House proposal to further criminalize illegal immigration criticized

Jun 17, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: USA Today

In 2005, a bill passed by the U.S. House of Representatives made being in the country illegally a federal crime, prompting massive protests in major cities across the country.

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magadala

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"Snap your fingers and they would all be criminals," said Kamal Essaheb,"

You can't make this stuff up! I thought they already were criminals. They are making it sound like EVERY illegal alien, the untold millions, are here to stay! This is incredible!!!

Of course, they don't want to come up with "draconian" laws to make them uncomfortable...

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whats wrong with that? do whatever it takes to get the country back,heck go further and declare war on illegal immigration instead of what we have now which is a war on our laws.
Here we go again

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What war? You elderly people can't star a war behind the monitor.
It takes guts to do that! If you really want war the border is full of drug lords from world wide they can probably take your invitation.
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This kind of political acrobatics give good reason to believe that immigration reform is going to happen,who ever believes that this is ever going to be law of the land is delusional, the Senate would not even look at this proposal at best.
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Reality Check wrote:
This kind of political acrobatics give good reason to believe that immigration reform is going to happen,who ever believes that this is ever going to be law of the land is delusional, the Senate would not even look at this proposal at best.
no,thinking the senates amnesty Bill will even be considered in the house is what I call delusional. It's sad to see people who would benefit from amnesty,post nonsense on this forum
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'I REST MY CASE'. I've thought all along the bill if illegals bother to apply, will hopefully bring out the criminal's. Are those people in DC that dumb???? If an illegal alien lives under our radar, works and get's paid under the table, is never accountable to anyone except perhaps relatives in Mexihell, what makes these gang of 8 believe anyone will rush to their nearest immigration office to apply? They've always enjoyed being undercover. They hope legitimizing some will help us get rid of the criminals. They will not be identified anyway... Criminals live off women, and anchor for welfare.

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Here we go again wrote:
What war? You elderly people can't star a war behind the monitor.
It takes guts to do that! If you really want war the border is full of drug lords from world wide they can probably take your invitation.
ha,have to wait and see. i may be getting older yet can still vote have my say and fire a rifle as well as i did for the gov and still swing a sledgehammer pounding stakes.

support for illegal aliens shows no values of U.S. citizenship or loyalty of country.
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Enforce all laws on the books NOW. Wether its local tresspassing laws or ILLEGAL entries or over stays. Strictly enforce the laws on the books now.

You don't need "sweeping" changes or an "historic" bill. There is a path/process twards citizenship.

The vote seekers need to stir their goo elsewhere.
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sheepleloveroyalty wrote:
Enforce all laws on the books NOW. Wether its local tresspassing laws or ILLEGAL entries or over stays. Strictly enforce the laws on the books now.
You don't need "sweeping" changes or an "historic" bill. There is a path/process twards citizenship.
The vote seekers need to stir their goo elsewhere.
Thank you, very good comment.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

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Reality Check wrote:
This kind of political acrobatics give good reason to believe that immigration reform is going to happen,who ever believes that this is ever going to be law of the land is delusional, the Senate would not even look at this proposal at best.
This IS political acrobatics at its worst.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/201...
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NYM8387 wrote:
<quoted text> no,thinking the senates amnesty Bill will even be considered in the house is what I call delusional. It's sad to see people who would benefit from amnesty,post nonsense on this forum
It's crazy how RC can take anything and turn it into an irrational reason to support amnesty. Next thing you know, RC will be saying something like 'illegal aliens who commit child molestation, DUI and deal drugs are only acting out of frustration and would quit all that if only they could be granted amnesty'. But in reality, these Republicans are on the right track by trying to attach penalties to the act of being in this country illegally.
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Rep. Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, and Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., who chairs the chamber's immigration subcommittee, are proposing a measure that makes it a federal crime - a misdemeanor - to be "unlawfully present in the United States."

Who will hand out the tickets?

Will they also make them sign a second promissory note to pay it?

It is already a federal misdemeanor crime under current law to illegally enter the United States. The proposal would make it a crime if someones stays beyond their visa, and it would eliminate a current five-year statute of limitations on prosecution of such crimes.

That bill was easy to write.

All you needed was a copier and a date change.

Goodlatte said the bill is not an attempt to criminalize the 11 million unauthorized immigrants already living in the country.

It's NOT?

Oh well, forget it.

DUMBASSES.
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Wall Street Government wrote:
Rep. Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, and Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., who chairs the chamber's immigration subcommittee, are proposing a measure that makes it a federal crime - a misdemeanor - to be "unlawfully present in the United States."
Who will hand out the tickets?
Will they also make them sign a second promissory note to pay it?
It is already a federal misdemeanor crime under current law to illegally enter the United States. The proposal would make it a crime if someones stays beyond their visa, and it would eliminate a current five-year statute of limitations on prosecution of such crimes.
That bill was easy to write.
All you needed was a copier and a date change.
Goodlatte said the bill is not an attempt to criminalize the 11 million unauthorized immigrants already living in the country.
It's NOT?
Oh well, forget it.
DUMBASSES.
It should criminalize the 11-20 million illegals in this country. But I think the main reason for trying to pass this bill is to send a message that we DO care about the presence of illegal aliens and that there will be consequences. Actually, this bill is a breath of fresh air, especially when compared S744.
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spud wrote:
<quoted text>It should criminalize the 11-20 million illegals in this country. But I think the main reason for trying to pass this bill is to send a message that we DO care about the presence of illegal aliens and that there will be consequences. Actually, this bill is a breath of fresh air, especially when compared S744.
Aren't they ALREADY criminals?

Goodlatte said the bill is not an attempt to criminalize the 11 million unauthorized immigrants already living in the country.

Apparently not.

What consequences?

Deportation?
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Start by sealing the border, then think about getting rid of illegals.

Until then, they would have better luck herding cats.
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NYM8387 wrote:
<quoted text> no,thinking the senates amnesty Bill will even be considered in the house is what I call delusional. It's sad to see people who would benefit from amnesty,post nonsense on this forum
There is no proposed amnesty in any reform bill that is a well known fact and, I agree with you that talking about amnesty benefit is completely nonsense.
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Wall Street Government wrote:
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Aren't they ALREADY criminals?
Goodlatte said the bill is not an attempt to criminalize the 11 million unauthorized immigrants already living in the country.
Apparently not.
What consequences?
Deportation?
The ones that overstay their visas aren't criminals. They can't be charged with a misdemeanor. But they should be able to be arrested and charged. That's what I'm saying. As far as securing the border first, that sounds good but as long as the magnets that attract illegals to this country aren't taken away, illegals will continue to take the risk, no matter how much border security there is. I think they need to secure the border and implement an Everify system that applies to all jobs and government assistance, simultaneously.
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spud wrote:
<quoted text>The ones that overstay their visas aren't criminals. They can't be charged with a misdemeanor. But they should be able to be arrested and charged. That's what I'm saying. As far as securing the border first, that sounds good but as long as the magnets that attract illegals to this country aren't taken away, illegals will continue to take the risk, no matter how much border security there is. I think they need to secure the border and implement an Everify system that applies to all jobs and government assistance, simultaneously.
I didn't know that.

Then again with illegals, they didn't have a visa in the first place.

With rampant identity theft, that can't be controlled, not sure how well that E-Verify system would work.

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The republicans are digging themselves a hole they will never get out of.
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Jaxxon wrote:
The republicans are digging themselves a hole they will never get out of.
President Obama is digging America a hole we will never get out of. He's been digging it $1,500 Billion deeper every year since he's been in office.

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