born in America, this is their country. So instead of having the parents uproot them for their country of origin, the parents must be allowed to stay here and give them the love and support than all children need. I'm sure you would have objected had the state come into your home and rip the nursing child you had from your wife's bosom so why wouldn't immigrants feel any differently? It's no skin off your butt to have a few parents stay here. Yes, some work in prostitution but not all immigrants suck to make a living as you say. Sucking jobs are very bad and I would never condone that. But I hate to see families broken apart and the Bible agree on this. It clearly says "let man not tear assunder." Are you an atheist that you would disregard what the Bible says?
The sad part is the illegals anchored and fell over the fence before giving birth, all at our expense. We've paid for your bastards. They will never be respected or recognized as Americans because of the shameful methods your familia's have used to get money from me and million of tax payers in my Country. We simply have zero respect for this behavior and will never include anchor babies in the American consciousness... Read it and weep Lupe....
Lupe Alvarez

El Paso, TX

#346 Oct 21, 2013
HOLLA ISABELLA wrote:
<quoted text>
You are now my favorite stupid splc for your ridiculous ignorant ravings. It used to be a Latina woman I dated some years ago but she left me after I couldn't get it up. She was a beauty, with big boobs and a killer butt. I lusted after her and finally convinced her to sleep with me but on the big night, I went limp as a noodle. So that's why I have it in for all Hispanics - I couldn't score with one back then and now I'm bitter towards them all. That will teach you wet backs to stay in your own country. GFY
LOL - I thought as much. Perhaps you should spend less time ranting and more time searching for a good price on Viagra.
Good Bye Bigoted Azz

Newport Beach, CA

#347 Oct 21, 2013
HOLLA ISABELLA wrote:
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This piece of shit posting is a PERFECT example of how misguided, self-delusional and ignorant wet backs are. You see, you're a splc, your relatives are splcs, your friends are splcs, you watch splc TV and listen to splc radio. All of them are convinced that wet backs are special, hard working and dynamic when in actuality illegal alien splcs are stupid, lazy, liars, cheaters and thieves. You believe you will run America soon. Well, first you have to graduate from high school, stop having illegitimate babies at 14 (how many bastards have you spewed out?). You march in the streets and think just because two thousand splcs show up with Spanish signs that all of America just can't wait to make you walking pieces of shit citizens. Without whites running the country, who would build the highways, run the hospitals and colleges, write software, send rockets into space? Certainly not wet backs, they can build low riders and that's it. Face it, you are useless, vermin, toilet cleaners, gardeners, despised by the white Europeans who run Mexico who know you are human garbage and encourage you to move to America. Subhuman. Vile, vulgar and violent. And you actually think you will be in charge. You will all be rounded up like the Japanese. Don't fuck with the whites. You are in way over your greezy heads. GFY
Hahahhaa!
Lupe drove her foot way up your butt!
Yup, you're a desperate, delusional fool.
Pitiful......
HOLLA ISABELLA

Ardsley, NY

#348 Oct 21, 2013
Lupe Alvarez wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL - I thought as much. Perhaps you should spend less time ranting and more time searching for a good price on Viagra.
Fantasize all you want. I have never met a latina worthy of bedding. Short, fat, greez-y hair, dirty, stubby fingers, three little bastards by three different guys, uneducated, unskilled, pimply, violent and outright disgusting. The absolute worse thing about being a wet back is that you have to fuck other wet backs. Ugh.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#349 Oct 21, 2013
Lupe Alvarez wrote:
<quoted text>
After going back and reading all of your cruel, vindictive posts I now see why others refer to you as a cold-hearted bastard. For children born in America, this is their country. So instead of having the parents uproot them for their country of origin, the parents must be allowed to stay here and give them the love and support than all children need. I'm sure you would have objected had the state come into your home and rip the nursing child you had from your wife's bosom so why wouldn't immigrants feel any differently? It's no skin off your butt to have a few parents stay here. Yes, some work in prostitution but not all immigrants suck to make a living as you say. Sucking jobs are very bad and I would never condone that. But I hate to see families broken apart and the Bible agree on this. It clearly says "let man not tear assunder." Are you an atheist that you would disregard what the Bible says?
So it is cruel and vindictive to want our immigration laws enforced which means deporting illegal aliens? No, their parents should not be rewarded for violating our immigration laws just because they have kids here! American lawbreakers don't get rewarded they suffer the consequences of their criminals acts and it doesn't matter if THEY have children. Are you really this dense?

If the parents dragged their kids here illegally or they had kids born on our soil it doesn't matter. Minor children belong with their parents and should not be used as pawns by their parents to escape justice from our immigration laws. These kids know the culture of their homeland and are even taught the language by their parents. Many of them have relatives still in their homelands also. Even Americans kids have to adjust when their parents move and they do it well. What makes the kids of illegal aliens so special and unable to adjust?

Who's ripping any kids from their mother's bosom? Talk about a Drama Queen! Lawbreakers should expect the worse and they alone are responsible for what happens to them. Put the blame where the blame belongs!

I see you also have a reading comprehension problem. I didn't say anything about jobs that suck. I said if they remained here they would continue to suck up our scarce jobs and resources. That means that they would be able to continue to work here, duh!

The Bible says obey the laws of land, don't take what belongs to others (stealing) don't lie (like using other people's ID's) and do not cause others harm all of which illegal aliens do! So don't preach the Bible to me. I am no atheist and you conveniently ignore the Ten Commandments which most illegals break by being here. We have enough of our own home grown sinners and law breakers we sure shouldn't have to deal with foreigners here illegally and in violation of our immigration laws AND the Bible's teachings.

Now I have no further need to discuss this with you anymore because you are the typical ethnocentric, racist Hispanic who doesn't give a damn about our country's citizen and all you have are insults towards law abiding Americans. You're a selfish lot with no morals or scruples and all that counts is your ethnic group. Our laws and the Bible's teachings mean nothing to you! Yet you preach the Bible to me? LOL! God help this country if we do end up granting amnesty to a culture of people who are so morally bankrupt like you. Bye!
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#350 Oct 21, 2013
Lupe Alvarez wrote:
<quoted text>
How funny! Apparently you didn't get the memo in your lily white world but America belongs to people of color now, from the White House on down. Instead of the images you wish for, you will see your degenerate ilk sucking our kneecaps looking for crumbs, but none will be forthcoming. Desperation is the last bastion of the damned, which is why your hysterical rant is so predictable, yet hilarious. The game is over, dog, and you lost. Accept it and perhaps you can live out your last days with a few vestiges of your former dominance.
Yes, the USA belongs to whites and people of color who are here LEGALLY!!! Get it! It doesn't belong to illegal aliens and it never will! Wow, Hispanics are the dominant group in 23 countries on the Western Hemisphere but that isn't enough for you people? You want the USA to? No greed there, right? Do you also have a problem that China is dominated by Asians, Mexico dominated by Hispanics? If not, then why do you have a problem with whites being the dominant group here since this country's founding? Racist, much??? Hypocrite, much???

We lost? Lost to whom? Illegal aliens? Over our dead bodies! I as a white person should feel I lost because there are minorities here LEGALLY? Um no, race card puller!!!
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#351 Oct 21, 2013
The Real American wrote:
Lets see, Republicans shut down the government and then complains that illegal immigration is on the rise.
Only the GOP can be this stup*d!
It's debatable as to which party shut down the government. I believe they were both to blame. What the hell does the shut down have to do with illegal immigration anyway? Go post in the politics forum if you want to discuss the shutdown. This is the illegal immigration forum. The shut down wasn't against the law anyway but illegal immigration is. Learn to know the difference and play your party politics somewhere else!
Puppetmaster

Oceanside, CA

#352 Oct 21, 2013
HOLLA ISABELLA wrote:
<quoted text>
You are now my favorite stupid splc for your ridiculous ignorant ravings. We should reward invaders of our country, leeches, roaches, vermin, for having children and allow them to become citizens? NO! Every wet back would immediately have children so they can stay in the US...NOT TO BE GOOD CITIZENS, but to sponge off the American taxpayer. Don't quote the Bible, you lowlife bean-er. That will not make me feel sorry for lawbreakers playing Americans as suckers. There will never be amnesty for ANY of you wet back pieces of shit. I look forward to the TV reports showing children being ripped from their parents' arms, crying, pleading. That will teach you wet backs to stay in your own country. GFY
You hate well. You have much to teach the world about your hate. Generations of marrying your cousins has created a real monster. How many of your family are on welfare? How many are alcoholics and dopers? Don't try an be high and mighty. You and you like are the haters of the world without equal. You are the low life. Don't believe me? Look in the mirror.
Puppetmaster

Oceanside, CA

#353 Oct 21, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
<quoted text>
So it is cruel and vindictive to want our immigration laws enforced which means deporting illegal aliens? No, their parents should not be rewarded for violating our immigration laws just because they have kids here! American lawbreakers don't get rewarded they suffer the consequences of their criminals acts and it doesn't matter if THEY have children. Are you really this dense?
If the parents dragged their kids here illegally or they had kids born on our soil it doesn't matter. Minor children belong with their parents and should not be used as pawns by their parents to escape justice from our immigration laws. These kids know the culture of their homeland and are even taught the language by their parents. Many of them have relatives still in their homelands also. Even Americans kids have to adjust when their parents move and they do it well. What makes the kids of illegal aliens so special and unable to adjust?
Who's ripping any kids from their mother's bosom? Talk about a Drama Queen! Lawbreakers should expect the worse and they alone are responsible for what happens to them. Put the blame where the blame belongs!
I see you also have a reading comprehension problem. I didn't say anything about jobs that suck. I said if they remained here they would continue to suck up our scarce jobs and resources. That means that they would be able to continue to work here, duh!
The Bible says obey the laws of land, don't take what belongs to others (stealing) don't lie (like using other people's ID's) and do not cause others harm all of which illegal aliens do! So don't preach the Bible to me. I am no atheist and you conveniently ignore the Ten Commandments which most illegals break by being here. We have enough of our own home grown sinners and law breakers we sure shouldn't have to deal with foreigners here illegally and in violation of our immigration laws AND the Bible's teachings.
Now I have no further need to discuss this with you anymore because you are the typical ethnocentric, racist Hispanic who doesn't give a damn about our country's citizen and all you have are insults towards law abiding Americans. You're a selfish lot with no morals or scruples and all that counts is your ethnic group. Our laws and the Bible's teachings mean nothing to you! Yet you preach the Bible to me? LOL! God help this country if we do end up granting amnesty to a culture of people who are so morally bankrupt like you. Bye!
You are a typical bigoted liar. Does it run in your family?
Puppetmaster

Oceanside, CA

#354 Oct 21, 2013
HOLLA ISABELLA wrote:
<quoted text>
This piece of shit posting is a PERFECT example of how misguided, self-delusional and ignorant wet backs are. You see, you're a splc, your relatives are splcs, your friends are splcs, you watch splc TV and listen to splc radio. All of them are convinced that wet backs are special, hard working and dynamic when in actuality illegal alien splcs are stupid, lazy, liars, cheaters and thieves. You believe you will run America soon. Well, first you have to graduate from high school, stop having illegitimate babies at 14 (how many bastards have you spewed out?). You march in the streets and think just because two thousand splcs show up with Spanish signs that all of America just can't wait to make you walking pieces of shit citizens. Without whites running the country, who would build the highways, run the hospitals and colleges, write software, send rockets into space? Certainly not wet backs, they can build low riders and that's it. Face it, you are useless, vermin, toilet cleaners, gardeners, despised by the white Europeans who run Mexico who know you are human garbage and encourage you to move to America. Subhuman. Vile, vulgar and violent. And you actually think you will be in charge. You will all be rounded up like the Japanese. Don't fuck with the whites. You are in way over your greezy heads. GFY
Are you not confused with the world you live in? How many times have you and your type been on Jerry Spring or Maury? You mullet wearing wife beating fools. You think you are so high and mighty. Yet you are retards from generations of drinking beer and having your mother getting beat by your obese, mullet wearing, crybaby father that live on welfare. I know your type. Let me guess, you are fat, angry, jobless if not making $10 and hour and soon to develop diabetes. You beat your women. How many times has your father beat the teeth out of your mothers mouth?

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