House lawmakers reach tentative bipartisan immigration deal

May 19, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Ukiah Daily Journal

Prospects for passage of a major immigration bill improved on Thursday when a bipartisan group of lawmakers in the U.S. House of Representatives declared they had reached a tentative deal, resolving disputes that had threatened to torpedo negotiations.

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Since: Jul 11

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#25 May 20, 2013
spud wrote:
This isn't a broad bipartisan coalition. This is the Houses version of the gang of idiots. In other words, it's a hand picked collection of alien lovers who are pretending to speak for the masses. And the media will print any lie these people tell them to.
you also left out the AFLCIO, inions now love illegals, why, its not new flash that membership in unions has been dropping like a rock for years, they see posible "mew" members and of course with new members comes those inion dues
Level 6

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#26 May 20, 2013
These guys can make all the deals they want. Amnesty won't pass the House.
Level 6

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#27 May 20, 2013
spud wrote:
This isn't a broad bipartisan coalition. This is the Houses version of the gang of idiots. In other words, it's a hand picked collection of alien lovers who are pretending to speak for the masses. And the media will print any lie these people tell them to.
Bingo!!! You have 8 guys out of 435. What do the other 427 say? This bill is 1986 all over again only worst. It will cost the country too must and does nothing about stopping illegal aliens from coming here.

If this bill does not die it will get 1,000 amendments.
Level 6

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#28 May 21, 2013
Bonzo wrote:
"With this pen, I sign into law, an amnesty for 5 million new citizens"
-President Ronald Reagan, 1986
“The amnesty was the worst mistake of my presidency.”-Ronald Reagan

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

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Since: Apr 11

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#29 May 22, 2013
spytheweb wrote:
<quoted text>
“The amnesty was the worst mistake of my presidency.”-Ronald Reagan
You would think that we would have learned from our past mistakes. There is nobody in this government that I would trust as far as doing intensive background checks to ensure that the people who apply to legally remain are who they claim to be. If one looks back to the '86 shamnesty, one would find out that there was rampant fraud being perptrated, and now multiply that same kind of fraud by tenfold. This country is run by a bunch of hacks. This travesty should be met with great resistance. A pittance of a fine of $500.00...are they kidding???
spud

Bangor, PA

#30 May 22, 2013
spytheweb wrote:
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Bingo!!! You have 8 guys out of 435. What do the other 427 say? This bill is 1986 all over again only worst. It will cost the country too must and does nothing about stopping illegal aliens from coming here.
If this bill does not die it will get 1,000 amendments.
You're right about this bill. It's a rerun of 1986 but with many more negative consequences. It's all amnesty and no enforcement. Promises of future enforcement from politicians are meaningless. All the saps saying these people need to be brought out of the shadows must not have TVs. Illegal aliens who burn our flag and give the finger to cameramen as they openly protest in front of government buildings don't exactly strike me as being in any shadows. It's more like they're brazenly defiant of our laws. These are not the type of people any country needs. Of course, we have a lot of politicians that perceive some kind of advantage from supporting this amnesty. There will be a lot of amendments but many of them will just be unenforceable words designed to make voters think that their guy really cares. Beware.
Anonymous

Chicago, IL

#31 May 22, 2013
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>You would think that we would have learned from our past mistakes. There is nobody in this government that I would trust as far as doing intensive background checks to ensure that the people who apply to legally remain are who they claim to be. If one looks back to the '86 shamnesty, one would find out that there was rampant fraud being perptrated, and now multiply that same kind of fraud by tenfold. This country is run by a bunch of hacks. This travesty should be met with great resistance. A pittance of a fine of $500.00...are they kidding???
We "the People" have learn. We are fighting this,we will continue to fight this and everything else these useless Politicians attempt to shove down our throats,their continuous path to tyranny. These Politician have sold their American Souls for Power and the mighty dollar. This(if it goes through) and everything else they attempt to instill in our American way,I do not see as any sort of defeat. I see all this as a motivation,determination to continue on with our fight,for America(not as it was,but better) will prevail.
We all know that this Immigration bill is a joke.... and the Joke(the final laugh) will be on the Illegals.their supporters and their beloved Mexico. The joke is on them. Yes, this will cost us a pretty penny,but in the long run...? Just wait and see!
Anonymous

Chicago, IL

#34 May 22, 2013
IMHO
No matter, I have a feeling this Bill is going to go through. Most of us have been preparing for this.
Those who have not... get ready.

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#35 May 22, 2013
--SummerRose-- wrote:
IMHO
No matter, I have a feeling this Bill is going to go through. Most of us have been preparing for this.
Those who have not... get ready.
this first vote you knew it was, now ist goes before the full house and senate--i dont think so.
Fair one

Cape Coral, FL

#36 May 22, 2013
How dare the old out of touch politicians slam the American people with a traitorous piece of garbage bill. If just one legal citizen is out of work or underemployed, we do not need or want legal immigrants.
Illegal aliens are another story. We must stop watching in disguest as they take over our schools, drain our tax funded social services, crowd our jails, destroy our neighborhoods, and steal American jobs. We need to scream to the Feds to secure the border and send these invaders back to their country of origin.
Never in the history of the world have elected politicians ignored the will of the citizens and pandered and pimped for criminal invading lawbreakers -- except in the USA.
Call and scream at everyone of these Aholes..
Send the invaders home now.
Kill the bill.
Anonymous

Chicago, IL

#37 May 22, 2013
Andysdad wrote:
<quoted text>this first vote you knew it was, now ist goes before the full house and senate--i dont think so.
I still hold on to the hope it doesn't go through the House,but I am always ready for the worse case scenario.
I was always taught to work your plan "A",but have plan "B" handy in case your best shot wasn't good enough.
What I am saying is... always be prepared.
(I am a complainer,my family knows this,but it's just simply venting, life goes on) Americans never give up on their hopes,your faith,dreams and all those positive feeling/thinking instilled in you from very young/your experience. Congress can't be this dumb to add this burden upon us when it is obviously it's unsustainable.Though , It will not surprise me.
Anonymous

Chicago, IL

#38 May 22, 2013
Fair one wrote:
How dare the old out of touch politicians slam the American people with a traitorous piece of garbage bill. If just one legal citizen is out of work or underemployed, we do not need or want legal immigrants.
Illegal aliens are another story. We must stop watching in disguest as they take over our schools, drain our tax funded social services, crowd our jails, destroy our neighborhoods, and steal American jobs. We need to scream to the Feds to secure the border and send these invaders back to their country of origin.
Never in the history of the world have elected politicians ignored the will of the citizens and pandered and pimped for criminal invading lawbreakers -- except in the USA.
Call and scream at everyone of these Aholes..
Send the invaders home now.
Kill the bill.
If this "Bill" is passed it set's the stage to what we undeniably are up against. It will wake up those who have been asleep and put their trust in other peoples hands.
chicagonut

Banning, CA

#39 May 22, 2013
MD Conservative wrote:
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WRONG-O Skippy!!! It was 1.9 million, besides why aren't you complaining about the more than 3 million your FIRST Black POTUS Clinton gave amnesty. OH SNAP!!!
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." - John Adams
You're the one who is wrong:
"The law granted amnesty to nearly 3 million illegal immigrants, yet was largely considered unsuccessful because the strict sanctions on employers were stripped out of the bill for passage".
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php...

By the way, I am a Republican so why mention Clinton to me? There have been several mini-amnesties under both parties since then.

Since: Jul 11

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#40 May 22, 2013
--SummerRose-- wrote:
<quoted text>
I still hold on to the hope it doesn't go through the House,but I am always ready for the worse case scenario.
I was always taught to work your plan "A",but have plan "B" handy in case your best shot wasn't good enough.
What I am saying is... always be prepared.
(I am a complainer,my family knows this,but it's just simply venting, life goes on) Americans never give up on their hopes,your faith,dreams and all those positive feeling/thinking instilled in you from very young/your experience. Congress can't be this dumb to add this burden upon us when it is obviously it's unsustainable.Though , It will not surprise me.
yet both full houses know the truth, the bill has had all enforcement amendments to it stripped. Every enforcement measure voted down by this small 18 member panel. On both sides of the isle , that has raised seroius questions and concerns,the most outstanding on being that this bill is all about amnesty and voting and nothing about preventing it from happening again
fscott

Albuquerque, NM

#42 May 22, 2013
I think something needs to be done about immigration and illegal immigrants. The problem is in the details. The first step must be securing our borders and they are not secure now my friends. I won't buy anything that puts illegals on the same ground as people who followed the rules and came here the right way. Anything involving illegals must have substantial punishments for breaking the law and a clean bill of health criminally. I would support a work permit program, enhanced measures for immigrants we want i.e. those with an education and skills. There must also be clear rules that preclude immigrants from welfare and unemployment benefits or other benefits of citizens. That said I want to see it in writing because I don't trust the government.
Anonymous

Chicago, IL

#43 May 22, 2013
Andysdad wrote:
<quoted text>yet both full houses know the truth, the bill has had all enforcement amendments to it stripped. Every enforcement measure voted down by this small 18 member panel. On both sides of the isle , that has raised seroius questions and concerns,the most outstanding on being that this bill is all about amnesty and voting and nothing about preventing it from happening again
This is why we are outraged.
Illegals will continue to cross the border and take advantage of our kindness.
Anonymous

Chicago, IL

#44 May 22, 2013
MD Conservative wrote:
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NPR.org is your source? ROFLMFAO! Enuf said.
Sorry boy-oh! Only approximately 1.9 million were granted amnesty under the Reagan (aka KENNEDY) bill. 3 million were eligible, only granted to 1.9 million tho. That is a FACT, but you won't know it since you choose NPR.org as your source. A source which is known liberal-biased and consistently less than factual.
So how come you ignore the fact that over 3 million illegals were granted amnesty by Clinton? You sure are whining a lot about Reagan's 1.9 million but are silent about Clintons 3 million. Hypocrite much?
I am also ignorant as to how many were granted Amnesty under Reagan. Although ,I wish I could read everything there is related to this,that and a whole lot of issues affecting the American as we knew it... I can't/some can't.
Most of us have a life away from our main source of info,the internet and we do not have a whole lot of time to spare. Most of us are in preparation mode.
Having said that, the Reagan/Clinton let in many, we noticed it and this " Bill:" ready to be voted on... will be worse.
Anonymous

Chicago, IL

#45 May 22, 2013
fscott wrote:
I think something needs to be done about immigration and illegal immigrants. The problem is in the details. The first step must be securing our borders and they are not secure now my friends. I won't buy anything that puts illegals on the same ground as people who followed the rules and came here the right way. Anything involving illegals must have substantial punishments for breaking the law and a clean bill of health criminally. I would support a work permit program, enhanced measures for immigrants we want i.e. those with an education and skills. There must also be clear rules that preclude immigrants from welfare and unemployment benefits or other benefits of citizens. That said I want to see it in writing because I don't trust the government.
I agree with you.
Anonymous

Chicago, IL

#46 May 22, 2013
chicagonut wrote:
<quoted text>
You're the one who is wrong:
"The law granted amnesty to nearly 3 million illegal immigrants, yet was largely considered unsuccessful because the strict sanctions on employers were stripped out of the bill for passage".
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php...
By the way, I am a Republican so why mention Clinton to me? There have been several mini-amnesties under both parties since then.


Your comment: several mini-amnesties under both parties since then.

Me: True, this is the reason we can not comprehend what these Politicians are thinking! What about the American People,I would ask them.
Hodgie

Green Bay, WI

#47 May 22, 2013
April Flower wrote:
<quoted text>
Hahahahahaha.... Okay, I will get on the phone right now and demand they hurry-it up and give you everything you and yours..... desires. How's that ? Silly People,really now,c'mon... what makes you illegals special? Hahahahahaha...
EXACTLY!!!!They want their cake and eat it too. Whatever.

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