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'Undocumented Immigrant' Used onFox News?

There are 265 comments on the TheBlaze.com story from Apr 13, 2013, titled 'Undocumented Immigrant' Used onFox News?. In it, TheBlaze.com reports that:

The announcement from the Associated Press this month that it was dropping the term "illegal immigrant" or "illegal" to describe people residing in the U.S. against the law was met with strong reaction, particularly on Fox News .

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Since: May 11

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#216 May 19, 2013
Die Criminal Invaders wrote:
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Your a piece of un-American garbage and should rot in jail for illegally hiring illegals. Guys like you are the reason these vermin keep coming by the millions. Go to hell dirtbag.
You are confused, my uneducated, knuckle dragging friend.

I'm a successful engineer/businessman. I'm a pillar of my community. I donate to charity and fund scholarships for underprivileged children. I am also a veteran.

I do NOT break the law. I simply skirt around the edges of what I think is a very stupid law. I never KNOWINGLY hire an illegal. That wording is very important. It's easy for a homeowner to hire workers who MIGHT be illegal (but how would we know? we aren't legally required to ask).

I'm just smart enough to dance around STUPID laws. I did the same thing with the equally stupid "assault weapons" law years ago. Pass stupid laws that the people don't agree with, and they'll find ways around them, they always do.

Tens of millions of (alleged) illegals go to work in this country every day- working for individuals/homeowners, small business, and large businesses. That ain't going to change anytime soon.
Purple Turtle

Mountain Home, AR

#217 May 19, 2013
What part of illegal don't some people understand in illegal aliens?
Cat74

United States

#218 May 19, 2013
I live in a small town. A neighbor had a contracter give an estimate for putting on a new roof. The contracter was USA all the way. Next day the crew arrived, one American, English translator, 4 Hispanics. The home owner asked to see proof they were legal, and the Foreman had none so he fired the whole group. We have to stop giving these criminals a pass. I am sure there are people here legally that will work just as hard, and well.
Cat74

United States

#219 May 19, 2013
We hired a Mexican housekeeper, and the first thing my husband said was I need to know you are here legally. She provided proof, and we just sent a letter to give reference that she is an upstanding, hard working citizen. People don't need sponcers anymore, but they need Americans that can verify their character. She works everyday, for several people, all of whom would testify she is a better citizen then some born here.
Dee Dee Dee

Coopersburg, PA

#220 May 19, 2013
libertarian4321 wrote:
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I'm not going to jail, I'm an upstanding law abiding citizen who apparently knows the law better than you do...
I know you are not going to jail for hiring illegal aliens. That is part of the problem. Though based on your comments I am sure your greed will land you in trouble with the law. If you are willing to hire illegal aliens I am sure you are violating other laws to increase profits.
Dee Dee Dee

Coopersburg, PA

#221 May 19, 2013
libertarian4321 wrote:
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You are confused, my uneducated, knuckle dragging friend.
I'm a successful engineer/businessman. I'm a pillar of my community. I donate to charity and fund scholarships for underprivileged children. I am also a veteran.
I do NOT break the law. I simply skirt around the edges of what I think is a very stupid law. I never KNOWINGLY hire an illegal. That wording is very important. It's easy for a homeowner to hire workers who MIGHT be illegal (but how would we know? we aren't legally required to ask).
I'm just smart enough to dance around STUPID laws. I did the same thing with the equally stupid "assault weapons" law years ago. Pass stupid laws that the people don't agree with, and they'll find ways around them, they always do.
Tens of millions of (alleged) illegals go to work in this country every day- working for individuals/homeowners, small business, and large businesses. That ain't going to change anytime soon.
Actually based on your posts you fit the definition for a sociopath quite well.
ima- Ilis Myka Ashanti

El Paso, TX

#222 May 19, 2013
libertarian4321 wrote:
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You are confused, my uneducated, knuckle dragging friend.
I'm a successful engineer/businessman. I'm a pillar of my community. I donate to charity and fund scholarships for underprivileged children. I am also a veteran.
I do NOT break the law. I simply skirt around the edges of what I think is a very stupid law. I never KNOWINGLY hire an illegal. That wording is very important. It's easy for a homeowner to hire workers who MIGHT be illegal (but how would we know? we aren't legally required to ask).
I'm just smart enough to dance around STUPID laws. I did the same thing with the equally stupid "assault weapons" law years ago. Pass stupid laws that the people don't agree with, and they'll find ways around them, they always do.
Tens of millions of (alleged) illegals go to work in this country every day- working for individuals/homeowners, small business, and large businesses. That ain't going to change anytime soon.
a true patriotic American WOULD ASK it the contractors' workers ARE LEGALLY HERE. With citizens like you it's no wonder the illegals don't let up, more than likely you're an anchor AND YOU FEEL OBLIGED.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Level 10

Since: Apr 11

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#223 May 19, 2013
ima- Ilis Myka Ashanti wrote:
<quoted text> a true patriotic American WOULD ASK it the contractors' workers ARE LEGALLY HERE. With citizens like you it's no wonder the illegals don't let up, more than likely you're an anchor AND YOU FEEL OBLIGED.
I recently had a new built in oven installed, and asked the installer, who has a windows and window coverings side business just that. He said, "Nope and never will." Good guy. I hope his business is booming.

Since: May 11

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#225 May 19, 2013
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
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I know you are not going to jail for hiring illegal aliens. That is part of the problem. Though based on your comments I am sure your greed will land you in trouble with the law. If you are willing to hire illegal aliens I am sure you are violating other laws to increase profits.
I don't hire (alleged) illegals. I hire a white, flag waving, real 'Murrican. He then hires a crew, who will most likely not speak much English.

Are they illegal? Maybe. I don't know, and I don't much care, as long as they do a good job. And I'm not legally required to ask, so I don't.

I am a model citizen. I have never been in any trouble for anything more than a speeding ticket (and the last of those was more than 15 years ago). But I think I should be allowed to hire the best workers available for a given job and wage. If the law allows me to do so (and it does), I'll do it.

Millions of Americans do the same as I do, every day. That's how business gets done here in the Southwest. Those millions of illegals ain't here for tourism, they are here to work, and plenty of real 'Murricans are ready and willing to hire them.

Since: May 11

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#226 May 19, 2013
ima- Ilis Myka Ashanti wrote:
<quoted text> a true patriotic American WOULD ASK it the contractors' workers ARE LEGALLY HERE. With citizens like you it's no wonder the illegals don't let up, more than likely you're an anchor AND YOU FEEL OBLIGED.
That's your opinion. I don't agree- and obviously many millions of other Americans disagree with you, too. Those tens of millions of illegals wouldn't be here if tens or hundreds of millions of Americans weren't willing to hire them (or use companies that do).

You can ask any question you want, knock yourself out. Wave the flag and pat yourself on the back if it makes you feel better. I choose not to.

The only question I ask is how much will it cost and what skill level do the workers have. If the work is good and the price is fair, I don't much care if the workers were born in Laredo or 100 yards south in Nuevo Laredo.
Juan

Vero Beach, FL

#227 May 21, 2013
Most Americans aren't interested if the worker is undocumented or not, they're interested in the price of the new roof.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

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Since: Apr 11

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#228 May 21, 2013
Juan wrote:
Most Americans aren't interested if the worker is undocumented or not, they're interested in the price of the new roof.
Wrong, we don't want to have a bunch of illegal hacks learning on the job. The end result would not be acceptable.
Dee Dee Dee

Coopersburg, PA

#229 May 21, 2013
libertarian4321 wrote:
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I don't hire (alleged) illegals. I hire a white, flag waving, real 'Murrican. He then hires a crew, who will most likely not speak much English.
Are they illegal? Maybe. I don't know, and I don't much care, as long as they do a good job. And I'm not legally required to ask, so I don't.
I am a model citizen. I have never been in any trouble for anything more than a speeding ticket (and the last of those was more than 15 years ago). But I think I should be allowed to hire the best workers available for a given job and wage. If the law allows me to do so (and it does), I'll do it.
Millions of Americans do the same as I do, every day. That's how business gets done here in the Southwest. Those millions of illegals ain't here for tourism, they are here to work, and plenty of real 'Murricans are ready and willing to hire them.
So you admit that you have knowledge or should have that you are using illegal labor. If you were to admit to ICE officials what you have posted here, if it is true, you can be prosecuted. Ask your lawyer he will back me up that if “ignore” the fact that a contractor working for you is using illegal labor you can be prosecuted. Also if those illegal aliens happen to injure themselves while working for you and they find a lawyer you will find out expensive cheap labor can be. Those lawyers that advertise on TV in Spanish about suing for accidents and work related injuries and are not stupid and they know that most fly by night contractors have few if any assets they can touch but the people they work do for are a different story.

Karma can be a bitch. LOL

Since: May 11

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#230 May 26, 2013
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
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So you admit that you have knowledge or should have that you are using illegal labor. If you were to admit to ICE officials what you have posted here, if it is true, you can be prosecuted. Ask your lawyer he will back me up that if “ignore” the fact that a contractor working for you is using illegal labor you can be prosecuted. Also if those illegal aliens happen to injure themselves while working for you and they find a lawyer you will find out expensive cheap labor can be. Those lawyers that advertise on TV in Spanish about suing for accidents and work related injuries and are not stupid and they know that most fly by night contractors have few if any assets they can touch but the people they work do for are a different story.
Karma can be a bitch. LOL
How some of you manage to get through life, I'll never know. It must be a struggle for you to sit up and take nourishment, let alone do anything more complex, with your limited intellects.

Here's the deal, genius. If I hire an AMERICAN contractor, and he hires a pile of illegals, I have done nothing wrong. Read that slowly, wipe the drool from your chin, then read it again. Let it sink in.

As a homeowner I have NO REQUIREMENT to ascertain the immigration status of the employees of a contractor I hire.

That's the beauty of the system. The homeowner has no liability.

The contractor could, potentially, face fines, but we both know he has a better chance of winning the lottery than being convicted of hiring illegals.
Cat74

United States

#231 May 26, 2013
If I hire a Contractor, and he comes to my house with a half dozen workers that don't speak English I can, and have asked for proof of legal status, or I asked them to leave, and hired someone else. They can come here all they want, but I am not going to aid, and abet their criminality.
petro

El Paso, TX

#232 May 26, 2013
Juan wrote:
Most Americans aren't interested if the worker is undocumented or not, they're interested in the price of the new roof.
LIAR, you're here hoping to get sympathizers on your side!
Level 5

Since: Sep 07

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#234 May 27, 2013
libertarian4321 wrote:
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How some of you manage to get through life, I'll never know. It must be a struggle for you to sit up and take nourishment, let alone do anything more complex, with your limited intellects.
Here's the deal, genius. If I hire an AMERICAN contractor, and he hires a pile of illegals, I have done nothing wrong. Read that slowly, wipe the drool from your chin, then read it again. Let it sink in.
As a homeowner I have NO REQUIREMENT to ascertain the immigration status of the employees of a contractor I hire.
That's the beauty of the system. The homeowner has no liability.
The contractor could, potentially, face fines, but we both know he has a better chance of winning the lottery than being convicted of hiring illegals.
another thing...

any legal contract that you may have signed with the contractor would be voided since illegals were involved.

that means that if the illegals messed up on the job, you have no legal recourse. the courts will not even address your case.
Cat74

United States

#235 May 27, 2013
We hired someone to clean the house, and she provided proper papers right away. There is a number you can call to verify their legal status. That is what I don't understand. Why would you hire a criminal when there are millions of people in this county legally, and they work just as hard. We pay her the same as we paid the woman from an agency, but she is really a harder worker. My husband said we will give her a raise after 90 days.
Dee Dee Dee

Coopersburg, PA

#236 May 28, 2013
libertarian4321 wrote:
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How some of you manage to get through life, I'll never know. It must be a struggle for you to sit up and take nourishment, let alone do anything more complex, with your limited intellects.
Here's the deal, genius. If I hire an AMERICAN contractor, and he hires a pile of illegals, I have done nothing wrong. Read that slowly, wipe the drool from your chin, then read it again. Let it sink in.
As a homeowner I have NO REQUIREMENT to ascertain the immigration status of the employees of a contractor I hire.
That's the beauty of the system. The homeowner has no liability.
The contractor could, potentially, face fines, but we both know he has a better chance of winning the lottery than being convicted of hiring illegals.
If you think you have no liability for illegal aliens being injured while working at your home you are a fool. That is the beauty of the system. The lawyers can go after everybody involved and if the contractor is hiring illegals and running a fly by night business he surly has any assets well hidden incase something goes wrong.
In fact even if the worker is an American citizen if the contractor is hiring under the table and one of his workers is injured while working on your property you will be held liable. Hell you could even loose your double wide.
If you think that insulting me will change the facts then you are even more of a fool than you posts here indicate. All your childish insult do is show how ignorant you are. Now go back to work and remember to ask if they want fries with their order.
I Juan To Kill You

Alhambra, CA

#237 May 28, 2013
Job stealing illegals like Juan are the reason that millions of American citizens are out of work and wages in the construction industry have been cut in half. In a just world he would be arrested along with his employers and deported back to the shithole he came from. If he came back a second time the penalty would be death.

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