Obamacare: Californians will pay 10th highest rates in country under health exchange

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ima-Ilis Myka Ashanti

El Paso, TX

#1 Sep 26, 2013
want to make a bet they won't? remember they're bankrupt and the people will claim they can't afford it so that means the rest of the states will bail them out and who will bail out the other states like New Mexico? NM is the poorest state in the nation, all their people get some form of gov. help food stamps, medicaid, etc. including education to those who can make it across the rio for it for example Deming and who know how many other border towns including EP. There was a news story about this last week, I believe.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#2 Sep 26, 2013
"The rates, however, will be lower for poor and middle-income people who qualify for the federal subsidies."

This should read;
"The rates, however, will be lower for poor and middle-income people who qualify for the tax payer provided subsidies."
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#3 Sep 26, 2013
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
"The rates, however, will be lower for poor and middle-income people who qualify for the federal subsidies."
This should read;
"The rates, however, will be lower for poor and middle-income people who qualify for the tax payer provided subsidies."
I bet you also piss and moan when people without insurance go to the emergency room.
The Sin City Cat

Fond Du Lac, WI

#4 Sep 26, 2013
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
"The rates, however, will be lower for poor and middle-income people who qualify for the federal subsidies."
This should read;
"The rates, however, will be lower for poor and middle-income people who qualify for the tax payer provided subsidies."
I'll be surprised if anyone gets a subsidy. Maybe that is why the Democrats want to raise the debt limit. Need to borrow more money from China to pay for Obamacare. Need to keep those lemmings in the dark until after 2014.
spud

Dallas, PA

#5 Sep 27, 2013
Yeah, I always turn to the Daily Democrat when I want the unbiased facts concerning any new socialistic legislation.

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#6 Sep 27, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
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I bet you also piss and moan when people without insurance go to the emergency room.
It makes no sense to tie up the ER with hangnails, sore throats and tummy ache patients whose ailments ARE NOT emergencies!!! The definition of emergency -- an unforeseen combination of circumstances or the resulting state that calls for immediate action. ER's were never intended to be used as personal health care providers...but unfortunately, they are being abused.
ima-Ilis Myka Ashanti

El Paso, TX

#7 Sep 27, 2013
The Sin City Cat wrote:
<quoted text>I'll be surprised if anyone gets a subsidy. Maybe that is why the Democrats want to raise the debt limit. Need to borrow more money from China to pay for Obamacare. Need to keep those lemmings in the dark until after 2014.
how true
ima-Ilis Myka Ashanti

El Paso, TX

#8 Sep 27, 2013
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>It makes no sense to tie up the ER with hangnails, sore throats and tummy ache patients whose ailments ARE NOT emergencies!!! The definition of emergency -- an unforeseen combination of circumstances or the resulting state that calls for immediate action. ER's were never intended to be used as personal health care providers...but unfortunately, they are being abused.
true, teddy and the reason why many hospitals are and have closed their doors unable to stay open for lack of funds FOR ALL THOSE SERVICES PROVIDED and having gone UNPAID. Like the now NEW business owner juan from Vero, Florida who flew the coop to avoid paying his hospital bill when he fell broke his damned hip. Why didn't he die? he thinks he is doing the country such a big favor by living and conning money out of elderly retired people with his unlicensed business. As if being a tax evader is not enough of a crime, he continues to con money out of seniors who won't ask for his credentials, according to him....and what if they do? he won't comply? oh yes he says he'll produce A COPY of his last boss's license! THE NERVE, still using his old bosse's credentials! WHAT A FRAUD, THIS IS REALLY SERIOUS. How many illegal juans out there doing the same thing in our country? we couldn't get away in his damned country of mejico DOING THIS.
ima-Ilis Myka Ashanti

El Paso, TX

#9 Sep 27, 2013
get away with this

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#10 Sep 27, 2013
Obama gave taxpayer subsidies to Congress that none of the rest of us get. Down with laws that don't apply equally to everyone.
sheepleloveroyal ty

Bryn Mawr, PA

#11 Sep 27, 2013
3/4 of the uninsured in California to qualify for subsidies.

Not surprising with the higher cost of living AND a high ILLEGAL immigrant population.

And with California cities already having declared bankruptcy and others stressed guess who will pick up the bill for the true leftY state?
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#12 Sep 27, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
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I bet you also piss and moan when people without insurance go to the emergency room.
II don't piss and moan, am not a Democrat.
ima-Ilis Myka Ashanti

El Paso, TX

#13 Sep 27, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Obama gave taxpayer subsidies to Congress that none of the rest of us get. Down with laws that don't apply equally to everyone.
continues to divide the nation, and this is what he wants. This is his dream, to cause an uprising among the Americans so he can impose martial law and then sharia. It is so transparent on his face and body language. But he arrogantly taunts the ignorant,blind and meek sheep with his evil charm AND THEY NATURALLY FALL UNDER HIS SPELL.

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#14 Sep 27, 2013
If no Cloture, government shuts down Tuesday. Call your Senator, voting for Cloture is voting for Obamacare.

We've got to stop spending somewhere; this is good enough.
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#15 Sep 27, 2013
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>It makes no sense to tie up the ER with hangnails, sore throats and tummy ache patients whose ailments ARE NOT emergencies!!! The definition of emergency -- an unforeseen combination of circumstances or the resulting state that calls for immediate action. ER's were never intended to be used as personal health care providers...but unfortunately, they are being abused.
Teddy you are full of surprises. I did not expect you to be in favor of Obamacare.

Yes it is ridiculous that millions of people have no option other then to go to the emergency room for minor problems. Unfortunately they have no choice. As you know when you call a doctor the first question they ask is about if you have insurance. If somebody has a pre-existing condition and can not buy insurance they will either be turned away by the doctor or they will be charged a higher rate then people with insurance. Thank goodness this is no longer an issue.

You make light of minor ailments, but of course you understand that all catastrophic illnesses start as minor issues.
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#16 Sep 27, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Obama gave taxpayer subsidies to Congress that none of the rest of us get. Down with laws that don't apply equally to everyone.
Why in the world would the executive branch of government give subsidies to the legislative branch of government? That makes no sense at all.
ima-Ilis Myka Ashanti

El Paso, TX

#17 Sep 27, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Obama gave taxpayer subsidies to Congress that none of the rest of us get. Down with laws that don't apply equally to everyone.
you are right, congress and senators are exempt from BEING FORCED into obtaining obamacare! and the argument which many are trying to get across is why are they exempt from it? NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEM, if it isn't.....then WHY FORCE the citizens to BUY IT? THIS IS NOT EQUALITY FOR ALL instead it is discriminating against the citizens and giving preferential treatment for congress and senators and "o" and his administration THUGS.

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#18 Sep 27, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
If no Cloture, government shuts down Tuesday. Call your Senator, voting for Cloture is voting for Obamacare.
We've got to stop spending somewhere; this is good enough.
So you're hoping for the destruction of the USA?

You're no American.

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#19 Sep 27, 2013
spud wrote:
Yeah, I always turn to the Daily Democrat when I want the unbiased facts concerning any new socialistic legislation.
When I want a fair and balanced assessment of the Republican party I look no further than the Sunday Comics.
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#20 Sep 27, 2013
ima-Ilis Myka Ashanti wrote:
<quoted text> you are right, congress and senators are exempt from BEING FORCED into obtaining obamacare! and the argument which many are trying to get across is why are they exempt from it? NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEM, if it isn't.....then WHY FORCE the citizens to BUY IT? THIS IS NOT EQUALITY FOR ALL instead it is discriminating against the citizens and giving preferential treatment for congress and senators and "o" and his administration THUGS.
Seriously? That is what you were told?

Obamacare covers everybody. Nobody is "exempt". The whole point of the law is to provide people without employer sponsored insurance plans an opportunity to buy insurance at reasonable rates.

Members of Congress, the Senate and government employees like you already have medical insurance. There is no reason for you or anybody else who already has insurance and are happy with it to need Obamacare. It does not apply to you, but to say that you or your fellow government employees in Congress are "exempt" is incorrect.

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