Congressional Budget Office: Senate immigration bill could cut illegal immigration in half

There are 20 comments on the Jul 3, 2013, Brandon Sun story titled Congressional Budget Office: Senate immigration bill could cut illegal immigration in half. In it, Brandon Sun reports that:

Comprehensive immigration legislation passed by the Senate would reduce illegal immigration into the U.S. by one-third to one-half beyond what would happen under existing law, the Congressional Budget Office said Wednesday.

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“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

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#113 Jul 11, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Sure, because that's been so effective in the past.....

The only way to ensure the illegals don't get welfare is by getting rid of welfare for EVERYONE.

Otherwise they'll find a way around any laws, just as they have for decades.

Just like the fat lazy Americans who commit welfare fraud; getting benefits when they aren't entitled.

The only way to stop it is to end welfare for all starting in 30 days.
I notice you're still being kind in your description of illegal aliens but hammer Americans!

Are there any fat lazy illegal Mexicans getting welfare?

Remember you don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

“Headed toward the cliff”

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#114 Jul 11, 2013
Cricket 23 wrote:
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So why do you give Hispanics a free pass?
I don't. I just said those specific groups you sited were being racist.

No one gets a free pass.

“Headed toward the cliff”

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#115 Jul 11, 2013
Cricket 23 wrote:
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I notice you're still being kind in your description of illegal aliens but hammer Americans!
Are there any fat lazy illegal Mexicans getting welfare?
Remember you don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
Doubtful; if they were fat & lazy, they would never have had the energy to illegally cross the border in the first place.

Why do you support welfare for fat lazy Americans?

Cut if off for EVERYONE, so NO ONE can cheat.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

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#116 Jul 12, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Doubtful; if they were fat & lazy, they would never have had the energy to illegally cross the border in the first place.

Why do you support welfare for fat lazy Americans?

Cut if off for EVERYONE, so NO ONE can cheat.
The illegal aliens get fat and lazy "AFTER" they cross the border and start sucking our welfare system dry at the expense of the American Tax payers!

Are you trying to tell me that there are no American citizens in need of welfare?

“Headed toward the cliff”

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#117 Jul 12, 2013
Cricket 23 wrote:
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The illegal aliens get fat and lazy "AFTER" they cross the border and start sucking our welfare system dry at the expense of the American Tax payers!
Are you trying to tell me that there are no American citizens in need of welfare?
That's why I support cutting off welfare for EVERYONE after 30 days- whether you're an illegal or US citizen.

Oh I'm sure just about EVERY American could use some free money from the government so they can sit home drinking beer & watching football on their new 50" flat screen tv while surfing the internet on their new computer and calling their loser friends on their free cell phones.

No, people don't NEED welfare- they WANT welfare, or feel they are entitled to welfare, but they don't NEED welfare.

What they NEED is to get off their lazy azzes and take responsibility for their own lives and the poor choices they've made.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

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#118 Jul 16, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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That's why I support cutting off welfare for EVERYONE after 30 days- whether you're an illegal or US citizen.

Oh I'm sure just about EVERY American could use some free money from the government so they can sit home drinking beer & watching football on their new 50" flat screen tv while surfing the internet on their new computer and calling their loser friends on their free cell phones.

No, people don't NEED welfare- they WANT welfare, or feel they are entitled to welfare, but they don't NEED welfare.

What they NEED is to get off their lazy azzes and take responsibility for their own lives and the poor choices they've made.
And no caustic comments about your illegal alien fiends??

Careful your bias is showing.

Again!

So how many illegal aliens do you know and haven't turned in?

“Headed toward the cliff”

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#119 Jul 16, 2013
Cricket 23 wrote:
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And no caustic comments about your illegal alien fiends??
Careful your bias is showing.
Again!
So how many illegal aliens do you know and haven't turned in?
That applies to EVERYONE, whether they are legal or not.

NO WELFARE- PERIOD!

And I don't know anyone in this country illegally; of course since I'm not a racist, I don't just assume every Hispanic I know is an illegal and I don't ask to see their papers.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

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#120 Jul 24, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Why not cut if off for everyone?

Why do you support welfare just because they're Americans?

If you can justify giving to lazy Americans, then others can justify giving it to illegals.
When you can figure out what the word "Illegal" means, get back to the rest of us!

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

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#121 Jul 24, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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That applies to EVERYONE, whether they are legal or not.

NO WELFARE- PERIOD!

And I don't know anyone in this country illegally;

of course since I'm not a racist, I don't just assume every Hispanic I know is an illegal and I don't ask to see their papers.
Yet you don't know all Americans, but stereotype them all as fat and lazy. Why is that?

“Headed toward the cliff”

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#123 Jul 24, 2013
Cricket 23 wrote:
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Yet you don't know all Americans, but stereotype them all as fat and lazy. Why is that?
Statistics show 2/3rd of all Americans are fat and nearly 50% are on some form of welfare with 20-30 million of them unemployed.

Yep, they're fat & lazy.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

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#124 Jul 25, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Statistics show 2/3rd of all Americans are fat and nearly 50% are on some form of welfare with 20-30 million of them unemployed.
Yep, they're fat & lazy.
Link,Source anything but your opinion?

“Headed toward the cliff”

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#125 Jul 25, 2013
Cricket 23 wrote:
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Link,Source anything but your opinion?
It's called google.

Or you could just look around you when you're at Walmart or the beach or walking down any street.

FAT PEOPLE EVERYWHERE.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

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#127 Aug 7, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Sure, because that's been so effective in the past.....
The only way to ensure the illegals don't get welfare is by getting rid of welfare for EVERYONE. Otherwise they'll find a way around any laws, just as they have for decades.
Just like the fat lazy Americans who commit welfare fraud; getting benefits when they aren't entitled.
The only way to stop it is to end welfare for all starting in 30 days.
There's an old saying"Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater".

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

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#128 Aug 7, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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It's called google.
Or you could just look around you when you're at Walmart or the beach or walking down any street.
FAT PEOPLE EVERYWHERE.
Not my job to do your research!

I do mine now you do yours. Anything less is personal opinion on your part

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

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#129 Aug 7, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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That applies to EVERYONE, whether they are legal or not.
NO WELFARE- PERIOD!

And I don't know anyone in this country illegally; of course since I'm not a racist, I don't just assume every Hispanic I know is an illegal and I don't ask to see their papers.
There are 6.6 million illegal alien Mexicans in our country,
so who would you check??

Illegals by Race or Country

Mexico continued to be the leading source country of unauthorized
immigration to the United States (see Table 3).

There were 6.6 million
unauthorized immigrants from Mexico in 2010, representing 62 percent of the unauthorized population.

The next leading source countries
for unauthorized immigrants in 2010 were El Salvador
(620,000), Guatemala (520,000), Honduras (330,000), and the
Philippines (280,000).

The ten leading countries of origin represented 86 percent
of the unauthorized immigrant population in 2010.

The number of Mexican-born unauthorized
immigrants increased by 2.3
million between 2000 and 2007 and
decreased by 340,000 between 2007
and 2010.

Changes in the unauthorized
population were much smaller
during either period for other leading
source countries.

http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics...

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#130 Aug 7, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Statistics show 2/3rd of all Americans are fat and nearly 50% are on

some form of welfare with 20-30 million of them unemployed.

Yep, they're fat & lazy.
Real Americans RUSH to get employment after a local resort gets rid of
ILLEGAL Aliens! Georgia

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#131 Aug 7, 2013
Illegal, but Not Undocumented: Identity Theft, Document Fraud, and Illegal
Employment

The findings include:

a.. Illegal immigrants are not "undocumented." They have fraudulent
documents such as counterfeit Social Security cards, forged drivers
licenses, fake "green cards," and phony birth certificates. Experts suggest
that approximately 75 percent of working-age illegal aliens use fraudulent
Social Security cards to obtain employment.

b.. Most (98 percent) Social Security number (SSN) thieves use their own
names with stolen numbers. The federal E-Verify program, now mandated in
only 14 states, can detect this fraud. Universal, mandatory use of E-Verify
would curb this and stop virtually 100 percent of child identity theft.

c.. Illegal immigration and high levels of identity theft go hand-in-hand.
States with the most illegal immigration also have high levels of
job-related identity theft. In Arizona, 33 percent or all identity theft is
job-related (as opposed to identity theft motivated simply by profit). In
Texas it is 27 percent; in New Mexico, 23 percent; in Colorado, 22 percent;
California, 20 percent; and in Nevada, 16 percent. Eight of the 10 states
with the highest percentage of illegal aliens in their total population are
among the top 10 states in identity theft (Arizona, California, Florida,
Texas, Nevada, New York, Georgia, and Colorado).

d.. Children are prime targets. In Arizona, it is estimated that over one
million children are victims of identity theft. In Utah, 1,626 companies
were found to be paying wages to the SSNs of children on public assistance
under the age of 13. These individuals suffer very real and very serious
consequences in their lives.

e.. Illegal aliens commit felonies in order to get jobs. Illegal aliens
who use fraudulent documents, perjure themselves on I-9 forms, and commit
identity theft in order to get jobs are committing serious offenses and are
not "law abiding."

f.. Illegally employed aliens send billions of dollars annually to their
home countries, rather than spending it in the United States and helping
stimulate the American economy. In October 2008 alone,$2.4 billion was
transferred to Mexico.

g.. Tolerance of corruption erodes the rule of law. Corruption is a
serious problem in most illegal aliens' home countries. Allowing it to
flourish here paves the way for additional criminal activity and increased
corruption throughout society.

h.. Leaders support perpetrators and ignore victims. Political, civic,
religious, business, education, and media leaders blame Americans for
"forcing" illegal aliens to commit document fraud and identity theft. No
similar concern is expressed for the American men, women, and children whose
lives are destroyed in the process.

i.. The Social Security Administration and Internal Revenue Service
facilitate illegal immigrant-driven identity theft. Both turn a blind eye to
massive SSN fraud and take no action to stop it. The Social Security
Administration assigns SSNs to new-born infants that are being used
illegally. The IRS demands that victims pay taxes on wages earned by illegal
aliens using their stolen SSNs, while taking no action to stop the identity
theft.

j.. State and local governments need to adopt tougher laws to supplement
federal efforts. The Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is
targeting large document fraud rings and the most egregious employers, but
their resources are limited and stretched across multiple priorities. In
2007, identity theft cases represented only 7 percent of the total ICE case
load.

k.. Employers must do their part. They can ensure that they have a legal
workforce by using a combination of the federal government's E-Verify and
Social Security Number Verification Service systems and by signing up for
the federal government's IMAGE program or privately conducted audits.

http://www.cis.org/IdentityTheft

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#132 Aug 7, 2013
Cricket 23 wrote:
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Not my job to do your research!
I do mine now you do yours. Anything less is personal opinion on your part
Whatever.

If you want to believe everyone in America is fit & trim, that's your delusion to deal with.

I can't fix your stupidity.

“Headed toward the cliff”

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#133 Aug 7, 2013
Cricket 23 wrote:
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There are 6.6 million illegal alien Mexicans in our country,
so who would you check??
I would check everyone.

A racist would check only Hispanics.
Juan Too

United States

#135 Aug 7, 2013
Cricket 23 wrote:
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There are 6.6 million illegal alien Mexicans in our country,
so who would you check??
Illegals by Race or Country
There are 300 million unauthorized, undocumented white europeans illegally living in the native american homeland they erronously call "America"

http://www.americanindians.com/azzhole-gringo...

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