DHS secretary says unaccompanied kids...

DHS secretary says unaccompanied kids show need for reform

There are 116 comments on the Windsor Beacon story from Jun 12, 2014, titled DHS secretary says unaccompanied kids show need for reform. In it, Windsor Beacon reports that:

The only way unaccompanied immigrant children in the United States will be allowed to stay here is if they can find a parent in the country, Homeland Security Jeh Johnson suggested in a news conference Thursday.

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#50 Jun 24, 2014
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Many of their parents are here in the U. S. the children should be reunited with their parents.
They need to be reunited with their parents in their country of origin after they are summarily removed as is written in our current laws.
wild man

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#51 Jun 24, 2014
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<quoted text>Oh, my silly friend, after 29 years of working at the local educational establishement, I retired to live a carefree life and to enjoy my grandbaby. I have worked all through high school and in a preschool before landing the job of my dreams. Not that I owe you an explanation, but I have paid my dues and my taxes and have supported losers like you my entire working life. So, kindly shut your yapper and do your job, whatever that may be. It appears that it is YOU who spends an inordinate amount of time here making the most repusive as well and inane comments out of most of the
posters who come here to state their views. Further, don't expect to get respect when you show none.
Well said. I served this country for 30 years. Worked as a teen in jobs that used to be done by kids who needed extra spending money for simple things like a car or dates or musical equipment. Now those jobs are mostly gone. Heck I worked next to a 60 yr old single lady who was happy to have some extra spending money but no longer. I raised four kids on a military salary.

You are spot on with the repulsive/inane comments he makes but then his only mission here is to inflame or like amigo just to see his name on the forum. Both of them do nothing more than get more Americans awake and standing up against illegal aliens than ever before. Congress has a 7% approval rating. Now why could that be? Oh they don't listen to legal tax paying Americans who are fed up with supporting illegals aliens taking money from what they should be using for their own families and future generations not future generations of illegal aliens who will never become or want to become American.

Oh wait juan will be back in with his "I've been Americanized" in....Notice no one missed him during his absence. He will never discuss any issue rationally or put forth facts to support his ludicrous assertions.
Memo From Turner

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#52 Jun 24, 2014
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>They need to be reunited with their parents in their country of origin after they are summarily removed as is written in our current laws.
There is a long legal process involved. I have never heard anybody describe it a "summarily". Under current law it takes many years.

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#53 Jun 24, 2014
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There is a long legal process involved. I have never heard anybody describe it a "summarily". Under current law it takes many years.
That's the problem, it should be done summarily...if one enters without permission, one should summarily be removed. I like the word...it sounds right in this circumstance. I like the way you respond to my comments now. I feel that I can say things now, and even if you don't agree, you don't crucify me when I say them. Thank you. We once got along, maybe we can again some time soon.

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#54 Jun 25, 2014
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Well said. I served this country for 30 years. Worked as a teen in jobs that used to be done by kids who needed extra spending money for simple things like a car or dates or musical equipment. Now those jobs are mostly gone. Heck I worked next to a 60 yr old single lady who was happy to have some extra spending money but no longer. I raised four kids on a military salary.
You are spot on with the repulsive/inane comments he makes but then his only mission here is to inflame or like amigo just to see his name on the forum. Both of them do nothing more than get more Americans awake and standing up against illegal aliens than ever before. Congress has a 7% approval rating. Now why could that be? Oh they don't listen to legal tax paying Americans who are fed up with supporting illegals aliens taking money from what they should be using for their own families and future generations not future generations of illegal aliens who will never become or want to become American.
Oh wait juan will be back in with his "I've been Americanized" in....Notice no one missed him during his absence. He will never discuss any issue rationally or put forth facts to support his ludicrous assertions.
Wild, it appears that we have done our share of work, and should not be lambasted by one who supposedly working here without papers and has admitted to being fed by the taxpayer thanks to kids born on American soil to illegal parents. Whether this guy is the real deal or not, I will not be talked to in such a way as if I have been a welfarre mooch my entire life. The fact of the matter is, I have workled most of my life and am proud to have held even the scrub jobs until I had the education and skills needed for the job I loved for so many years. Common Core and the lack of discipline and respect is the main reason I reluctantly hung it up. What was once a joy, became something that burned me out. I pray for our teachers, as their job has only gotten harder and harder.

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#55 Jun 25, 2014
Goodness, s/b: welfare, worked...
Memo From Turner

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#56 Jun 25, 2014
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>That's the problem, it should be done summarily...if one enters without permission, one should summarily be removed. I like the word...it sounds right in this circumstance. I like the way you respond to my comments now. I feel that I can say things now, and even if you don't agree, you don't crucify me when I say them. Thank you. We once got along, maybe we can again some time soon.
Believe it or not they are pretty much getting summary justice already.

The problem everywhere in immigration is that although we continually add border patrol staff funding is cut to every other group involved. This includes the ICE and consulate staff that handle requests for visa as well as in the immigration courts. Even as the problem gets worse the tea party insists on cutting funding further. This is a by-product.

As for legal immigration this results in huge backlogs. The US consulate in Mexico is famous for their ten year waits, but they are far from the worst. In the Philippines it takes 30 years to get a legal visa. If there were more people handing these requests they could be handled in a reasonable amount of time and people may not consider the illegal options.

As for enforcement it is even worse. There are a total of 220 immigration court judges in the entire country. Each judge is responsible for an average of 1500 cases. They have not added any judges in years and do not even replace retiring judges. This is a huge issue since more than half of the current judges are past retirement age. Many stay on the job out of sense of duty because they know they will not be replaced.

As you know I work with human trafficking victims. Occasionally I am in immigration court as an observer. Recently I was accompanying a person who had testified against traffickers in China and was requesting asylum because it would not be safe for her to return home. While we were waiting there was another case called. The woman had waited four years for her court date and this was supposed to be the last appearance where the judge would either rule for or against her request. The judge had a couple of reasonable questions and the applicant had reasonable responses. They went back and forth for a few minutes and then the judge looked at the clock and said they would have to set a new court date in three years to follow-up on this. The judge had 28 cases on her morning docket and all had to be heard that morning.

Even though these cases can take many years to play out it is estimated that on average only seven minutes is spent in the court room on each case. That is summary justice for sure, but because of the way the laws are currently written and the available staff it takes too long.

Obama is probably going to send a bunch of judges to the border to expedite things, but it is only a band-aid. Besides that it will result in thousands of other cases being delayed further.
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#57 Jun 26, 2014
DHS is AWESOME!!! ;)

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#58 Jun 26, 2014
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Believe it or not they are pretty much getting summary justice already.
The problem everywhere in immigration is that although we continually add border patrol staff funding is cut to every other group involved. This includes the ICE and consulate staff that handle requests for visa as well as in the immigration courts. Even as the problem gets worse the tea party insists on cutting funding further. This is a by-product.
As for legal immigration this results in huge backlogs. The US consulate in Mexico is famous for their ten year waits, but they are far from the worst. In the Philippines it takes 30 years to get a legal visa. If there were more people handing these requests they could be handled in a reasonable amount of time and people may not consider the illegal options.
As for enforcement it is even worse. There are a total of 220 immigration court judges in the entire country. Each judge is responsible for an average of 1500 cases. They have not added any judges in years and do not even replace retiring judges. This is a huge issue since more than half of the current judges are past retirement age. Many stay on the job out of sense of duty because they know they will not be replaced.
As you know I work with human trafficking victims. Occasionally I am in immigration court as an observer. Recently I was accompanying a person who had testified against traffickers in China and was requesting asylum because it would not be safe for her to return home. While we were waiting there was another case called. The woman had waited four years for her court date and this was supposed to be the last appearance where the judge would either rule for or against her request. The judge had a couple of reasonable questions and the applicant had reasonable responses. They went back and forth for a few minutes and then the judge looked at the clock and said they would have to set a new court date in three years to follow-up on this. The judge had 28 cases on her morning docket and all had to be heard that morning.
Even though these cases can take many years to play out it is estimated that on average only seven minutes is spent in the court room on each case. That is summary justice for sure, but because of the way the laws are currently written and the available staff it takes too long.
Obama is probably going to send a bunch of judges to the border to expedite things, but it is only a band-aid. Besides that it will result in thousands of other cases being delayed further.
Don't you think that when Obama enacted his prosecutorial deferrals, he sent the wrong message? Instead of looking the other way, shouldn't agents be allowed to do the job they were hired? I really feel for those who try to enter the right way, and it seems that the people who don't are the reason the courts are so clogged. What in your estimation would be the most suitable manner in which to curtail further illegal entry, and what should be done with these children, who are being sent to be with family member/members, who are here illegally, at the taxpayers' expense? Why should these kids be given prsecutroial defferals when many of them made the choice themselves to enter? This entire issue is making me crazy...I do feel for the kids, but at the same time, we should not be expected to pick up the darned tab every time one of them enters this country illegals and gets a hangnail.
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#59 Jun 26, 2014
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<quoted text>Don't you think that when Obama enacted his prosecutorial deferrals, he sent the wrong message? Instead of looking the other way, shouldn't agents be allowed to do the job they were hired? I really feel for those who try to enter the right way, and it seems that the people who don't are the reason the courts are so clogged. What in your estimation would be the most suitable manner in which to curtail further illegal entry, and what should be done with these children, who are being sent to be with family member/members, who are here illegally, at the taxpayers' expense? Why should these kids be given prsecutroial defferals when many of them made the choice themselves to enter? This entire issue is making me crazy...I do feel for the kids, but at the same time, we should not be expected to pick up the darned tab every time one of them enters this country illegals and gets a hangnail.
The Senate has already passed a bill that would change the law so that this is no longer possible. All Congress has to do is agree to at least take a look at it. Until then they will still continue to take advantage of the asylum law that was passed in 1921.

I see on Topix and FOX many people keep linking this to the prosecution deferrals, but there is no connection. In order to qualify for the prosecutor deferrals a person had to have came to the United States before age 16, have lived here for at least five years, and either attend school, are high school graduates or are military veterans in good standing.

None of the people coming now would qualify for this.

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#60 Jun 26, 2014
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The Senate has already passed a bill that would change the law so that this is no longer possible. All Congress has to do is agree to at least take a look at it. Until then they will still continue to take advantage of the asylum law that was passed in 1921.
I see on Topix and FOX many people keep linking this to the prosecution deferrals, but there is no connection. In order to qualify for the prosecutor deferrals a person had to have came to the United States before age 16, have lived here for at least five years, and either attend school, are high school graduates or are military veterans in good standing.
None of the people coming now would qualify for this.
The point is THEY and THEIR FAMILIES think they will qualify which is why they are flooding the border. Somebody posted inaccurate info or some relative misinterpreted the deferral bebacle to mean any and all who come will be granted a free pass. Somebod or some group is to blame for the misinformation...this isn't coincidental.
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#61 Jun 26, 2014
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>The point is THEY and THEIR FAMILIES think they will qualify which is why they are flooding the border. Somebody posted inaccurate info or some relative misinterpreted the deferral bebacle to mean any and all who come will be granted a free pass. Somebod or some group is to blame for the misinformation...this isn't coincidental.
So somebody in a foreign country started a false rumor and that is somehow Obama's fault?

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So somebody in a foreign country started a false rumor and that is somehow Obama's fault?
I think his handling of this situation has only encouraged more to come. Have you seen the "cheat sheets" these kids, I use the term loosely, as there are many parents entering with these kids are using. Interesting how they are being coached to say the right things to enable them to remain.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-26712...

There is something very fishy about this surge.
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#63 Jun 26, 2014
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<quoted text>I think his handling of this situation has only encouraged more to come. Have you seen the "cheat sheets" these kids, I use the term loosely, as there are many parents entering with these kids are using. Interesting how they are being coached to say the right things to enable them to remain.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-26712...
There is something very fishy about this surge.
That's what traffickers do. They get people into the country. I explained this in detail previously. Many of these people came with filled-out ICE I-489 forms Once they make their asylum requests there is a whole industry in the US to help them. Every nationality has their own groups that specialize in asylum issues for people from those countries. Russians, Chinese, Koreans, South American. Like it or not this is all very much legal.

To suggest people are encouraged by Obama's immigration policies is wrong. Obama has been quite clear in his policy. He has always said that the supported immigration reform and would sign it into law. The Senate bill says that it only applies to people in the US on or before December 31, 2011. You can not be any clear than that.

The Republicans on the other hand have been all over the place. A year ago after the autopsy they were ALL in favor of reform. Now they have changed their mind. Sometimes. Other times they favor it. Kind of. Maybe. Maybe not.

Nobody other than the traffickers are encouraging anybody to come here, but if you are concerned about people giving mixed message I think you are looking in the wrong place.

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#67 Jul 3, 2014
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I've been here almost 16 years now, I deserve the same benefits and respect any citizen should get. Those of us who have been here for so long will not accept anything but amnesty.
Take your sob fake story back to soup city, mexihole...nobody cared when you were posting before and we don't know. Better yet go commit seppuku you worthless wanker.

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29 years, just couldn't take the pressure any longer, now on the government cheese.
That was just at my last job, foolio, I have been working since I was 16. This coming from one who proudly filled his gut with food purchased with foodstamps. Never had them, plus we paid for our kids' college. Can YOU ever make that claim????

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I've been here almost 16 years now, I deserve the same benefits and respect any citizen should get. Those of us who have been here for so long will not accept anything but amnesty.
16 years ? liar ! the messiah's lying has taught you that lying will get you everywhere! so you do the same ! supposedly you were brought here as (" an infant") your own words, so 16 years ago? and already a kid you left behind in Texas AND DON'T SUPPORT ! because the kid doesn't look like you ! thats probably a true blessing. You left Texas because the girl was after you for child support which you had no intention of supporting and expecting us tax payers to handle for you including your loser girlfriend. You also had pending hospital bill accrued by you when you supposedly fell & broke your hip. Need I go on ? you don't remember your lies!? yeah, I know way too many for ANYONE to remember ! well we don't want to hear your sobbing story. You want that hospital bill taken care of by us of course, and you wonder why Americans will ever see the light, and accept you? well all of you put together have darkened our skies so bad, impossible for the sunlight to come through thus making it hard for us to embrace you.
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#72 Jul 8, 2014
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This is all old material, no need to bring all this up again. I am happy here in Florida.
You mean like all your fake crapola from a while back...go commit seppuku pendejo.

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VIVA to our DHD Amigos!! LOL!!!

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VIVA to our DHD Amigos!! LOL!!!
You forgot the A...as in ADHD amigos...

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