Obamacare: Californians will pay 10th highest rates in country under health exchange

Sep 26, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Daily Democrat

TOPSHOTS US President Barack Obama listens to President Michel Sleiman of Lebanon speaking to the media before a bilateral meeting on the sideline of the 68th United Nations General Assembly at the UN in New York on September 24, 2013.

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Memo From Turner wrote:
Some groups requested waivers. The right wing jumped all over this and also demanded the waivers. Obama listened to them and granted the waivers. Now the right wing is outraged the waivers they demanded were indeed granted. The Republicans pushed for the waivers. Are you now saying it was unlawful for them to do that?
Not waivers, Obama delayed the employer mandate on companies with 50-100 employees. Even Obama is for delaying the ACA.

Delay, defund and repeal.

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Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Those "new enrollees" are mostly for Medicare
Don't care.
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<quoted text>Not waivers, Obama delayed the employer mandate on companies with 50-100 employees. Even Obama is for delaying the ACA.
Delay, defund and repeal.
How do you think they delayed the employer mandate? Some trade groups asked for a a waiver, the right wing jumped all over it and Obama gave them what they asked for.

Delay? Obama granted a waiver to allow a delay for the employer mandate and this makes you angry. Now you want more delays? WTF?

Defund? What is the point? Forgetting for a minute that it is impossible, It is still a law. How silly.

Repeal? Yes throw millions of people back to the wolves. Nice.
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How do you think they delayed the employer mandate? Some trade groups asked for a a waiver, the right wing jumped all over it and Obama gave them what they asked for.
Delay? Obama granted a waiver to allow a delay for the employer mandate and this makes you angry. Now you want more delays? WTF?
Defund? What is the point? Forgetting for a minute that it is impossible, It is still a law. How silly.
Repeal? Yes throw millions of people back to the wolves. Nice.
Millions of people will be thrown to the wolves anyway.The cbo says after the law is fully implemented there will still be 30 million without insurance.27 seperate delays,this law will never fully go into effect.It is an embarrassment.Even Kristen powers stated she was tired of trying to defend this law.You clowns keep on making asses of yourselfs.
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<quoted text>Millions of people will be thrown to the wolves anyway.The cbo says after the law is fully implemented there will still be 30 million without insurance.27 seperate delays,this law will never fully go into effect.It is an embarrassment.Even Kristen powers stated she was tired of trying to defend this law.You clowns keep on making asses of yourselfs.
Strangely they have yet to find any of these people who are "being thrown to the wolves".

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<quoted text>Millions of people will be thrown to the wolves anyway..
Tell us about the sky!!!

Is it still falling?

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The cbo says after the law is fully implemented there will still be 30 million without insurance..
10 million have insurance today right now that didn't have it last year.

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Most of those "newly insured" are new Medicare and Medicaid enrollees, they don't have private insurance. The ACA has voided more insurance plans than its issued.

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Don't care.
So, in addition to taking Medicare funds to pay for the ACA, its increased Medicare spending for people who can't buy private insurance and must now depend on government entitlements.

Repeal Obamacare; even Obama agrees it should be delayed.

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10 million have insurance today right now that didn't have it last year.
How many have actually paid for their first month of coverage? Come on, show us the proof of how many t might have are ACTUALLY COVERED, not how many that signed up. There is a bit of a difference.

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S/B: show us the proof of how many that might have paId, and are ACTUALLY...

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Most of those "newly insured"r
They are insured.

They were not insured a month ago.

That is what it means, dipsh!t.

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The ACA has voided more insurance plans than its issued.
An insurance plan that does not meet the standards is not an insurance plan.

You are not much of a deep thinker.

If my state requires 50K liability on car insurance, I could probably get a better deal on 25K liability but it would not be legal.

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<quoted text>How many have actually paid for their first month of coverage?.
Why should I care?

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Why should I care?
Which tanslates that you have no proof to back up your claim.

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<quoted text>Which tanslates that you have no proof to back up your claim.
Which ' tanslates' to you are full of cr@p.

Wipe your chin, Skanque.
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If only the truth were known--

Most Americans have never been exposed to schemes such as this, nor do they have any idea of how gubment run health care really functions in the real world. Simple fact of the matter is, efficiency, quality and cost containment NEVER comes from government running anything!

The following is a precursor of what will happen when this scam of controlling our lives and one sixth of our economy is allowed to continue in completing the destruction of America as we know it.

Note: The following examples are countries that have embraced a "single payer" system that this president and his surrogates are directing their efforts towards:

http://rt.com/news/uk-nhs-health-crisis-049/

http://rt.com/news/uk-health-deterioration-nh...

http://rt.com/news/hospital-cover-up-uk-190/

The 'Father' of (single payer) CANADIAN health care admits its a Failure!!
http://civitasreview.com/healthcare/father-of... ;

"For example, Angus Reid, a well-respected Canadian pollster, asked Canadians to rate their health care system. When they started doing this polling in 1991, a clear majority of Canadians gave the system top marks: excellent or very good. Last year, when they did the poll again, under one in four gave the system that rating.
Angus Reid has done other polls as well. A year and a half ago, a poll sent shock waves across the country when 73 percent of Canadians described their health care system as being "in crisis." Reid actually went back and redid the poll six months later: 78 percent of Canadians now thought the system was in crisis"

(Quoted in part from: http://www.heritage.org/research/lecture/buye... )

In SWEDEN their dumping 'Single Payer' Nanny State run health care for the private Insurance market. And for good reasons--"Sweden is often looked upon by liberals and statists as a shining beacon of what all countries should aspire towards"..
http://lionsofliberty.com/2014/01/22/swedes-r...

"SWEDEN'S Single-Payer Health System Provides a Warning to Other Nations -- by David Hogberg, Ph.D."
http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA555_Sweden_H...

"Gammon's Law"--
Gammon's Law is what Milton Friedman has named the "Theory of Bureaucratic Displacement" developed by Dr Max Gammon after studying the British National Health Service. In his words, in "a bureaucratic system … increase in expenditure will be matched by fall in production …." Such systems will act rather like 'black holes' in the economic universe, simultaneously sucking in resources, and shrinking in terms of 'emitted' production. down."[1]

Grab your ankles, you poor dumb saps!!!
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<quoted text>Which tanslates that you have no proof to back up your claim.
Why should he care? It was an asinine post that did not mean anything.

Demanding answers to "How many have actually paid for their first month of coverage?" Who cares? It is just more of your nonsense.

How many people paid their electric bill last month? Should we be shutting down of the power plants in the country until you get an answer?
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Tell us about the sky!!!
Is it still falling?
Ask some of your GW nutjobs buddies,they'll tell it is.
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10 million have insurance today right now that didn't have it last year.
So you actually listen to turbin durbin?

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