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Pelosi: 'As A Country, We Cannot Prohibit A Path To Citizenship' For Illegal Aliens

There are 497 comments on the CBS Local story from May 15, 2014, titled Pelosi: 'As A Country, We Cannot Prohibit A Path To Citizenship' For Illegal Aliens. In it, CBS Local reports that:

Making a weaving string of comments on immigration reform at the Peter G. Peterson Foundation economic summit in Washington, the California Democrat said that "as a country, we cannot, let me say, we cannot prohibit a path to citizenship" for illegal immigrants.

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#502 Jul 20, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Obama picked the bill's author as his running mate,
You mean the 20008 bill- William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008- which was supported by every single Republican in Congress and signed by George Bush?

I guess you forgot you told us the CENTRAL AMERICAN children were swarming the borders because of the EO Obama passed in 2012.

The bill that has nothing to do with this loophole.

I guess a bill passed by the POTUS doesn't count when you decide you are against it five years later and it was signed by a Republican.

Of course, Obama has offered a solution- at least a partial solution- by hiring more judges and speeding up the review process but BONER & the GOP don't want to pass any legislation between now and the elections in November.

No sense spoiling their record of DOING NOTHING by doing something...

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#503 Jul 20, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Bush.
2008: he had been president for almost 8 years.
Signed the law.
His name.
The loophole is there.
Blame Clinton, blame Obama... but it isn't Bush's fault nor any of the every Republican in Congress that voted for it?
Here's a thought: stop blaming the wave of child immigrants on the border using the 2008 loophole on Obama.
You can blame Bush all you want for the law that Clinton signed, I dont care, since that law protects kids who have been brought here against their will and who are victims of sex trafficking. The illegal alien kids who are at the border now came here willingly. They are not victims being trafficked into the country.
I think what Obama is doing is criminal. There are real children who are victims of sex trafficking. They live a life so horrible that we can not even begin to imagine what they go through. They are real victims, who are raped on a daily basis by who knows how many different people. They are the kids that this law is suppose to protect not the kids who are coming here to live with their family who already lives here illegally. By combining these two groups of kids all you are doing is minimizing what real victims of sex trafficking go through. I have a feeling that you really do not give a crap though.

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#504 Jul 20, 2014
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Obama helped write the loophole into law
Nope.

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#505 Jul 20, 2014
Summary of the Trafficking Victims Protection Act (TVPA) and Reauthorizations
Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000 (TVPA 2000) In the beginning of the 21st century, at least 700,000 people were reported as victims of international trafficking each year, 14,500–17,500 of which are women and children who are trafficked specifically into the United States. The International Labor Organization (ILO) estimates there are 20.9 million victims of forced labor, with other estimates using non-governmental sources of information estimating that even larger numbers face modern-day slavery in all its forms.2 In order to combat the growing issue of trafficking in persons, members of the international community came together and concluded a new protocol to the Transnational Crime Commission that banned trafficking, resulting in the Palermo Protocol, which the U.S. Government helped develop and support. During this process and ultimately to provide for both implementation of the Protocol and to fill gaps in U.S. law, Congress passed the bipartisan Trafficking Victims Protection Act, and it was signed by President Clinton on October 28, 2000 (Public Law 106-386). The issue of trafficking in persons included those trafficked into the sex trade, slavery, and forced labor. The TVPA 2000 was created to,“ensure just and effective punishment of traffickers, and to protect their victims.”3 In particular, there were three main components of the TVPA, commonly called the three P’s: PROTECTION: The TVPA increased the U.S. Government’s efforts to protect trafficked foreign national victims including, but not limited to: Victims of trafficking, many of whom were previously ineligible for government assistance, were provided assistance; and A non-immigrant status for victims of trafficking if they cooperated in the investigation and prosecution of traffickers (T-Visas, as well as providing other mechanisms to ensure the continued presence of victims to assist in such investigations and prosecutions). PROSECUTION: The TVPA authorized the U.S. Government to strengthen efforts to prosecute traffickers including, but not limited to:
Creating a series of new crimes on trafficking, forced labor, and document servitude that supplemented existing limited crimes related to slavery and involuntary servitude; and
Recognizing that modern-day slavery takes place in the context of fraud and coercion, as well as force, and is based on new clear definitions for both trafficking into sexual exploitation and labor exploitation: Sex trafficking was defined as,“a commercial sex act that is induced by force, fraud, or coercion, or in which the person induced to perform such an act has not attained 18 years of age.”4 Labor trafficking was defined as,“the recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, or obtaining of a person for labor or services, through the use of force, fraud, or coercion for the purpose of subjection to involuntary servitude, peonage, debt bondage, or slavery.”5
PREVENTION: The TVPA allowed for increased prevention measures including, but not limited to:
Authorizing the U.S. Government to assist foreign countries with their efforts to combat trafficking, as well as address trafficking within the United States, including through research and awareness-raising; and
Providing foreign countries with assistance in drafting laws to prosecute trafficking, creating programs for trafficking victims, and assistance with implementing effective means of investigation.

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Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton later identified a fourth P,“partnership,” in 2009 to serve as a,“pathway to progress in the effort against modern-day slavery.”6
Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2003 (TVPRA 2003)
Congress re-authorized the TVPA in 2003 (herein, TVPRA 2003)(P.L.108-193). Despite significant progress to combat and prosecute trafficking in persons, additional assistance and research was still needed. Moreover, corruption was still evident among some foreign law enforcement authorities that undermined any international effort to combat this issue.7 Thus, TVPRA 2003 added provisions to expand its reach, which included, but were not limited to, the following responsibilities:
Allowed for materials to be disseminated, which alert travelers that sex tourism is illegal;
Created a new civil action that allowed trafficked victims to sue their traffickers in federal district court; and
Required the Attorney General to report annually on trafficking efforts.
Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act (TVPRA 2005)
As awareness about the issue of human trafficking grew, the United States began to recognize that human trafficking impacted not just foreign national victims of human trafficking but United States Citizens and Legal Permanent Residents. Congress reauthorized the TVPRA in 2005 (herein,“TVPRA 2005”)(P.L.109-164).8 The TVPRA 2005 added additional measures in particular to protect U.S. citizen survivors. These included, but were not limited to:
Grant programs to assist state and local law enforcement efforts in combating trafficking in persons and to expand victim assistance programs to U.S. citizens or resident aliens subjected to trafficking;9
Programs to create comprehensive service facilities for trafficking victims;
Programs to create rehabilitative facilities for trafficking victims; and
Extraterritorial jurisdiction over trafficking offenses committed overseas by persons employed by or accompanying the federal government.10
Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008 (TVPRA 2008)
In December 2008, Congress reauthorized the TVPA through Fiscal Year (FY) 2012 with the William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008 (herein, TVPRA 2008)(P.L.110-457). This bipartisan reauthorization extended and modified certain programs that form the core of the Justice Department’s efforts to prevent and prosecute human trafficking and protect the victims of trafficking and slavery, as well as the Department of Labor’s efforts to better document and deter the trafficking problem. It also allowed the continuation of the Department of Health and Human Services’ efforts to provide services to victims of trafficking, most especially children.

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#507 Jul 20, 2014
TRansom wrote:
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You can blame Bush all you want for the law that Clinton signed, I dont care,
I'm not the one who has to lie about it.

BUSH signed William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008.

Not Clinton.

(BUSH) White House Deputy Press Secretary Tony Fratto, said that the bill "has been a priority issue for the (BUSH) administration in preventing the trafficking of persons around the world. So this is a piece of legislation we're very proud to sign."

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#508 Jul 20, 2014
TRansom wrote:
I think what Obama is doing is criminal.
How **DARE*** Obama obey the law that BUSH signed!!!!!!!!

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#509 Jul 20, 2014
TRansom wrote:
By combining these two groups of kids
Combining?

So YOU NO SPEAKY THE ENGLISH???????

What part of Obama is **REQUIRED*** to follow the law: that these kids get a JUDICIAL REVIEW as REQUIRED by the BUSH law do you not understand?

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#510 Jul 20, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Combining?
So YOU NO SPEAKY THE ENGLISH???????
What part of Obama is **REQUIRED*** to follow the law: that these kids get a JUDICIAL REVIEW as REQUIRED by the BUSH law do you not understand?
Dont worry, you are not the only one who was foolish enough to believe Obama when he blamed Bush (again). A person would have to be in a coma to not have noticed a pattern with Obama and how he is never to blame for anything, either the Republicans or Bush or FOX or Rush Limbaugh are to blame or my favorite one is when he claims he didn't know anything until he heard it on the news. That last one is priceless. It is amazing the things that people like you have allowed him to get away with. It is just pathetic.
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#512 Jul 20, 2014
TRansom wrote:
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Dont worry, you are not the only one who was foolish enough to believe Obama when he blamed Bush (again). A person would have to be in a coma to not have noticed a pattern with Obama and how he is never to blame for anything, either the Republicans or Bush or FOX or Rush Limbaugh are to blame or my favorite one is when he claims he didn't know anything until he heard it on the news. That last one is priceless. It is amazing the things that people like you have allowed him to get away with. It is just pathetic.
LOL !! right on !

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#514 Jul 20, 2014
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Back to the FACT that BUSH signed the 2008 bill where the LOOPHOLE is.
Nobody disputes Bush signed the bill Vice President Biden wrote and introduced to the floor of the Senate. If Bush didn't sign it, it would have passed over his veto.

The FACT that Obama picked the bill's author as his VP is also beyond dispute. Here's evidence the White House hid the spike in immigration and are responsible for the lives of these children:
White House Hid Huge Spike Of Families Crossing Border

New data shows the White House has painted a false picture of the Central American migration by hiding a huge spike in “family units” who are illegally crossing the Texas border.

The data, which was dumped by the U.S. border patrol late Friday afternoon, shows that inflow of youths and children traveling without parents has doubled since 2013, to 57,525 in the nine months up to July 2014....
http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/18/white-house...
Obama aides were warned of brewing border crisis

By David Nakamura, Jerry Markon and Manuel Roig-Franzia July 19

Nearly a year before President Obama declared a humanitarian crisis on the border, a team of experts arrived at the Fort Brown patrol station in Brownsville, Tex., and discovered a makeshift transportation depot for a deluge of foreign children.

Thirty Border Patrol agents were assigned in August 2013 to drive the children to off-site showers, wash their clothes and make them sandwiches. As soon as those children were placed in temporary shelters, more arrived. An average of 66 were apprehended each day on the border and more than 24,000 cycled through Texas patrol stations in 2013. In a 41-page report to the Department of Homeland Security, the team from the University of Texas at El Paso (UTEP) raised alarms about the federal government’s capacity to manage a situation that was expected to grow worse....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-...

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#515 Jul 21, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
Nope.
Yes, Obama was a member of Congress that passed the law. He selected the laws author as his running mate. Obama alone is responsible for the humanitarian crisis on our Southern border.

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#516 Jul 21, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, Obama was a member of Congress that passed the law. He selected the laws author as his running mate. Obama alone is responsible for the humanitarian crisis on our Southern border.
I don't think Obama has ever taken responsibility for anything and his supporters keep letting him. It really is nauseating.
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#517 Jul 21, 2014
Not letting a crisis he encouraged go to waste, Obama is forcing us to not only agree to help these new arrivals, but give amnesty for 12 million other illegals already here.

As he spending American taxpayer $$ to "help the children," he'll be prying the borders open even more and use that money to allow millions more into America, pay for lawyers for prevent deportations, & hand them billions in welfare,food stamps, aid to dependent children, education & free meals at school— all paid for by the middle class.

It's a 2-for-1. This is how you create a permanent, loyal Democrat voter bloc while bankrupting the middle class.

Obama's plan is to overwhelm the system, collapse capitalism, crash our economy & force America to its knees. From that position of crisis, weakness & and panic, the country would be “fundamentally changed,” as promised.

Obama and his socialist cabal are liars, frauds and hypocrites. Yes, they want to help the poor and downtrodden - but only with your money.

Yes, they want to house the world’s homeless— but ONLY IN YOUR HOME.

Yes, they want to let in the world’s poverty—stricken immigrants- but ONLY INTO YOUR BACKYARD.

None of this “dirty work” ever touches their mansions, yachts, private jets, private schools, or God forbid their precious children.

Last I checked, Sasha & Malia won’t go to school with shoeless illegal immigrants with lice, scabies, and tuberculosis.

Last I checked, illegals with head-to-toe gang tattoos won’t be mugging old ladies or dealing crack in front of the Georgetown townhouses of lobbyists, lawyers and politicians like Hillary.

Or… Maybe they will. Bringing this flood of illegal children (have you noticed how with liberals it’s always “we’re doing it for the children”?) into nice middle-class communities to destroy their neighborhoods, schools, & budgets is all part of Obama’s plan to overwhelm the system & “murder the middle class.”(Like the Kennedy’s with bussing in Boston or windmills marring their ocean views—it never happens to them personally).

It’s time we counter these liberal, elite hypocrites. 1st, we must stand & fight to the last breath. The answer: SEND THEM BACK. Then take action to secure our border.

The last thing any Republican should do now is support any form of amnesty. Are we that stupid? That message would result in millions more coming.

But in the meantime, let’s demand these hordes of illegal immigrants, motherless children, and tattooed gangbangers be housed in Washington, DC Not just anywhere in DC, but in Georgetown, where all the liberal, elitist hypocrite politicians live. They want them in this country, let them walk by them as they walk to their limos.

But don’t stop there. Let’s send them to Manhattan, Scarsdale, Great Neck, Beverly Hills, Brentwood, Westwood, Palo Alto, Napa, Atherton, Menlo Park, Carmel & the ritziest neighborhoods in Boston and Chicago. These rich enclaves have the money and resources, so let Obama's socialist cabal live amongst the poor huddled masses.

Give them jobs at the Ralph Lauren store on Rodeo Dr or the Armani store on Madison Avenue or at Saks.

Why doesn’t Rachel Maddow hire one of them as the booker for her MSNBC show?

Since Obama is so quick to sue American companies for daring to demand English be spoken at the office, Michelle can hire a few to work in key positions in her office speaking only in Spanish while directing National Security.

Perhaps Hillary can get one of them a $600K job at NBC like the one she got Chelsea.

Why are we sending this needy horde of illegal immigrants to struggling middle-class neighborhoods? Let’s bus them to the wealthy liberal towns. They’ve got the money and resources to care for them.

Let’s demand they go to school at elite private schools, starting with Sidwell Friends School, where Sasha and Malia attend class. Let’s see how Michelle reacts when her precious daughters come home with lice, or cough with TB, or party with tattooed gangbangers from El Salvador.

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#518 Jul 21, 2014
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Because?
I don't care because why he signed it.
The children swarming the borders are swarming BECAUSE of the loophole on the bill he signed.
Do stop blaming it on Obama.
It wasn't a problem until barock, the yellow, chose to exploit it.
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#519 Jul 21, 2014
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Just a reminder that 63% of Americans favor a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants. There is Topix, and then there is the real world.
Undocumented immigrants have a path to citizenship, starting at the back of the line. What's good for John from Ontario is just as good for Juan from Mexico City. I don't see why crossing the U.S. border illegally should be considered a mitigating circumstance.
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Justin wrote:
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Undocumented immigrants have a path to citizenship, starting at the back of the line. What's good for John from Ontario is just as good for Juan from Mexico City. I don't see why crossing the U.S. border illegally should be considered a mitigating circumstance.
Anyone who does not agree with your post, should demonstrate they are not hypocrites by:

* Whenever they are waiting on a long line (theatre, concert, security at airport), they give up their place and let everyone who wants to cut in front of them.

* Remove all door locks from their homes. Anyone--no screening for health, skills or criminal background--who wants to can enter their home and stay as long as they like. In exchange for education, food, shelter and medical care--their permanent guests can offer to wash a dish once a while or sweep the floor (but only if they really, really want to.) If the "guest" gives birth while sitting on the sofa, the baby's name must be added to the property deed.

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#521 Jul 21, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Nobody disputes Bush signed the bil
The Bush bill that created the loophole which is the reason that minors are swarming to the border which you insisted was because of the Dream Act.

Like to remind you that you are full of [email protected]

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#522 Jul 21, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Nobody disputes Bush signed the bill Vice President Biden wrote and introduced to the floor of the Senate. If Bush didn't sign it, it would have passed over his veto.
Of course, I have to keep reminding you a veto never entered his head, I already gave y ou the quote that he considered it one of his outstanding achievements of his presidency, as usual, it is the tea baggers posting [email protected] and shifting blame- trying- to Obama.

The SPIKE is there because of the BUSH law in 2008.

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#523 Jul 21, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, Obama was a member of Congress that passed the law..
He was one of 535 members of Congress.

What was the name of the ***ONE*** president who signed the bill again?

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