Public phase of immigration debate set to begin as Senate negotiators finalize deal

Apr 8, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Washington Post

In this photo provided by CBS News, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., appears, Sunday, April 7, 2013, on CBS' "Face the Nation" in Washington.

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WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Seriously?
Did you miss the entire debate over getting out of Iraq, etc?
You're either extremely ignorant or just tyring to rewrite history.
The left was as opposed to Bush as the right is opposed to Obama.
The differnce was Bush didn't try to push deportation as his main immigration policy.
Show me concrete proof that shows Romney lost because of illegal aliens supporters,the hispanic vote wouldn't have mattered had he taken a softer stance on other issues.

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<quoted text> Show me concrete proof that shows Romney lost because of illegal aliens supporters,the hispanic vote wouldn't have mattered had he taken a softer stance on other issues.
Obama- 65,907,213 votes
Romney- 60,931,767 votes

10% of all voters were hispanic = 12,700,000 votes

71% of hispanics voted for Obama = 9,000,000 votes

Only 18% of hispanic voters said illegals should be deported.

What more proof do you need?
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WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Obama- 65,907,213 votes
Romney- 60,931,767 votes
10% of all voters were hispanic = 12,700,000 votes
71% of hispanics voted for Obama = 9,000,000 votes
Only 18% of hispanic voters said illegals should be deported.
What more proof do you need?
More than enough proof that the rest of the country was divided on other issues. Where do you think the majority of obamas other near 55 million votes came from?

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<quoted text> More than enough proof that the rest of the country was divided on other issues. Where do you think the majority of obamas other near 55 million votes came from?
From all the usual democratic voter pool.

Hey, believe what you want, the election is over. And when the GOPasaurs lose the election in 2016, just remember I told you so.
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From all the usual democratic voter pool.
Hey, believe what you want, the election is over. And when the GOPasaurs lose the election in 2016, just remember I told you so.
Believe what you want,Americans dont always vote the same and destroying any amnesty bill will give republicans the white house back.

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<quoted text> Believe what you want,Americans dont always vote the same and destroying any amnesty bill will give republicans the white house back.
I really hope the GOPasaurs believe that as well.

Destroying any immigration bill, whether it contains an "amnesty" or not, will ensure 95% of those 12 million hispanic voters will all vote for the Dems in 2016.

We're banking on the GOPasaurs not understanding that.

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WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Obama- 65,907,213 votes
Romney- 60,931,767 votes
10% of all voters were hispanic = 12,700,000 votes
71% of hispanics voted for Obama = 9,000,000 votes
Only 18% of hispanic voters said illegals should be deported.
What more proof do you need?
Well you have managed to verify exactly what i have always said, and that is the fact of the Democrat Party pandering to illegal aliens and having illegal aliens voting for them is their objective to undermine the United States....

ILLEGAL ALIENS: The Future Of The Democrat Party

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<quoted text>Well you have managed to verify exactly what i have always said, and that is the fact of the Democrat Party pandering to illegal aliens and having illegal aliens voting for them is their objective to undermine the United States....
ILLEGAL ALIENS: The Future Of The Democrat Party
Nope, only citizens can vote.

But that IS the reason the Dems support making the current illegals citizens.
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Perhaps if the one of the parties actually stood up for what is best for the citizens and the country by blocking amnesty and supporting actual immigration reform instead they could gain the respect of the American people. Most people realize that the Democrats and the Republicans do not consider the interests of the country or its people when passing laws. That is why so many people vote based on what the candidate’s promises them or their “group” and not on the actual qualifications of the candidate.
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Yeah, because opposing immigration reform worked so well for Romney.....
That was no factor in his losing. But if Republicans help pass this amnesty, chances are they won't see too many victories in the future. There are too many neocon idiots in leadership positions that stupidly believe this will help their party. Amnesty would be a total win for the Democratic party and a total loss for Republicans and our country.
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Nope, only citizens can vote.
But that IS the reason the Dems support making the current illegals citizens.
Get real. Democrats help every liberal slacker to vote. That's why they opposed every attempt to make voters show a valid picture ID. They depend on illegal voters.

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<quoted text>Get real. Democrats help every liberal slacker to vote. That's why they opposed every attempt to make voters show a valid picture ID. They depend on illegal voters.
Nope, no proof an illegal has ever voted.

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Obama- 65,907,213 votes
Romney- 60,931,767 votes
10% of all voters were hispanic = 12,700,000 votes
71% of hispanics voted for Obama = 9,000,000 votes
Only 18% of hispanic voters said illegals should be deported.
What more proof do you need?
To start, you posting numbers is not proof. Please cite your source for the breakdown of hispanic voters.

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Nope, no proof an illegal has ever voted.
You really should do your own research instead of relying on dimocrat talking points.
http://www.reviewjournal.com/glenn-cook/how-m...

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To start, you posting numbers is not proof. Please cite your source for the breakdown of hispanic voters.
Exit polling from numerous organizations who study these things.

Google it if you're really interested.

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You really should do your own research instead of relying on dimocrat talking points.
http://www.reviewjournal.com/glenn-cook/how-m...
Registered voter?

So even according to your own article these to illegal didn't vote.

Nope, still no evidence a single illegal has ever voted.

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Registered voter?
So even according to your own article these to illegal didn't vote.
Nope, still no evidence a single illegal has ever voted.
Really? Are you really that ignorant. It's pointless to try to educate those that refuse to learn. You're a pathetic, partisan stooge.

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Really? Are you really that ignorant. It's pointless to try to educate those that refuse to learn. You're a pathetic, partisan stooge.
The article YOU linked to admitted the two illegals DID NOT VOTE.

So again, where is your proof all these illegals are voting?
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The notion that Republicans need to pass immigration reform to win Hispanic votes from the Democrats is nuts. If Democrats thought for an instant that would happen, immigration reform would die faster than an Obama Budget.

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The notion that Republicans need to pass immigration reform to win Hispanic votes from the Democrats is nuts. If Democrats thought for an instant that would happen, immigration reform would die faster than an Obama Budget.
That's why the GOPasaurs are stuck between a rock and a stupid place.

If they oppose immigration reform, it guarantees the Dems get 100% of the hispanic vote for the next decade, but the GOP keeps the racist white vote.

If they support immigration reform, it guarantees millions of new Democrative voters over the next decade, AND the GOP loses the racist white vote.

They're screwed either way; it's only a question of lube or no lube.

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