House proposal to further criminalize...

House proposal to further criminalize illegal immigration criticized

There are 85 comments on the USA Today story from Jun 17, 2013, titled House proposal to further criminalize illegal immigration criticized. In it, USA Today reports that:

In 2005, a bill passed by the U.S. House of Representatives made being in the country illegally a federal crime, prompting massive protests in major cities across the country.

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#67 Jun 20, 2013
Speeders Kill Kids wrote:
They come here to steal jobs, govt benefits, and IDs from the american people. And dems say they're not criminals.
Their presence here has hurt this country on many levels, yet the goons in DC try to push them further down our throats. What's in it for them? Just a rhetorical question. Gifting them with the ability to remain legally, in a job they never should have been working, will only cost this country more that the fools in DC are willing to disclose. It's all garbage, but that is all we have gotten from our government since the early 70's.
Dropkick Murphy

Rochester, NY

#69 Jun 20, 2013
But, how will the drug cartels establish more footholds?
NYM8387

Lawrence, MA

#70 Jun 20, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
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There is no proposed amnesty in any reform bill that is a well known fact and, I agree with you that talking about amnesty benefit is completely nonsense.
Anything less than deportation is amnesty.matter of fact,letting them stay here illegally after the Bill is crushed,is amnesty
NYM8387

Lawrence, MA

#71 Jun 20, 2013
spud wrote:
<quoted text>It's crazy how RC can take anything and turn it into an irrational reason to support amnesty. Next thing you know, RC will be saying something like 'illegal aliens who commit child molestation, DUI and deal drugs are only acting out of frustration and would quit all that if only they could be granted amnesty'. But in reality, these Republicans are on the right track by trying to attach penalties to the act of being in this country illegally.
Enforcing the Law is the only thing the vast majority of Americans want,but I guess we're just going to have to settle for the crushing of the Bill until 2016.
chicagonut

Coachella, CA

#72 Jun 20, 2013
Gary wrote:
Seems unfair that thousands of employers almost
put out the red carpet for illegal labor and we
make their being here a crime.
What? You do know that both the employers and the illegals are breaking the law, don't you? You do know that they are both screwing an American out of job by this illegal practice, don't you? Or don't Americans count? Why the hell do you think we have immigration and labor laws in the first place? This country belongs to Americans not illegal foreigners and those laws are in place to protect Americans.
chicagonut

Coachella, CA

#73 Jun 20, 2013
Gary wrote:
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Almost as stupid as the House Republicans coming up with
a bill to repeal Obamacare for the 37th time.
Anything but jobs.
And just what job creations are Obama and his fellow Democrats working on? How is amnestying millions of illegal aliens to allow them to take American jobs, job creation for Americans?
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#74 Jun 20, 2013
Another Day wrote:
<quoted text>See this is why I don't like Liberals! Hey moron he is the Senate Majority leader and he makes the call on what is put on the floor to vote on. He doesn't need to be from your state dumbazz.
No shit, shit for brains.

That's why I don't like teabaggers.

I'll tell Harry next time I see him.

What a DUMBSHIT teabagger.
Juan Too

Lynchburg, VA

#75 Jun 20, 2013
Guerrilla Humorist wrote:
waaaahhh~.
Those employers are lucky they don't wind up in prison, plumping the pockets of Professional Jailers.<quoted text>
Why don't they just hire REAL Americans @ decent wages?
Now why in the world would a business owner not hire someone that works hard, doesn't take breaks, and works for minimum wage, and instead hire someone that is lazy, fat, wants to take breaks all the time, takes time-off for every little reason, and demands a high wage?

It just doesn't make sense. None at all.
ronnie

Salt Lake City, UT

#77 Jun 20, 2013
Juan Too wrote:
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Now why in the world would a business owner not hire someone that works hard, doesn't take breaks, and works for minimum wage, and instead hire someone that is lazy, fat, wants to take breaks all the time, takes time-off for every little reason, and demands a high wage?
It just doesn't make sense. None at all.
That's exactly why America is going to hell. We used to work for a living wage, not 39 hours and no benefit's. This behavior has lowered the Standard of living in this Country. At least with some representation, a family of four could live with some kind of integrity. Buy a home and a couple of car's take a vacation and put kids through college. You're ill perceived attitude has destroyed the fabric of this Country, and deeply separated, the have's from the have not's. Americans deserve to live in a developed Democracy, not some shanty town in some third world hay seed community. We worked for more than 5 bucks an hour dude.!!!!!And lived like human being's, why can't you see that.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#78 Jun 20, 2013
ronnie wrote:
<quoted text>That's exactly why America is going to hell. We used to work for a living wage, not 39 hours and no benefit's. This behavior has lowered the Standard of living in this Country. At least with some representation, a family of four could live with some kind of integrity. Buy a home and a couple of car's take a vacation and put kids through college. You're ill perceived attitude has destroyed the fabric of this Country, and deeply separated, the have's from the have not's. Americans deserve to live in a developed Democracy, not some shanty town in some third world hay seed community. We worked for more than 5 bucks an hour dude.!!!!!And lived like human being's, why can't you see that.
Because he's a teabagger,

Teabaggers think what's good for corporations is good for America.

EVERYONE else, knows different.
Cat74

United States

#79 Jun 20, 2013
Tell me, if it wasn't for corporations where would millions of people work, and support their families? We already have too many Government workers. Some one has to work and pay taxes so these lay abouts can be on welfare, and unemployment. Did you build you own car? Or was it built in an overseas corporation? Are overseas corporations better then American corporations? I have liberal friends that retired from a corporation with 80% of their very nice salary, yet they complain all the time about our corporations. Liberals are ungrateful wretches.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#80 Jun 21, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
Tell me, if it wasn't for corporations where would millions of people work, and support their families? We already have too many Government workers. Some one has to work and pay taxes so these lay abouts can be on welfare, and unemployment. Did you build you own car? Or was it built in an overseas corporation? Are overseas corporations better then American corporations? I have liberal friends that retired from a corporation with 80% of their very nice salary, yet they complain all the time about our corporations. Liberals are ungrateful wretches.
Where they used to before Walmart , Home Depot, Toyota and Kamatsu came along and put millions of people out of good paying middle class jobs and give them those first class minimum wage jobs.

It's good if you have retired friends making a pension, they are among the few, most pensions were raided, squandered in the stock market or turned over to government and the lifelong employee is left with nothing, going back to work for minimum wage until they die.

But we are grateful to Reagan and the rest of the American sellout republicans that made all those minimum wage jobs possible.

While giving billions of taxpayer monies to the very people who put their neighbors out of work.

Teabaggers won't be happy until they turn America into Bangladesh.

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#81 Jun 21, 2013
chicagonut wrote:
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And just what job creations are Obama and his fellow Democrats working on? How is amnestying millions of illegal aliens to allow them to take American jobs, job creation for Americans?
I guess this poster must be referring to more lame government jobs that will be created to process these folks for their green cards. The problem is, these government workers will probably not even bother to research the documents and applications and green light a bunch of people who have no business being allowed to remain here. Any way you dice it, it is a joke, but nobody is laughing.
Cat74

United States

#83 Jun 21, 2013
You have been sold a bill of goods about corporations so you won't feel bad when you lay around on the government dole. The companies you mentioned provide millions of jobs, far more then the little nothing jobs you referred to. And guess what? Unlike Government jobs that take from the tax payer their jobs provide tax money.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#85 Jun 21, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
You have been sold a bill of goods about corporations so you won't feel bad when you lay around on the government dole. The companies you mentioned provide millions of jobs, far more then the little nothing jobs you referred to. And guess what? Unlike Government jobs that take from the tax payer their jobs provide tax money.
Yes of course.

Privatize the profits.

Socialize the losses.

It's the teabagger way.

The subsidies Wal-Mart lobbies for run the whole gamut: free or reduced-price land, infrastructure assistance, tax increment financing (TIF), property tax abatements or discounts, state corporate income tax credits, sales tax rebates, enterprise zone tax breaks, job training funds, and low-interest tax-exempt loans. The most deals and dollars were found in Texas (30 deals worth $108 million) and Illinois (29 deals worth $102 million).

And because of poor disclosure in most states, this could be just the tip of the iceberg.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#86 Jun 21, 2013
published by the state of Massachusetts reveal that Walmart has 4,327 employees -- about one-quarter of its workforce -- enrolled in the state's Medicaid program. Insuring these employees and their dependents costs taxpayers $14.6 million a year. Target has an even larger share -- more than one-third of its Massachusetts workforce, or 2,610 people -- enrolled.
Eligibility is based on several factors, but adults are generally eligible for Medicaid in Massachusetts if their income is below 133 percent of the federal poverty level, or about $15,000 for a single person. Children are eligible when their families earn less than 150 percent of the poverty level.
Of the 50 companies with the most employees on Medicaid in Massachusetts, almost half are retail and restaurant chains. The list includes CVS, Home Depot, May Department Stores, Sears, Kohl's, Walgreen, Lowe's, and Best Buy.
The public cost of ensuring that employees of these companies have health insurance and enough to live on represents, in effect, a hidden corporate subsidy.

Poor teabagger.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#87 Jun 21, 2013
City officials will subsidize construction of a $31.9 million Home Depot to be built at Roosevelt Road and Clinton Street on the Near West Side.

"We are trying to see this area redeveloped as mixed use, and have several other retail projects coming up," said Pete Scales, spokesman for the Chicago Department of Planning and Development. "We have been drawing retailers to open all along [Roosevelt] corridor.



"There is a new Jewel on Roosevelt east of State, a Dominick's opened next door [to the Home Depot] development site in 2000, and several smaller retailers have opened or are opening to the west ... All of that is needed to serve the South Loop and new neighborhoods like University Village," Scales said.

The Chicago Community Development Commission earlier this month approved $5.4 million in tax increment financing (TIF) subsidy for the project. The Atlanta-based home improvement retailer will build a 134,000-square-foot store with a 28,000-square-foot garden center on a partially vacant 5.16-acre site at 541-55 W. Roosevelt. The retailer will build a landscaped parking deck on top of the building.

Poor teabagger.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#88 Jun 21, 2013
a state and local incentive package that "made it very economically attractive for us," said Home Depot executive Kent Knutson.
"We're very pleased with our agreement with Washington County and the state of Maryland," Vice President for Government Relations Knutson explained in announcing decision. "The governor's economic development team and county officials have been extremely supportive and made Hagerstown the clear choice for our new distribution center."
State and county officials didn't provide full details about all of the incentives that were offered. They did say, however, that Home Dept will receive US$405,000 in assistance for what they described as the project's "first phase." (Home Depot officials didn't discuss any further Hagerstown expansion plans in announcing the distribution center.)
The company's subsidy package includes $330,000 in two conditional loans:$300,000 from the Maryland Department of Business and Economic Development (DBED at www.choosemaryland.org ) and $30,000 from Washington County ( www.washco-md.net ). Those loans, however, will convert to outright grants if the distribution center meets its stated hiring goals.
In addition, the DBED is providing a $75,000 employee-training grant.

Poor teabagger.

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#89 Jun 21, 2013
tea-baggage wrote:
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Corporations don’t pay taxes – they avoid paying them – with the help of well-paid armies of lawyers and accountants. And they bilk the taxpayers for all sorts of corporate welfare while forcing undue tax burden on them via their legendary tax avoidance prowess. And they screw over the vast majority of their employees with stagnant wages for the last dozen or so years – and then of course eventual outsourcing and layoffs. These corporations you display such sympathy and admiration for largely run the government – via lobbyists and corruption. You seem to actually revel in your own ignorance and stupidity.
"Exxon: Of $10 billion in total taxes paid in the U.S.,$3 billion is income tax.
ConocoPhillips:
Pretax income:$19.8 billion, Provision for income taxes:$8.3 billion, Net income:$11.4 billion Tax rate: 42%(Big Oil pays the highest tax rates)

Chevron: Pretax income:$32 billion, Provision for income taxes:$12.9 billion, Net income:$19.1 billion, Tax rate: 40%"
Read further:
http://www.forbes.com/2011/04/13/ge-exxon-wal...

Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#90 Jun 21, 2013
May 11, 2011

Exxon Mobil registered an average 17.6 percent federal effective corporate tax rate on its annual earnings in the three years spanning 2008 to 2010. Its average domestic profits exceeded $6.8 billion. And as a 2011 Citizens for Tax Justice report points out:

Over the past two years, ExxonMobil reported $9,910 million in pretax U.S. profits. But it enjoyed so many tax subsidies that its federal income tax bill was only $39 million—a tax rate of only 0.4 percent.

Even when Exxon Mobil had a record profit of $40 billion in 2008 due to record oil prices it had only a 31 percent effective tax rate. That’s 13 percent lower than the maximum 35 percent despite being Exxon Mobil’s fifth year as the top corporate earner in Fortune 500’s annual listing. The company paid no taxes at all to the U.S. federal government in 2009 on its domestic profits of nearly $2.6 billion. It appears that they avoided the tax man that year by legally funneling their profits through wholly owned subsidiaries in countries like the Cayman Islands, and reinvesting their earnings overseas.

Exxon Mobil’s accounting methods mask its relatively low effective tax rate. According to CNN Money the $3.1 billion in taxes the company claims to have paid since January 2011 includes both federal and state gasoline taxes—that are really paid by drivers—as well as employee payroll taxes.

“Exxon is counting as part of its tax burden [taxes] that it simply does not pay,” making the exorbitant subsidies the company receives even more unnecessary.

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