New signs of rising illegal immigrati...

New signs of rising illegal immigration into US

There are 645 comments on the Seattle Post-Intelligencer story from Sep 23, 2013, titled New signs of rising illegal immigration into US. In it, Seattle Post-Intelligencer reports that:

Chart shows estimates for the number of people in the U.S. illegally; 1c x 3 inches; 46.5 mm x 76 mm; Photo: AP FILE - In this June 13, 2013 file photo, US Border Patrol agent Jerry Conlin looks out over Tijuana, Mexico, behind, along the old border wall along the US - Mexico border, where it ends at the base of a hill in San Diego.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Seattle Post-Intelligencer.

Ratbastard

United States

#315 Oct 19, 2013
Puppetmaster wrote:
<quoted text>
You lie again in the first line. Cite the passage i bible for you ASSumption.
You don't get it. This person is baiting you.
And you are baiting too, masturbating that is! Stop jerking off in here and get it together, baby. We need to all hunker down and pull together but you're too busy pulling your pud.
Sheila Sanchez

United States

#316 Oct 19, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
<quoted text>
The Good book also says to obey the laws of the land. Illegal aliens are not obeying our laws by violating our immigration laws, stealing ID's to work among other crimes that many of them commit.
No, there are plenty of things relevant to me however there are things that have been brought up in here that are not relevant to our immigration laws like bringing up the crimes that "some" citizens commit as if that is some kind of justification for foreigners to violate our immigration laws. There is no obligation to "love" lawbreakers. I object to them breaking the law and they should be punished for doing so. Deportation is the punishment for breaking our immigration laws. Don't like it, tough!
Again, with the word "immigrant". This is about illegal aliens not "immigrants". I have no problem with LEGAL immigrants. What part of that aren't you getting?
So it is selfish to desire that our immigration laws be respected and enforced? WTH are you talking about? Doesn't Peru, Mexico, etc. have immigration laws also? Hypocricy, much?
WTH does your husband and all your little stories about him have to do with this? Apparently, he didn't as a citizen of this country give a damn about our immigration laws by marrying you. He may have had some positive traits but that wasn't one of them. Waving our flag while dishonoring our laws is just hypocricy. That is not a sign of patriotism. You want to inject humanism into this issue when none of that matters because as humans we are all still obligated to follow our immigration laws. Being "nice" otherwise does not exempt us from those laws.
Some of the idiotic stuff you post about baring your behind has nothing to do with the illegal immigration issue and at the very least is so adolescent that I can't even fathom why you would post such a thing. I have no further need to discuss anything with you. I feel like I am talking to a two year old and all you have are insults towards those of us who want our immigration laws honored. That is totally uncalled for. Bye.
You really are a distortionist. You claim I said all sorts of things that I did not. Besides, are you justifying refusing to love people because others are not perfect? You are responsible for folliowing the good book, regardless of whether or not immigrant do so. Second, I never pointed to crimes committed by others. Perhaps other people have in here but you don't need to make that part of your argument to me. I hate arsonists and rapists as much as I do racists and bigots. And I find it highly objectionable that you would disparage my dead husband, who died in a tragic accident, without even knowing him. He was kind and decent and sweet and gentle, even in bed. I also never said anything about baring my behind. When I bend over wearing a short dress, you can see my underwear but I never mooned anyone. So it's highly unethical of you to make wild allegations about me and then demand an end to the conversation. I may not be able to convince you to let me and my cousins stay here until our visas are approved, but that doesn't give you the right to label me or impugn my virtue. I wouldn't even make love to my husband with the lights on so I don't see where you get off accusing me of showing my butt cheeks all over the place. I do wish you a happy weekend, to show you that I am not the rotten person you think I am.
Puppetmaster

Oceanside, CA

#317 Oct 19, 2013
Sheila Sanchez wrote:
<quoted text>
You really are a distortionist. You claim I said all sorts of things that I did not. Besides, are you justifying refusing to love people because others are not perfect? You are responsible for folliowing the good book, regardless of whether or not immigrant do so. Second, I never pointed to crimes committed by others. Perhaps other people have in here but you don't need to make that part of your argument to me. I hate arsonists and rapists as much as I do racists and bigots. And I find it highly objectionable that you would disparage my dead husband, who died in a tragic accident, without even knowing him. He was kind and decent and sweet and gentle, even in bed. I also never said anything about baring my behind. When I bend over wearing a short dress, you can see my underwear but I never mooned anyone. So it's highly unethical of you to make wild allegations about me and then demand an end to the conversation. I may not be able to convince you to let me and my cousins stay here until our visas are approved, but that doesn't give you the right to label me or impugn my virtue. I wouldn't even make love to my husband with the lights on so I don't see where you get off accusing me of showing my butt cheeks all over the place. I do wish you a happy weekend, to show you that I am not the rotten person you think I am.
Ratbasard you sould have waited longer before you changed monikers. Dumbazz.
Ratbuzzard

United States

#318 Oct 19, 2013
Puppetmaster wrote:
<quoted text>
Ratbasard you sould have waited longer before you changed monikers. Dumbazz.
And you should wait longer between your jerk off sessions. You can't possibly fill a cup with the semen you like to drink unless you wait a few hours in between. Fine something else to do besides stroking for awhile!
Puppetmaster

Oceanside, CA

#319 Oct 19, 2013
Ratbuzzard wrote:
<quoted text>
And you should wait longer between your jerk off sessions. You can't possibly fill a cup with the semen you like to drink unless you wait a few hours in between. Fine something else to do besides stroking for awhile!
And they consider themselves to be the superior culture.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#320 Oct 19, 2013
Puppetmaster wrote:
<quoted text>
What race card? You don't even know if I am Hispanic, You ASSume so much. Do you hate that much that it consumes your brain?
You got asked to prove your lies and this is all you've got to come back with? You don't have to be a Hispanic to pull the race/victim card for them. I have seen many who are married to one do that or bleeding heart liberals. Where is this hate that I supposedly have and for whom? Re-read my post that you just replied to and tell me specifically where the hate is in it. But you won't, will you? All you have are your lies while disregarding what I have actually said in here. Pathetic!
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#321 Oct 19, 2013
Puppetmaster wrote:
<quoted text>
You lie again in the first line. Cite the passage i bible for you ASSumption.
You don't get it. This person is baiting you.
I lie? When are you going to own up to your own lies of claiming those of us for the rule of law aka wanting our immigration laws respected is akin to being a hater?

Here ya go. At least I prove my claims unlike you that refuse to when asked to.

Romans 13:1-7 states: "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves"
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#322 Oct 19, 2013
Puppetmaster wrote:
<quoted text>
Hispanics originated from Europe. Are you that ignorant? Has you hate cancer infected your brain?
Anything that I put in your face and ashamed to provide a response is irrelevant to an arrogant azz like you. You hate the truth. You are ashamed that you have never served this country and yet abuse the freedoms others have earned for you.
You should be ashamed because you are a parasite. A parasite infected with a hate cancer that has infected your reasoning.
Real Americans don't want you and your type. Maybe, you could move to Germany and start the Fourth Reich?
You really have a reading comprehension problem, don't you? You said that Hispanics were here before the Europeans/pilgrims and I reiterated to you that Hispanics came from Spain which is also a European country. They migrated here just like the other Europeans did. So no, they weren't here before anyone else. Your response to that above makes no sense at all so you are the ignorant one.

What hate cancer? How many times do I have to ask you whom it is that I supposedly hate? I certainly don't hate Hispanic legal immigrants or citizens. I don't even hate the illegal alien kind of Hispanic I just object to their presence here illegally as I do ALL illegal aliens. So why the insults and false accusations?

Just what is this so-called truth that I am ignoring? Why do you refuse to answer any of my questions but just hurl unwarranted insults instead?

Um, I served in our military during the Viet Nam war and my life was in danger many times. You were saying/ Assuming? How dare you!

I'm a parasite? I worked for over 50 years and paid taxes and contributed to my country and even do volunteer work in my retirement. Yet I am a parasite? How dare you!

I am not a Nazi if that is what you are insinuating so why would I move to Germany? Real Americans don't want me here? Who are these people that you call real Americans? If they are anything like you then no they aren't real Americans. They are hateful, anti-American POS like you! Go to hell. I'm through listening to your filthy mouth and reading your filthy garbage. Don't bother to respond to me because you won't answer any of my questions anyway and you are nothing but a hateful, childish liar and I won't read any more replies from you. Bye!!!
Puppetmaster

Oceanside, CA

#323 Oct 19, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
<quoted text>
You really have a reading comprehension problem, don't you? You said that Hispanics were here before the Europeans/pilgrims and I reiterated to you that Hispanics came from Spain which is also a European country. They migrated here just like the other Europeans did. So no, they weren't here before anyone else. Your response to that above makes no sense at all so you are the ignorant one.
What hate cancer? How many times do I have to ask you whom it is that I supposedly hate? I certainly don't hate Hispanic legal immigrants or citizens. I don't even hate the illegal alien kind of Hispanic I just object to their presence here illegally as I do ALL illegal aliens. So why the insults and false accusations?
Just what is this so-called truth that I am ignoring? Why do you refuse to answer any of my questions but just hurl unwarranted insults instead?
Um, I served in our military during the Viet Nam war and my life was in danger many times. You were saying/ Assuming? How dare you!
I'm a parasite? I worked for over 50 years and paid taxes and contributed to my country and even do volunteer work in my retirement. Yet I am a parasite? How dare you!
I am not a Nazi if that is what you are insinuating so why would I move to Germany? Real Americans don't want me here? Who are these people that you call real Americans? If they are anything like you then no they aren't real Americans. They are hateful, anti-American POS like you! Go to hell. I'm through listening to your filthy mouth and reading your filthy garbage. Don't bother to respond to me because you won't answer any of my questions anyway and you are nothing but a hateful, childish liar and I won't read any more replies from you. Bye!!!
The Spanish were here before the pilgrims.

You never served you are a traitor and liar.

You are a lying hate cancer that needs to leave America.

Real Americans don't want you. Leave now.
Puppetmaster

Oceanside, CA

#324 Oct 19, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
<quoted text>
I lie? When are you going to own up to your own lies of claiming those of us for the rule of law aka wanting our immigration laws respected is akin to being a hater?
Here ya go. At least I prove my claims unlike you that refuse to when asked to.
Romans 13:1-7 states: "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves"
Where does it say United States of America laws? See you lie again. The laws were established by man NOT God. God did not write the Constitution. Are you serious?
Puppetmaster

Oceanside, CA

#325 Oct 19, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
<quoted text>
You got asked to prove your lies and this is all you've got to come back with? You don't have to be a Hispanic to pull the race/victim card for them. I have seen many who are married to one do that or bleeding heart liberals. Where is this hate that I supposedly have and for whom? Re-read my post that you just replied to and tell me specifically where the hate is in it. But you won't, will you? All you have are your lies while disregarding what I have actually said in here. Pathetic!
Even when you try to patronize your post reeks of hate. You spin and lie.
Level 1

Since: Oct 13

Location hidden

#326 Oct 20, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
<quoted text>
Since when is the truth an insult?
You should know. It's an insult when the truth isn't sugar coated and your beliefs are proven to be wrong.

Having to admit when you're wrong is a hard pill to swallow.

That's why some people get censored, they dish out the un-sugar coated truth, someone feels offended and reports abuse.

You should know exactly how the truth can be an insult. You've been wrong and you were proven wrong. How did you feel? Tell us, how did YOU feel?
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#327 Oct 20, 2013
Daemon wrote:
<quoted text>
You should know. It's an insult when the truth isn't sugar coated and your beliefs are proven to be wrong.
Having to admit when you're wrong is a hard pill to swallow.
That's why some people get censored, they dish out the un-sugar coated truth, someone feels offended and reports a935buse.
You should know exactly how the truth can be an insult. You've been wrong and you were proven wrong. How did you feel? Tell us, how did YOU feel?
I feel just fine. The idiot I no longer reply to wouldn't answer a single question that I posed of him. Why was that? I'll tell you why he couldn't stand the truth so all he had were insults and twisting of my words. You seem to be cut from the same adolescent cloth.

Where was I proven wrong? I wasn't. You're just like him a pro-illegal sympathizer who doesn't give a damn about American citizens. You know deep inside that you are on the wrong side of this issue and have been caught at your own racism so you try to project your own racism back on me when I have said NOTHING that was racist. You'll be another childish idiot that I will ignore from now on. Bye, anti-American POS!
Puppetmaster

Oceanside, CA

#328 Oct 20, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
<quoted text>
I feel just fine. The idiot I no longer reply to wouldn't answer a single question that I posed of him. Why was that? I'll tell you why he couldn't stand the truth so all he had were insults and twisting of my words. You seem to be cut from the same adolescent cloth.
Where was I proven wrong? I wasn't. You're just like him a pro-illegal sympathizer who doesn't give a damn about American citizens. You know deep inside that you are on the wrong side of this issue and have been caught at your own racism so you try to project your own racism back on me when I have said NOTHING that was racist. You'll be another childish idiot that I will ignore from now on. Bye, anti-American POS!
You can't ignore the truth. You are a liar and clearly a hate cancer. May your hate consume you.
Level 1

Since: Oct 13

Location hidden

#329 Oct 20, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
<quoted text>
...You know deep inside that you are on the wrong side of this issue and have been caught at your own racism so you try to project your own racism back on me when I have said NOTHING that was racist. You'll be another childish idiot that I will ignore from now on. Bye, anti-American POS!
I've been caught at my own racism and am projecting on to you? And you resort to name calling and go into denial by not wanting to reply to me anymore. Great, that's very mature.

The real reason you don't want to reply to me anymore is because you know I'll prove you wrong.

But is the name calling really necessary?
Lupe Alvarez

United States

#330 Oct 21, 2013
One thing that has not been pointed out at all in this thread is the children of immigrants. I agree with the sentiments of those who say the laws should be enforced because none of us wants chaos or anarchy. However, a civilized society can balance the needs of law enforcement with the needs of innocent children. When parents are deported, the children are forced to grow up as orphans. Yes, conditions have improved for them since the days of Oliver Twist, but children need their parents to nurture and train them. Perhaps we can work out a compromises which allows those who immigrated here without papers to stay and raise their kids while we deport all the single people, who have no reason to stay here any longer. I see that as a win/win we all can be excited about.
POS

Netherlands

#331 Oct 21, 2013
Lupe Alvarez wrote:
One thing that has not been pointed out at all in this thread is the children of immigrants. I agree with the sentiments of those who say the laws should be enforced because none of us wants chaos or anarchy. However, a civilized society can balance the needs of law enforcement with the needs of innocent children. When parents are deported, the children are forced to grow up as orphans. Yes, conditions have improved for them since the days of Oliver Twist, but children need their parents to nurture and train them. Perhaps we can work out a compromises which allows those who immigrated here without papers to stay and raise their kids while we deport all the single people, who have no reason to stay here any longer. I see that as a win/win we all can be excited about.
Allowing one to stay and another go, ever thou both have broken a Federal law is wrong. All need to go back to the Country that they came from, even the children. When the child has become of legal age, they can return. The family members must go through proper channels to re-enter the USA legally. Also they must pay a fine for entering the USA illegally in the past, they broke the law. Even as citizens of the USA, any laws we break, as little as traffic violation we must pay the fine for what we have done wrong. Undocumented, Illegal is the same thing. Their parents willfully broke the law of the USA, and the children are not every citizens responsibility for what the parents did wrong. Get caught violating another countries Immigration Laws and see what will happen to you.
HOLLA ISABELLA

Ardsley, NY

#332 Oct 21, 2013
Lupe Alvarez wrote:
One thing that has not been pointed out at all in this thread is the children of immigrants. I agree with the sentiments of those who say the laws should be enforced because none of us wants chaos or anarchy. However, a civilized society can balance the needs of law enforcement with the needs of innocent children. When parents are deported, the children are forced to grow up as orphans. Yes, conditions have improved for them since the days of Oliver Twist, but children need their parents to nurture and train them. Perhaps we can work out a compromises which allows those who immigrated here without papers to stay and raise their kids while we deport all the single people, who have no reason to stay here any longer. I see that as a win/win we all can be excited about.
Illegal aliens are subhuman criminals, liars, thieves and cheats. Leeches who violated the sovereignty of the US, ignore our laws and who falsely believe they are entitled to all of the benefits of full citizenship simply because they crossed the border. Their attitude toward their children is not the same as that of Americans: they have children to qualify for welfare and hope they will be their ticket to remain in the US. These anchor bastards grow up to be greedy, self-centered Dreamers who are even more obnoxious than their parents. The wet backs and their anchor bastards claim any opposition to their fantasy of remaining in the US is racism. If parents are deported, their anchor bastards should leave with them. Who cares whether they are happy or not. Round up all illegals, men, women and children, treat them rudely, put them on un-air conditioned buses and deport them. They get to take one suitcase each. The rest of their property is confiscated as gains from illegal activities. I WANT THESE VERMIN OUT OF MY COUNTRY. Lupe, if you are US citizen of hispanic origin who puts the wants of illegal alien scum above those of your fellow Americans, you are a TRAITOR. In any case, your post is bullshit. GFY.
Lupe Alvarez

United States

#333 Oct 21, 2013
POS wrote:
<quoted text>
Allowing one to stay and another go, ever thou both have broken a Federal law is wrong. All need to go back to the Country that they came from, even the children. When the child has become of legal age, they can return. The family members must go through proper channels to re-enter the USA legally. Also they must pay a fine for entering the USA illegally in the past, they broke the law. Even as citizens of the USA, any laws we break, as little as traffic violation we must pay the fine for what we have done wrong. Undocumented, Illegal is the same thing. Their parents willfully broke the law of the USA, and the children are not every citizens responsibility for what the parents did wrong. Get caught violating another countries Immigration Laws and see what will happen to you.
How are other countries laws relevant to ours on this or any issue? Why not stone people for adultery then? Or imprison people who are homosexual? Or require military service for all 18 year olds? Or guarantee 8 weeks vacation for all workers? Your points are all moot because you're intellectually dishonest and morally bankrupt.
Maria Molina

United States

#334 Oct 21, 2013
HOLLA ISABELLA wrote:
<quoted text>
Illegal aliens are subhuman criminals, liars, thieves and cheats. Leeches who violated the sovereignty of the US, ignore our laws and who falsely believe they are entitled to all of the benefits of full citizenship simply because they crossed the border. Their attitude toward their children is not the same as that of Americans: they have children to qualify for welfare and hope they will be their ticket to remain in the US. These anchor bastards grow up to be greedy, self-centered Dreamers who are even more obnoxious than their parents. The wet backs and their anchor bastards claim any opposition to their fantasy of remaining in the US is racism. If parents are deported, their anchor bastards should leave with them. Who cares whether they are happy or not. Round up all illegals, men, women and children, treat them rudely, put them on un-air conditioned buses and deport them. They get to take one suitcase each. The rest of their property is confiscated as gains from illegal activities. I WANT THESE VERMIN OUT OF MY COUNTRY. Lupe, if you are US citizen of hispanic origin who puts the wants of illegal alien scum above those of your fellow Americans, you are a TRAITOR. In any case, your post is bullshit. GFY.
Thanks to you and all the taxpayers for paying for my healthcare, food benefits, child's college tuition, daughter's abortion of unwanted baby, new smartphone, big screen TV and bus pass that I get for free. I love it here and wouldn't leave for anything. If you're dissatisfied with this, I suggest you move since I am entitled to all these things per the Obama administration.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Immigration Reform Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News If Donald Trump Was President, Here's What Woul... (Oct '15) 3 min Nopal 8,749
News Trump: Illegal immigrants treated better than v... 9 min Nopal 21
Rose's Pub (Mar '10) 13 min Nopal 141,197
News Trump Isn't Bluffing, He'll Deport 11 Million P... 26 min Nopal 1,156
When Does Anti-Immigration Go Too Far? (Sep '15) 31 min Nopal 453
News Donald Trump breaks with nation's only Latina g... 1 hr Nopal 223
News Denied licenses, immigrants plan march across R... 2 hr wild child 1
More from around the web