Obamacare: Californians will pay 10th highest rates in country under health exchange

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TOPSHOTS US President Barack Obama listens to President Michel Sleiman of Lebanon speaking to the media before a bilateral meeting on the sideline of the 68th United Nations General Assembly at the UN in New York on September 24, 2013.

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#290 Oct 12, 2013
I think the CBO should go back to the drawing room and recalculate the numbers, because Obama gave waivers and exemptions to many groups via Executive Order AFTER the initial stats.

If the CBO recalculates, I'm sure the costs will go way up, since millions of ppl have been exempted by Obama. This is going to be a real sticker shock.

A new recalculation, I believe strongly, is in order.

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#291 Oct 13, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
The ACA also requires coverage for black people and red people and old people. I know it's difficult for you. PS: the highest cost is in WYOMING.
We're discussing California's new law forcing insurance pools to cover infertility treatments for same sex couples and single people; do you approve? This has nothing to do with age or race, this issue is morality and the left's war on the traditional family.

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#292 Oct 13, 2013
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
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Wrong again Crapola. There are different sects of the Amish religion just as there are different sects of the Hebrew, Catholic and Muslim religions. There are as many as eight different subgroups of Amish with most belonging, in ascending order of conservatism, to the Beachy Amish, New Order, Old Order, or Swartzentruber Amish sects.
As for picketing I work for a living so I don't have the time to hang out like you but I have personally spoken to Dent about the subject of illegal immigration. Have you?
Scratch and Dent represents the nutjobs in the Lehigh Valley. Thanks for showing your membership card, A-mish. Now, hitch the team and get back to the fields.

hahahahahahahahaha
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#294 Oct 13, 2013
Thank you Obama for Obamacare, now I get to pay an extra $150 more on my healthcare premium for your wonderful program Can life get any better?

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#295 Oct 13, 2013
Purple Independent wrote:
I think the CBO should go back to the drawing room and recalculate the numbers, because Obama gave waivers and exemptions to many groups via Executive Order AFTER the initial stats.
Really?

Do show us these "executive orders" exempting (you say) millions.

Putting aside ACA is law and if you want to change the law- and this is the tricky party for the tea bagged to understand- you change the law through the legislative process that has worked for 240 years.

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#296 Oct 13, 2013
jack wrote:
Thank you Obama for Obamacare, now I get to pay an extra $150 more on my healthcare premium for your wonderful program Can life get any better?
Prove it.

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#297 Oct 13, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>We're discussing California's new law forcing insurance pools to cover infertility treatments for same sex couples and single people; do you approve?
Do you approve of "infertility treatments" for white people? Black people? Mixed races?

Do list which groups you want to discriminate against.

Besides women, of course.
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#298 Oct 13, 2013
conservative crapola wrote:
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Scratch and Dent represents the nutjobs in the Lehigh Valley. Thanks for showing your membership card, A-mish. Now, hitch the team and get back to the fields.
hahahahahahahahaha
So now I am a nut job because I actually express my views directly to politicians. I guess I could just be a loser like you who anonymously sling insults at people on the internet. ha ha ha ha.

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#300 Oct 13, 2013
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
I guess I could just be a loser like you who anonymously sling insults at people on the internet. ha ha ha ha.
so says the thirteen anonymous incarnation of BottleQueen who needs to rotate aliases to stay in front of the Topix ban...
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#301 Oct 13, 2013
Purple Independent wrote:
I think the CBO should go back to the drawing room and recalculate the numbers, because Obama gave waivers and exemptions to many groups via Executive Order AFTER the initial stats.
If the CBO recalculates, I'm sure the costs will go way up, since millions of ppl have been exempted by Obama. This is going to be a real sticker shock.
A new recalculation, I believe strongly, is in order.
Your absolutely right, but it isn't going to happen. This is all part of the intentional deception they use to mislead the American people.

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#303 Oct 13, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
Do you approve of "infertility treatments" for white people? Black people? Mixed races?
Yes, race is unimportant to fertility.

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barefoot2626 wrote:
Do list which groups you want to discriminate against.
Gender isn't insignificant when it comes to fertility. I don't make these laws, nature does.

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barefoot2626 wrote:
Besides women, of course.
Women are wonderful, I'm for women. Why do you ask? What does race have to do with healthcare or single's infertility treatment?

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#304 Oct 13, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, race is unimportant to fertility.
I think you lie- having already established you as a liar.

I think it would really stick in your craw knowing insurance money was going to make more brown babies.

We already know how you feel about insurance money going to help women who are lesbians have babies.

And how you feel about gay men having fertility help.

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#305 Oct 13, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Gender isn't insignificant when it comes to fertility. I don't make these laws, nature does.
Nature makes some men and some women infertile.

A little slow today, bigot?

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#306 Oct 13, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
What does race have to do with healthcare or single's infertility treatment?
What does martial status have to do with fertility, bigot?

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#307 Oct 13, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
What does race have to do with healthcare or single's infertility treatment?
I am a 23 year old single male who just had a health exam. Part of my exam reveals that I am not fertile.

This is a health condition that I would like to correct.

And you insist I do not have the right to have treatment, even though I pay the exact same rates as you.

That's how it works, bigot.

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#308 Oct 14, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
I think you lie- having already established you as a liar.
I see my political opponents as mistaken, not liars.

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barefoot2626 wrote:
I think it would really stick in your craw knowing insurance money was going to make more brown babies.
^^^I think these are the words of a sick racist.

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barefoot2626 wrote:
We already know how you feel about insurance money going to help women who are lesbians have babies.
I oppose government mandates to force insurance pools to provide fertility treatments to same sex couples and singles. We're not really discussing health insurance, we're discussing a radical change in government's relation to family.

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barefoot2626 wrote:
And how you feel about gay men having fertility help.
What does this mean: "men having fertility help"? Insurance payments to surrogate mothers? We're now discussing converting motherhood into a market job.

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#309 Oct 14, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
Nature makes some men and some women infertile.
And every same sex couple is infertile, that's the point. We're not discussing healthcare, this is radical social change.

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A little slow today, bigot?
^^^He admits it.

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#310 Oct 14, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
What does martial status have to do with fertility, bigot?
We used to encourage couples to marry and provide their own resources before starting families; now single women and same sex couples are treated the same as married husbands and wives in California.

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#311 Oct 14, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
I am a 23 year old single male who just had a health exam. Part of my exam reveals that I am not fertile. This is a health condition that I would like to correct. And you insist I do not have the right to have treatment, even though I pay the exact same rates as you. That's how it works, bigot.
You're insurance pool should pay for a surrogate mother?

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#312 Oct 14, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>I see my political opponents as mistaken, not liars.
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I see people who repeat lies they know are lies as liars, without regard to the politics or what side the comb their hair.

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