Illegal alien charged with killing to...

Illegal alien charged with killing toddler in North Carolina

There are 54 comments on the examiner.com story from Mar 18, 2013, titled Illegal alien charged with killing toddler in North Carolina. In it, examiner.com reports that:

On Saturday, police in Charlotte arrested Oscar Francisco Garcia-Fuentes, 23, after he reportedly ran through a stoplight and rammed his 2001 Ford Mustang into another vehicle, resulting in the death of two people, including an 18-month-old boy.

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American citizen

Evansville, IN

#25 Mar 20, 2013
American Lady wrote:
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The illegals that are working typically are not the ones committing the felonies...said American citizen ...
The "illegals" ARE committing a CRIME just by being HERE!
That's where the TERM "illegal" come in!
Meaning NOT "legal" ...
You NEED to invest in you a dictionary, before you GO any farther of inserting FOOT into MOUTH!
I do believe I said they had committed a crime by being here.
American citizen

Evansville, IN

#26 Mar 20, 2013
tomin cali wrote:
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the drug cartels can say the same thing,selling dope helps their family have a better life and slaughter folks gets rid of their competitors . and those cartels people do regular jobs here to not draw attention.
Anyone can say anything to twist the words of others. If you want to get right down to the point besides just my opinions on the matter we can not afford to ship everyone back to their homeland. The border has failed miserably and this is the government finally admitting they have not done their job to secure our border. I am not for open borders, but I do see that 11 million(more probably) are here and the only option we can afford is to give them a probationary period( which they have to pay for) to become members of our society. In this long extensive process we will essentially weed out those who are not willing to become productive members of our country. I do believe the government needs to make extreme efforts to further secure our failing borders in this messy process as well though and make an effort to help sway Mexico to provide a better life for their citizens so they will not need to cross borders to have a better life. If the government does not take ahold of the border situation we will continue to have this problem over and over again, which has already been the case.

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#27 Mar 20, 2013
American citizen wrote:
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Anyone can say anything to twist the words of others. If you want to get right down to the point besides just my opinions on the matter we can not afford to ship everyone back to their homeland. The border has failed miserably and this is the government finally admitting they have not done their job to secure our border. I am not for open borders, but I do see that 11 million(more probably) are here and the only option we can afford is to give them a probationary period( which they have to pay for) to become members of our society. In this long extensive process we will essentially weed out those who are not willing to become productive members of our country. I do believe the government needs to make extreme efforts to further secure our failing borders in this messy process as well though and make an effort to help sway Mexico to provide a better life for their citizens so they will not need to cross borders to have a better life. If the government does not take ahold of the border situation we will continue to have this problem over and over again, which has already been the case.
we cannot afford to deport of lock them all up, yet it will cost us nothing to make life here for all illegal aliens so harsh they leave on their own. all that would take is enforce our laws.

as for helping mexico we already have, just look at all the companies who left here and opened there do to shafta. just about everything in mexico of value came from here screwing over the citizens here who lost jobs and what not.

we have done far to much for them its time to think and do only for American citizens.
American citizen

Evansville, IN

#28 Mar 20, 2013
tomin cali wrote:
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we cannot afford to deport of lock them all up, yet it will cost us nothing to make life here for all illegal aliens so harsh they leave on their own. all that would take is enforce our laws.
as for helping mexico we already have, just look at all the companies who left here and opened there do to shafta. just about everything in mexico of value came from here screwing over the citizens here who lost jobs and what not.
we have done far to much for them its time to think and do only for American citizens.
My father was laid off due to his company being transferring to Mexico. That being said I do not blame Mexicans though, I believe it has to do with large companies not wanting to pay a fair price for labor. If companies move to Mexico or other low wage countries they are able to triple their profits. If all countries required a better wage for thier employees we would see less companies shafting our country and going elsewhere for a bigger profit.

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#31 Mar 20, 2013
Teumessian Fox wrote:
<quoted text> The "argument" that we can't afford to ship them all out is bogus. I have never heard a single person claim that we could. It obviously takes a multi angle approach with a full court press. Being enforcing our laws, funding LEO and untie BP's hands. Self deportation will begin pretty quickly. Start raiding and actually punishing illegal alien employers and their employees and begin to solve that portion too. We all get the idea. Build the fense, secure the boarders.
Our laws have not failed, our government has failed to enforce our laws.
the last sentence shows the whole cause.the same thing will happen again do to the same issue,not willing to enforce all the laws.
walkundertheinfl uence

Virginia Beach, VA

#32 Mar 20, 2013
American citizen wrote:
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When we see a person steal a a loaf of bread our first instinct is to condemn them for their theft. Yet, if we see the full picture of a father taking this bread to a child going hungry people typically have humanity kick in and forgive the crime.
And for the bread seller who now takes the loss? You know, the one running a business to keep HIS children from going hungry?

Oh yeah, we don't care about him - probably a heartless greedy capitalist anyways.
American citizen

Evansville, IN

#34 Mar 20, 2013
walkundertheinfluence wrote:
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And for the bread seller who now takes the loss? You know, the one running a business to keep HIS children from going hungry?
Oh yeah, we don't care about him - probably a heartless greedy capitalist anyways.
I want to thank you bringing that up. I think everyone has to sacrifice for the greater good at some point. If everyone would live by the rule that for every good deed received one should be done the world would be a better place. I said the WORLD not just America. People have become to wrapped up in the immediate effect something has on them and not what the long term effect it has on others.
walkundertheinfl uence

Virginia Beach, VA

#35 Mar 20, 2013
American citizen wrote:
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I want to thank you bringing that up. I think everyone has to sacrifice for the greater good at some point. If everyone would live by the rule that for every good deed received one should be done the world would be a better place. I said the WORLD not just America. People have become to wrapped up in the immediate effect something has on them and not what the long term effect it has on others.
So a victim of theft is merely sacrificing for the greater good?

That's absurd!
American citizen

Evansville, IN

#36 Mar 20, 2013
walkundertheinfluence wrote:
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So a victim of theft is merely sacrificing for the greater good?
That's absurd!
You are missing the vital piece of the puzzle. The why of anything can make all the difference in the world. I'm not saying if your house is broken into, your car is stolen, or your wallet taken is OK by any means. Yet, the why once answered may sway my judgement in many situations.

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#37 Mar 20, 2013
walkundertheinfluence wrote:
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So a victim of theft is merely sacrificing for the greater good?
That's absurd!
the greater good means stealing for one to give to others. kind of like citizens without jobs yet then call for more people.

the greater good should only be worried about when here for the citizens of this country,no one else should be a priority when your own is going down.

what good is a country thattruns against its own citizens. kind of like starving your own kids to feed others.
American citizen

Evansville, IN

#38 Mar 20, 2013
'Illegal Immigration'
A Honduran man left his kids and wife
To give them all a better life
Of no more hunger, no more thirst
No more waiting on misery to spread worse
On an 18 wheeler, he sneaks a ride
For days on in he hopes and hides
Riding through America, land of the free
Turned out nothing like it seemed to be
For when he ran off after the truck stopped today
He found himself as a hopeless stray
He can’t get a job since he has an illegal name
And he won’t accept food since he’s so ashamed
The government, they won’t take him back
They say it’s too much money for them to stack
So, what of this man do you blame him at all?
The courage he held as he tried to stand tall
What would you have done to stop your families cries?
How far would you have went to stop hunger in your children’s eyes?
Would you go to the next country or two
To try and find something there for you
We have to look at him with our eyes and tears
And tell him we can’t help him here
Around the corner, he disappears
Why can’t we help him here?
A Honduran man left his kids and wife
To give them all a better life…
Whitney Albright
walkundertheinfl uence

Virginia Beach, VA

#39 Mar 20, 2013
American citizen wrote:
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You are missing the vital piece of the puzzle. The why of anything can make all the difference in the world. I'm not saying if your house is broken into, your car is stolen, or your wallet taken is OK by any means. Yet, the why once answered may sway my judgement in many situations.
The "why" of anything probably means very little to the theft victim.

I guess since he is now struggling as a result of theft he is OK to "pay it forward" and steal from others himself?
walkundertheinfl uence

Virginia Beach, VA

#40 Mar 20, 2013
American citizen wrote:
'Illegal Immigration'
A Honduran man left his kids and wife
To give them all a better life
Of no more hunger, no more thirst
No more waiting on misery to spread worse
On an 18 wheeler, he sneaks a ride
For days on in he hopes and hides
Riding through America, land of the free
Turned out nothing like it seemed to be
For when he ran off after the truck stopped today
He found himself as a hopeless stray
He can’t get a job since he has an illegal name
And he won’t accept food since he’s so ashamed
The government, they won’t take him back
They say it’s too much money for them to stack
So, what of this man do you blame him at all?
The courage he held as he tried to stand tall
What would you have done to stop your families cries?
How far would you have went to stop hunger in your children’s eyes?
Would you go to the next country or two
To try and find something there for you
We have to look at him with our eyes and tears
And tell him we can’t help him here
Around the corner, he disappears
Why can’t we help him here?
A Honduran man left his kids and wife
To give them all a better life…
Whitney Albright
He broke the law, let's keep it real
So I guess it's OK for him to steal?
American citizen

Evansville, IN

#42 Mar 20, 2013
walkundertheinfluence wrote:
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He broke the law, let's keep it real
So I guess it's OK for him to steal?
Not all laws are RIGHT . Ghandi and Martin Luther king broke laws to try to go for what they knew was right and in the end changed the world for the better. Theft in general was not where I was trying to go with my discussion, but you have leeched on to that piece of my argument when there was the broader point I was trying to get across.
walkundertheinfl uence

Virginia Beach, VA

#43 Mar 20, 2013
American citizen wrote:
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Not all laws are RIGHT . Ghandi and Martin Luther king broke laws to try to go for what they knew was right and in the end changed the world for the better. Theft in general was not where I was trying to go with my discussion, but you have leeched on to that piece of my argument when there was the broader point I was trying to get across.
Did Ghandi and MLK change the world for the better by advocating theft? LOL

Next time you should maybe use better examples to get your "broader point" across!
American citizen

Evansville, IN

#44 Mar 20, 2013
walkundertheinfluence wrote:
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Did Ghandi and MLK change the world for the better by advocating theft? LOL
Next time you should maybe use better examples to get your "broader point" across!
I am sorry that you did not see passed the word theft.

“The most fatal illusion is the settled point of view. Since life is growth and motion, a fixed point of view kills anybody who has one.”
&#8213; Brooks Atkinson

I wish you luck in the expanding of your mind and others views which are not your own.
walkundertheinfl uence

Virginia Beach, VA

#46 Mar 20, 2013
American citizen wrote:
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I am sorry that you did not see passed the word theft.
“The most fatal illusion is the settled point of view. Since life is growth and motion, a fixed point of view kills anybody who has one.”
&#8213; Brooks Atkinson
I wish you luck in the expanding of your mind and others views which are not your own.
It's not the word theft that got me.

It was your assertion that theft is either a) a victimless crime justified by the needs of the thief OR b) a "sacrifice for the greater good"

If you have a problem with someone zeroing in on one of your arguments, maybe you should consider them more carefully before sharing with others.......

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#47 Mar 20, 2013
American citizen wrote:
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I am sorry that you did not see passed the word theft.
“The most fatal illusion is the settled point of view. Since life is growth and motion, a fixed point of view kills anybody who has one.”
&#8213; Brooks Atkinson
I wish you luck in the expanding of your mind and others views which are not your own.
How about you expand your point of view to include a few words of wisdom from Jesus Christ?

“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber."
American citizen

Evansville, IN

#48 Mar 20, 2013
Bama Yankee wrote:
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How about you expand your point of view to include a few words of wisdom from Jesus Christ?
“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber."
John 3:17
But whoever has the world's goods, and beholds his brother in need and closes his heart against him, how does the love of God abide in him?
John 15:12 “This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you…”

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Since: Apr 08

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#51 Mar 20, 2013
American citizen wrote:
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John 3:17
But whoever has the world's goods, and beholds his brother in need and closes his heart against him, how does the love of God abide in him?
John 15:12 “This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you…”
Charity begins at home.

They can all go home and steal from their own.

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