Franken Bets On 'DREAM Act' In Immigr...

Franken Bets On 'DREAM Act' In Immigration Bill

There are 95 comments on the CBS Local story from Apr 2, 2013, titled Franken Bets On 'DREAM Act' In Immigration Bill. In it, CBS Local reports that:

Minnesota Sen. Al Franken anticipates the federal immigration overhaul will contain the so-called DREAM Act that's geared toward speeding citizenship for young illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as children.

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#23 Apr 4, 2013
spud wrote:
I know a lot of hard working, honest people but it's impossible for them to even think about running for a national office. Then I watch a total idiot like Franken get elected and it shakes my confidence in this country. Between the bribes from lobbyists and the slanted coverage from our corporate MSM our elections are definitely rigged.
Kinda' like the political influence and contributions of the NRA, huh?
spud

Bangor, PA

#24 Apr 4, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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Kinda' like the political influence and contributions of the NRA, huh?
The NRA is only one of many lobbyist bribers. You can also include the unions, trial lawyers, the chamber of commerce and organizations like LaRaza, Maldef, Lulac, and all the various foundations that support these organizations because they love the slave labor. Our government is totally on the take from both sides.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Level 10

Since: Apr 11

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#25 Apr 4, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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That law is as old as the 2nd Ammendment - good idea, let's change them both, ok?
The second amendment was ratified in 1791, and the fourteenth in1868. Good idea to change both? Hmmmm...no.
Nanuq

Kennesaw, GA

#26 Apr 4, 2013
spud wrote:
<quoted text>The NRA is only one of many lobbyist bribers. You can also include the unions, trial lawyers, the chamber of commerce and organizations like LaRaza, Maldef, Lulac, and all the various foundations that support these organizations because they love the slave labor. Our government is totally on the take from both sides.
who are you with nazi boy?!?

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#27 Apr 4, 2013
spud wrote:
<quoted text>The NRA is only one of many lobbyist bribers. You can also include the unions, trial lawyers, the chamber of commerce and organizations like LaRaza, Maldef, Lulac, and all the various foundations that support these organizations because they love the slave labor. Our government is totally on the take from both sides.
I agree 100%- and I find it really sad that America is only starting to realize this now after nearly 200 years of abuse.

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#28 Apr 4, 2013
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>The second amendment was ratified in 1791, and the fourteenth in1868. Good idea to change both? Hmmmm...no.
Hey - Ammedments are Ammendments, what's the difference? Let's work our way up from the bottom.

You can't call it socialism if all you want to do is make things "your way and your way only." Mandatory laws work both ways - I can't take away your guns just as much as you can't tell me I have to own one. In the same token - I can't tell someone they can't become a US citizen because a little over 100 years ago, my family immigrated here with the same expectations of freedoms.

See where I'm going with this?
spud

Bangor, PA

#29 Apr 4, 2013
Nanuq wrote:
<quoted text> who are you with nazi boy?!?
It's an honor to be insulted by someone with your superior mental capacity. I bet everyone on your side of this debate is sitting on the edge of their chairs just waiting for you to write your next wisdom filled post. If you are an example of what this country would be adding by granting amnesty, I'm sure you changed a lot of minds.

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#31 Apr 4, 2013
luvmypain wrote:
I think you are an ignorant, loudmouth, wet back piece of shit who thinks he is an expert on the American Constitution
I think before you start calling people ignorant around here, you should first learn how to accurately direct your posts and responses in the correct way.

Hint: the green button to the upper right in each post box.

And you have no idea who anyone is on the internet.

Relax your sphincter - and lighten up - this is Offbeat, not a Congressional meeting.

miky muller
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Since: Jan 12

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#32 Apr 4, 2013
That's just plain disgusting!
Nanuq

United States

#33 Apr 4, 2013
spud wrote:
<quoted text> It's an honor to be insulted by someone with your superior mental capacity. I bet everyone on your side of this debate is sitting on the edge of their chairs just waiting for you to write your next wisdom filled post. If you are an example of what this country would be adding by granting amnesty, I'm sure you changed a lot of minds.
Your mouth is so big, you could suck an egg from a chicken.
Im pretty sure you are here to vomit your hate agenda .I'm here to divide and conquer !
spud

Bangor, PA

#34 Apr 4, 2013
Nanuq wrote:
<quoted text> Your mouth is so big, you could suck an egg from a chicken.
Im pretty sure you are here to vomit your hate agenda .I'm here to divide and conquer !
Another genius post from a half wit. Need I say more? If you think this country needs anyone like you, you better wake up because you're dreaming.

“The "entitled" =communist.”

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Since: May 10

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#35 Apr 4, 2013
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>The second amendment was ratified in 1791, and the fourteenth in1868. Good idea to change both? Hmmmm...no.
1791, the year gun control was decided. Snuff said.
Nanuq

Kennesaw, GA

#36 Apr 4, 2013
spud wrote:
<quoted text>Another genius post from a half wit. Need I say more? If you think this country needs anyone like you, you better wake up because you're dreaming.
Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you’d had enough oxygen at birth? I'm not in need of a country bubba my ancestors were here since day 1 ...in 1924 your congress granted us citizenship although we were here long before congress was here. Listen you vulture puke your only viable option it's to emigrate somewhere else if you can't accept other human beings
spud

Bangor, PA

#37 Apr 5, 2013
Nanuq wrote:
<quoted text>Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you’d had enough oxygen at birth? I'm not in need of a country bubba my ancestors were here since day 1 ...in 1924 your congress granted us citizenship although we were here long before congress was here. Listen you vulture puke your only viable option it's to emigrate somewhere else if you can't accept other human beings
This is what too many drugs and booze can do to a person.
Mayela

Union City, GA

#38 Apr 5, 2013
Opinion: Stop the public tantrum against DREAMers

In a recent Op-Ed,“DREAMers are pushing their luck,” conservative columnist Ruben Navarrette criticizes DREAM Act youth.“I know just what a lot of those so-called DREAMers deserve to get for Christmas,” he writes,“a scolding.” Navarrette goes on to give them one, calling them “spoiled brats” who are “drunk on entitlement.”

It is beyond strange that Navarrette would take aim at the most powerless and vulnerable of all the players in the immigration debate. Not only does Navarrette object to the DREAMers’ civic engagement, he warns of a backlash against their “public tantrums.” Sadly, the only “public tantrum” on display is Navarrette’s – and it’s not pretty.

Navarrette complains that the DREAMers “insist that they’re entitled to better treatment than run-of-the-mill immigrants.” Actually, the DREAMers are entitled to better treatment. Unlike most of the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants in the U.S., they did not choose to enter the country illegally; they were brought as children by their parents. For this reason, fairness and compassion dictate that these young people be treated differently.

The DREAMers’ activism offends Navarrette.“They don caps and gowns and disrupt committee hearings and occupy the offices of members of Congress,” he writes.“They dare the police to arrest them, and then act surprised when it happens.” Yet peaceful civil disobedience is one of the hallmarks of a healthy democracy. It took courage for the DREAMers to out themselves as undocumented, risking deportation in pursuit of their cause. This past summer, the growing protests and increased visibility of the DREAMers led to the Obama administration’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which grants temporary relief from deportation to qualified young people. That the DREAMers were able to bring about such an important policy shift is as remarkable as it is commendable. And consider that last year, for the first time in history, an undocumented immigrant, Benita Velez, addressed the Democratic National Convention.

Navarrette also objects to the DREAMers seeking U.S. citizenship. Holding this view, he must be feeling a bit lonely. The Pew Center reports that 91 percent of Hispanics support a path to citizenship for undocumented young people. Polling consistently shows that a majority of Americans feel the same way. Would Navarrette prefer that undocumented youth remain a permanent underclass, living in the shadows among us?

Navarette then makes the claim that the DREAMers are provoking a backlash.“While they (DREAMers) probably don’t realize it,” he writes,“their public tantrums are turning people against them and hurting the chances for a broader immigration reform package.” As proof, he cites one source – one!– who happens to be his friend and business partner. This one source shares Navarrette’s opinion that the DREAMers are making too many demands. But just because Navarrette has one like-minded friend doesn’t mean there is any movement against the DREAMers and immigration reform.

In fact, the opposite is true. In the aftermath of the 2012 election, leading conservative voices from TV host Sean Hannity to Speaker of the House John Boehner are now leaning towards supporting a pathway to citizenship for the undocumented.

Navarrette’s irritation at the DREAMers’“tantrums” is ironic considering he has had some choice tantrums of his own. This is a man who describes a “nose-to-nose shouting match” with Cesar Chavez in his book (page 227). He has publicly feuded with Latina icon Dolores Huerta. More recently, one immigrant advocacy group called his DREAMers column “a petty screed.”

Their activism should be celebrated, not criticized. While they exemplify democracy in action, Navarrette reveals himself to be an embittered, unreasonable grouch.
http://nbclatino.com/2013/01/03/opinion-why-t...
Level 6

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#40 Apr 5, 2013
Nanuq wrote:
Born on US soil = American citizen . End of story!
That is not what the 14th amendment says. Indians were born on US soil but were not born US citizens until a act was passed in 1924 making them citizens, no such act has been passed for illegal aliens.

The 14th amendment says in order to be born a US citizen your parents must be under the jurisdiction of the US. Illegal aliens are not. They are under whatever country they are citizens of. Don't be confused by under the jurisdiction and subject to the law. Everyone inside the US is subject to the law.

Only Americans are under US jurisdiction and that is why they have to pay income tax even when living outside the US. No Illegal alien can be tried for treason or compelled to perform jury duty because they are not under the jurisdiction of the US, they are not US citizens, they are illegal aliens and as is required by the 14th amendment their children born here should not be born US citizens.
Level 6

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#41 Apr 5, 2013
Jforever wrote:
<quoted text>. In that case you would not be citizen either cause I bet your ancestors were from Europe or africa think about it !
My passport is good in any country on the planet, how about a illegal alien's? What they don't know what a passport is.

GA's new SB 160 just stopped taking foreign passports as IDs that don't not have a valid visa stamp in them. Illegal aliens are saying all immigrants passports are no good. But the true story is the ones who can't show a valid visa or that they are in the country legally won't pass the mustard.
Anonymous

Payson, AZ

#42 Apr 6, 2013
"A good illegal alien is a dead illegal alien." No crime, no filth, no anchor babies. Everything they
touch turns to crap. We need an aggressive but humane program to deport one and all.
Mayela

Union City, GA

#43 Apr 6, 2013
“Most are in agreement that the Indians were invited simply because the Pilgrims knew that they would have died had it not been for the help of the local Indians,” Rev. Cho unsentimentally recalled.“Those that we would now categorize as ‘illegal aliens,’” i.e. the Pilgrims,“not only came without invitation but they came to take over,” the clergyman grimly alleged.“In fact, beyond the first joint ‘Thanksgiving,’ there were no further meals of mutual peace, dependence, and friendship.” In Cho’s telling, Thanksgiving was just a last sort of last meal for the Indians who would later succumb to an ongoing “genocide” by Europeans of America’s native peoples.
http://spectator.org/archives/2011/11/28/a-ge...

“Those that we would now categorize as ‘illegal aliens,’” i.e. the Pilgrims"

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#44 Apr 6, 2013
Mayela wrote:
“Most are in agreement that the Indians were invited simply because the Pilgrims knew that they would have died had it not been for the help of the local Indians,” Rev. Cho unsentimentally recalled.“Those that we would now categorize as ‘illegal aliens,’” i.e. the Pilgrims,“not only came without invitation but they came to take over,” the clergyman grimly alleged.“In fact, beyond the first joint ‘Thanksgiving,’ there were no further meals of mutual peace, dependence, and friendship.” In Cho’s telling, Thanksgiving was just a last sort of last meal for the Indians who would later succumb to an ongoing “genocide” by Europeans of America’s native peoples.
http://spectator.org/archives/2011/11/28/a-ge...
“Those that we would now categorize as ‘illegal aliens,’” i.e. the Pilgrims"
YUP
after all the reading of such garbage i remembered it comes from those prison computers. time to take them out of prisons and get you folks off line.

seems la raza is teaching you while you're locked up

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