Illegal Immigrants Are Nationwide Pro...

Illegal Immigrants Are Nationwide Problem

There are 162 comments on the Sonoran News story from Oct 9, 2013, titled Illegal Immigrants Are Nationwide Problem. In it, Sonoran News reports that:

Illegal immigrants are a nationwide problem, not one confined to a few states, according to a poll conducted by The Conservative Caucus .

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GearHead

Jacksonville, AR

#71 Nov 12, 2013
Amazing.... This immigration problem is camouflaging the real f...inf the goverment is giving us! Wake the hell up people, they are the ones stripping our rights not immigrants.
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Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#72 Nov 12, 2013
MD Conservative wrote:
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"there was no government"
You admit so yourself. So explain Tonto, exactly what was stolen? You had no immigration laws. No one who came to this land was illegal or broke any laws.
Damm your stupid. Did you even graduate the 2nd grade you moron?
Still makes me shake my head, tell me your not really so ignorant.
GearHead

Jacksonville, AR

#73 Nov 12, 2013
And for the imbeciles that think I am endorsing ILLEGAL immigration, you are wrong!
I am Hispanic and am against ILLEGAL immigration. But the biggest problem is this administration is full of S**T.
Level 1

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#74 Nov 12, 2013
GearHead wrote:
And for the imbeciles that think I am endorsing ILLEGAL immigration, you are wrong!
I am Hispanic and am against ILLEGAL immigration. But the biggest problem is this administration is full of S**T.
I don't think its an administration problem my friend, the 2 party system of the US, is one in the same.The people themselves , have to stand in solidarity, and educate themselves on policy and law.The US is not represented by its people, but by the corporations, and the banking cartels. If the people want change , a good change, then get rid of the federal reserve,get rid of the lobbyist and special interest groups from your congress.And vote, yous must vote. Democracy in its simplest term, is the right to participate in the way in which society is governed.A general consensus of we the people.There has not yet been a democracy anywhere at anytime in our human history, for it takes 100% participation of an educated citizenry, one that votes in the best interest of the whole, and not self interest.We the people are government, there is no them and us, we the people are as much part of the problem as the ones running the show now.The elitists do not want solidarity of the people, they do not want democracy, they like it the way it is now, for we the people are divided and confused,pointing the blame on the ones who can't stand up for themselves.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#75 Nov 12, 2013
GearHead wrote:
Amazing.... This immigration problem is camouflaging the real f...inf the goverment is giving us! Wake the hell up people, they are the ones stripping our rights not immigrants.
Immigrants? Who is complaining about immigrants? This is the illegal immigration forum and illegals are stripping our country of jobs, resources and taxes not "immigrants".

Yes, we do have other problems in this country including our government who doesn't stand up for the American people anymore and one of those ways is by looking the other way on illegal immigration. You can play it down all you want but illegal immigration is one of the pressing issues in this country today. By mentioning other problem we have does not negate that fact.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#76 Nov 12, 2013
oneear69 wrote:
<quoted text>Still makes me shake my head, tell me your not really so ignorant.
Even if that were true (but it's not) what does that have to do with our right in this modern civilization to have and enforce our immigration laws just as every country does? All those involved in history are all dead now. It is only whiney Mexicans that are complaining about stolen land when their tribal ancestors weren't even indigenous to this country. The descendants of those who were are all full fledged U.S. citizens. I don't hear them whining over the past.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#77 Nov 12, 2013
oneear69 wrote:
<quoted text>You know, us Natives of the Americas have been saying the very same thing for just over 500 yrs. Fuck, there was no government,no taxes,there was plenty for every one, men hunted and fished all day, woman did all the work,there was no racism,no crime ,we respected our elders, and helped our neighbors.White man came and fuked it all up.Killed all the big game, polluted all our streams, lakes.In fact they built a whole country on stolen land and slave labour. Now instead of taking responsibility for their own actions, prefer to point the blame of their woes on the poor, who have no influence on freedom to change the system, that is corrupted from the top down. You dumbfuks, don't have to worry about so called immigrants destroying your country, yous are doing a fine job of that on your own.
The "Americas" are divided up into individual governing countries and have been for hundreds of years. No one has a right to an entire continent. Even back then the tribes held their own territories and warred with each other. The descendants of the tribes that settled within our borders are all full fledged U.S. citizens today and have been for some time now. I don't hear them whining like Mexicans who have no right to this country.

Who has said that "immigrants" are destroying our country? Did you forget what forum you are in? This is the illegal immigration forum and it is illegals that are raping our country in every way. Yes, we have our share of losers in this country but we cannot deport citizens but we can deport illegal aliens. We sure don't need to add foreign losers here illegally to the mix.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#78 Nov 12, 2013
oneear69 wrote:
<quoted text>You clearly do not understand the slave labour that exists today in your country, in the textile ad garment district alone there are some 500,000 illegal workers who are subjected to long hrs, with below average wage, thousands more in your meat processing plants, and how many more thousands work in your agricultural industry, domestic help? Seeing how it is only possible to be hired by so called legal Americans. I find your statement totally ignorant and invalid.
Did someone drag them over the border and force them to work here illegally at slave labor wages? They made victims of themselves by breaking the law. I find the employers that hire them despicable also. If I had my way there would be e-verify in every workplace to stop the employers and their illegal slaves from breaking the law. Employers who don't comply should be fined severely and even put out of business, IMO.

It is your statement that is ignorant because most Americans do not hire illegal aliens nor do they condone that practice. It is only a minority of those who do so why jump all over those of us for the rule of law?
wild child

Brooklyn, NY

#79 Nov 12, 2013
GearHead wrote:
And for the imbeciles that think I am endorsing ILLEGAL immigration, you are wrong!
I am Hispanic and am against ILLEGAL immigration. But the biggest problem is this administration is full of S**T.
we know, what can you do with obama in office.we see where he wants to go.I have nothing against legal immigrants.he obama is doing this.these fools think he loves them.his work will have to be undone.if you have a plan, let us know.the muslim hates america.period.
wild child

Brooklyn, NY

#80 Nov 12, 2013
oneear69 wrote:
<quoted text>I don't think its an administration problem my friend, the 2 party system of the US, is one in the same.The people themselves , have to stand in solidarity, and educate themselves on policy and law.The US is not represented by its people, but by the corporations, and the banking cartels. If the people want change , a good change, then get rid of the federal reserve,get rid of the lobbyist and special interest groups from your congress.And vote, yous must vote. Democracy in its simplest term, is the right to participate in the way in which society is governed.A general consensus of we the people.There has not yet been a democracy anywhere at anytime in our human history, for it takes 100% participation of an educated citizenry, one that votes in the best interest of the whole, and not self interest.We the people are government, there is no them and us, we the people are as much part of the problem as the ones running the show now.The elitists do not want solidarity of the people, they do not want democracy, they like it the way it is now, for we the people are divided and confused,pointing the blame on the ones who can't stand up for themselves.
we know the laws, he wont enforce them.he should have been impeached a long time ago, he gave the bankers and corporations the right to run the country.in return for money.sold his soul.wall street got bail outs, and people lost their homes, stocks, money his fault.too big to fail my foot.blame him.he has paid judges off, face it man is a criminal.along with all his friends in office.very sad time for america.
GearHead

United States

#81 Nov 12, 2013
wild child wrote:
<quoted text>we know, what can you do with obama in office.we see where he wants to go.I have nothing against legal immigrants.he obama is doing this.these fools think he loves them.his work will have to be undone.if you have a plan, let us know.the muslim hates america.period.
To begin with not only do Muslims hate the United States OF America, but more and more people hate the U.S because of the prejudice and the way the U.S feels superior to everyone else.
And next.....
This country was built around the bill of rights which entitles the citizens to vote out representative, that's a right. Now, look at these other countries that don't have that right, look at their uprisings. How come they aren't afraid to stand up against their government for what they believe. What do they have that WE don't have?
I believe that WE should learn that We are not superior, the racist and prejudice needs to stop! Get together and overthrow the machine.
If we don't learn and stick together, We will be tested and We will be measured.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#82 Nov 12, 2013
GearHead wrote:
<quoted text>
To begin with not only do Muslims hate the United States OF America, but more and more people hate the U.S because of the prejudice and the way the U.S feels superior to everyone else.
And next.....
This country was built around the bill of rights which entitles the citizens to vote out representative, that's a right. Now, look at these other countries that don't have that right, look at their uprisings. How come they aren't afraid to stand up against their government for what they believe. What do they have that WE don't have?
I believe that WE should learn that We are not superior, the racist and prejudice needs to stop! Get together and overthrow the machine.
If we don't learn and stick together, We will be tested and We will be measured.
It's just plain nonsense that we are noted for being a racist country today. Sure, racism still exists but no more than any other country. If we are so racist then why do we allow in 1 million legal immigrants today and most of them aren't white?

This is the illegal immigration forum and racism has little to nothing to do with objecting to illegal immigration.
GearHead

United States

#83 Nov 12, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
<quoted text>It's just plain nonsense that we are noted for being a racist country today. Sure, racism still exists but no more than any other country. If we are so racist then why do we allow in 1 million legal immigrants today and most of them aren't white?

This is the illegal immigration forum and racism has little to nothing to do with objecting to illegal immigration.
I believe things like this so called immigration reform and the Obama care bulls**t, is just a sideshow to keep us preoccupied while they lube if and get ready to bend us over a barrel.
Its obviously works, its has gotten your attention.
Just my opinion tho.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#84 Nov 12, 2013
GearHead wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe things like this so called immigration reform and the Obama care bulls**t, is just a sideshow to keep us preoccupied while they lube if and get ready to bend us over a barrel.
Its obviously works, its has gotten your attention.
Just my opinion tho.
I am not a Democrat nor an Obama fan. This issue came up during the Bush administration also and it got my attention just as well. Bush dropped any amnesty plans when the phones started ringing off the hook with objection by law abiding Americans. Congress also canned it.

Obama the king however has passed mini-amnesties by EO and looking to get the big one passed. He wants his party to retain the Hispanic vote and make citizens out of the newly legalized illegals and on the path to citizenship for more votes for the Democrats in the future.
wild child

Brooklyn, NY

#85 Nov 12, 2013
GearHead wrote:
<quoted text>
To begin with not only do Muslims hate the United States OF America, but more and more people hate the U.S because of the prejudice and the way the U.S feels superior to everyone else.
And next.....
This country was built around the bill of rights which entitles the citizens to vote out representative, that's a right. Now, look at these other countries that don't have that right, look at their uprisings. How come they aren't afraid to stand up against their government for what they believe. What do they have that WE don't have?
I believe that WE should learn that We are not superior, the racist and prejudice needs to stop! Get together and overthrow the machine.
If we don't learn and stick together, We will be tested and We will be measured.
ok I said the muslim meaning obama.muslims hate us also, so di mexicans and lots of other people.we are not racist if you come here legally.I come from legal immigrants.they were proud to become americans.they speak english.they worked, got, d/l in english they are americans.we cater to too many people.we are the best country, face it thats why people want to come here.its not our fault.im proud to be american.but these people dont really want to be american, obama does not act american.he wants to ruin this country period.and a lot of people are in on it.because he seems to be untouchable.very sad.
ronnie

Salt Lake City, UT

#86 Nov 12, 2013
Publius51 wrote:
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and if they learned it wrong or were taught short cuts to save a penny or two, the mistakes will continue to be repeated. Time we went back to the old trade schools for Americans.
In Nevada they are plowing down entire subdivisions built by illegals because they are deemed unlivable. They have blown up a few on Movies made their in the last couple of years. My family owns business there and the cheap tract housing built in 06-07 was so bad, even legal Americans couldn't stay in them. The Foundations were improperly laid and most the construction crews working there fled the State when they found out about the problems. I'm sure illegals Just bought new fake ID's and picked up hammer and nails somewhere else.And if you don't pay for licensed American Contractors and workers this is what you get. Look at Mexico/South America. They live in shacks, how are they to know how to build homes?
ronnie

Salt Lake City, UT

#88 Nov 12, 2013
Nyctophiliac_Beast wrote:
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I love you people, carry on please. LOL
Read it and learn it....We've been infested in the southwest. I know you don't get yet. But maybe someday....
AntichristObama

Waukesha, WI

#90 Nov 12, 2013
teddyr4me wrote:
Check out any school across the nation, to see such how prevalent this problem is.
Better yet, check out the Whitehouse! Kenyan-born Obama has been a Brit & an Indonesian but has never been an American much less a "natural-born" citizen. BHO belongs facing a Firing Squad. God help us!
ronnie

Salt Lake City, UT

#91 Nov 12, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
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It's just plain nonsense that we are noted for being a racist country today. Sure, racism still exists but no more than any other country. If we are so racist then why do we allow in 1 million legal immigrants today and most of them aren't white?
This is the illegal immigration forum and racism has little to nothing to do with objecting to illegal immigration.
That's right Old Glory. But if we're racist and England and European Country's are all racist and superior thinking, why does everyone in the 3rd World want in? I hear this everyday and I scratch my head. Okay we're racist's, go home. Be around your un-racist fellow man. We're not asking you to come here.
Level 1

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#92 Nov 12, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
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Even if that were true (but it's not) what does that have to do with our right in this modern civilization to have and enforce our immigration laws just as every country does? All those involved in history are all dead now. It is only whiney Mexicans that are complaining about stolen land when their tribal ancestors weren't even indigenous to this country. The descendants of those who were are all full fledged U.S. citizens. I don't hear them whining over the past.
I don't get what your saying,the indigenous people of north and south America, are all of native heritage,Spanish and Portuguese stole central and south America, and the French, British and Spanish stole North America.If you consider yourself a waspy American, you are of British decent.lol

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