Obama: Americans 'Fed Up' With Washin...

Obama: Americans 'Fed Up' With Washington

There are 68 comments on the WLTX-TV Columbia story from Oct 17, 2013, titled Obama: Americans 'Fed Up' With Washington. In it, WLTX-TV Columbia reports that:

President Obama said Thursday there have been "no winners" in the government shutdown dispute, and lawmakers will have to work hard to regain the trust of Americans.

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Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#23 Oct 20, 2013
ima-Ilis Myka Ashanti wrote:
<quoted text> On top of being illiterate, you can't keep you're word either! on another post you claimed you wouldn't bother with my posts anymore because you couldn't makes heads or tails out of them and you wouldn't waste time responding to them. SO JUST SCREW OFF, no one here cares for your messiah "o" BUTT KISSING. He is a tyrant, a dictator AND my job is to serve the people which I do and my wages come from taxes my fellow Americans and myself pay. I don't OWE YOUR MESSIAH ONE DAMNED THING. I've had my job since your messiah came into this whole scenario and I will keep on serving my fellow Americans and continue to do my charity work for my fellow Americans in spite of your agonizing, deplorable anti-American hatred. Maybe you're in the wrong country? why don't you ask Putin for asylum? ANYWAY, JUST SCREW OFF.....you aren't worth any of anyone's time here. Again you ended up with your foot up your rear end and gagging yourself with it. LOL! have yourself a foul day. PS. maybe someone can read this for you since you can't read.
More blasphemy from a very bad person. The Messiah is named Jesus Christ. You should try reading his book sometime.

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#24 Oct 20, 2013
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>The problem is this guy will never accept responsibility for any of the mistakes he has made. Why is that? None of us are infallible and do make mistakes, save Obama that is. A good leader should be able to admit when he is wrong...not this guy.
You are correct. Obama has never admitted making a mistake. This is not a judgment on my part; it is a fact. Even liberals/Dems have to admit this.

If "A good leader should be able to admit when he is wrong..." well then, based on the fact that he has never admitted he was wrong, Obama is NOT a good leader. It's pure logic:

"A good leader should be able to admit when he is wrong.
Obama has never admitted his wrongs.
Therefore, Obama is not a good leader."

See? Pure logic.

So you can rest your case. You are correct.

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#25 Oct 20, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
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No I just do not have the patience for broken English and bizarre punctuation. On second though you should stick with your government job and have Obama take care of you. You would not stand a chance in the real world with your skill set and you would probably end up on welfare anyway. One way or the other the taxpayers end up supporting you.
I notice that you like to resort to personal ridicule and defamation of character to intimidate posters, by pointing out punctuation and broken English. Prolly spelling too.

REALLY?? Do you really want to go that route? That is absolutely hypocritical of self-proclaimed liberals like you, who have gone so far as filing lawsuits to change our vernacular from 9 letters to 23 letters -- e.g., from "Mongoloid" to "developmentally disabled" -- without ever changing one ounce of substance. Or trying to force sports teams to change their names because of perceived biases, e.g. the Washington Redskins.

Why are you wasting your time, money, and energy changing fluff and things that don't matter? Those resources could have been used towards research for a cure or for salaries of scientists. Instead, those resources went to fluff that didn't change anything. Mongoloids are still Mongoloids. The Washington Redskins are still a football team.

And now you are using the same fluff tactic on Ima, pointing out her punctuation and semantics? REALLY?? Spelling and semantics aside, we all understand what Ima is saying. Admit it: YOU DO TOO. Ima is speaking from her heart. Right or wrong, she is speaking from her heart. Only a jerk would deflect that heartfelt honesty to focus on punctuation. And THAT is being a bully. Listen, if you disagree with Ima, then debate on substance, NOT punctuation. Be a man. Behave with integrity and common sense. Stop your pettiness and obfuscation. Earn respect; don't demand it.

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#26 Oct 20, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
No I just do not have the patience for broken English and bizarre punctuation. On second though you should stick with your government job and have Obama take care of you. You would not stand a chance in the real world with your skill set and you would probably end up on welfare anyway. One way or the other the taxpayers end up supporting you.
FYI, since you ridicule posters' punctuation and semantics, here are the corrections to your own post [corrections in brackets and capitalized]:

"No [PERIOD] I just do not have the patience for broken English and bizarre punctuation.[DOUBLE SPACE] On second though [THOUGHT][COMMA] you should stick with your government job and have Obama take care of you.[DOUBLE SPACE] You would not stand a chance in the real world with your skill set and you would probably end up on welfare anyway.[DOUBLE SPACE] One way or the other [COMMA] the taxpayers end up supporting you."

That's 6 wrong punctuation marks and 1 spelling error on your part in just one paragraph. And you dare belittle Ima on the very topic you are deficient in? GIVE US A BREAK!

You will prolly twist my post to fit your agenda. Go ahead and try. Let me remind you that I am merely using your own rules against you. You ridicule other posters' punctuation, spelling, and semantics without even checking your own. Seems to me (and all the readers here as well) that what's good for the goose is not good for the gander where you are involved. THAT philosophy will not earn you respect from Topix readers. With continuous negative "Judge Its," it will affect you negatively. You will eventually be discouraged to post, to the point of oblivion. You will look back at your posts and realize that YOU were the cause of your own demise and inconsequentiality.

“Gloria Ad Caput Venire”

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#27 Oct 20, 2013
Purple Independent wrote:
<quoted text>
I notice that you like to resort to personal ridicule and defamation of character to intimidate posters, by pointing out punctuation and broken English. Prolly spelling too.
REALLY?? Do you really want to go that route? That is absolutely hypocritical of self-proclaimed liberals like you, who have gone so far as filing lawsuits to change our vernacular from 9 letters to 23 letters -- e.g., from "Mongoloid" to "developmentally disabled" -- without ever changing one ounce of substance. Or trying to force sports teams to change their names because of perceived biases, e.g. the Washington Redskins.
Why are you wasting your time, money, and energy changing fluff and things that don't matter? Those resources could have been used towards research for a cure or for salaries of scientists. Instead, those resources went to fluff that didn't change anything. Mongoloids are still Mongoloids. The Washington Redskins are still a football team.
And now you are using the same fluff tactic on Ima, pointing out her punctuation and semantics? REALLY?? Spelling and semantics aside, we all understand what Ima is saying. Admit it: YOU DO TOO. Ima is speaking from her heart. Right or wrong, she is speaking from her heart. Only a jerk would deflect that heartfelt honesty to focus on punctuation. And THAT is being a bully. Listen, if you disagree with Ima, then debate on substance, NOT punctuation. Be a man. Behave with integrity and common sense. Stop your pettiness and obfuscation. Earn respect; don't demand it.
Agree. Well stated.
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#28 Oct 20, 2013
positronium wrote:
<quoted text> Agree. Well stated.
Oh indeed.

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#29 Oct 20, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh indeed.
positronium wrote:
"Agree. Well stated."
Memo From Turner wrote:
"Oh indeed."

Memo From Turner, first of all, your punctuation is WRONG. That should have been "Oh [COMMA] indeed."

Not doing too well as a "self-appointed punctuation Nazi," are you? Feel like a fool now, do you? Ridiculing Ima on punctuation and broken English while you yourself do not have a mastery of these rules -- JUST TO DEFLECT YOUR DEFEAT IN DEBATE IS ABOMINABLE.

I also noticed that you replied to Positronium's comment to me, completely circumventing replying to me directly. What's up with that? Why can't you reply to me directly?

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

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#30 Oct 21, 2013
Purple Independent wrote:
<quoted text>
positronium wrote:
"Agree. Well stated."
Memo From Turner wrote:
"Oh indeed."
Memo From Turner, first of all, your punctuation is WRONG. That should have been "Oh [COMMA] indeed."
Not doing too well as a "self-appointed punctuation Nazi," are you? Feel like a fool now, do you? Ridiculing Ima on punctuation and broken English while you yourself do not have a mastery of these rules -- JUST TO DEFLECT YOUR DEFEAT IN DEBATE IS ABOMINABLE.
I also noticed that you replied to Positronium's comment to me, completely circumventing replying to me directly. What's up with that? Why can't you reply to me directly?
Memo was once somebody with whom one could actually carry on a decent conversation. He let us know what his personal pet projects were, and I was really impressed and touched by his concern for others. I ignored some of his negative comments, because I really thought that despite what he posts, he is a good person. Maybe I had him all wrong. I hope not.
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#31 Oct 21, 2013
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>Memo was once somebody with whom one could actually carry on a decent conversation. He let us know what his personal pet projects were, and I was really impressed and touched by his concern for others. I ignored some of his negative comments, because I really thought that despite what he posts, he is a good person. Maybe I had him all wrong. I hope not.
Teddy, I though we were tight and then you turned ugly on me. What is up with that? As you know I devote a significant amount of time and resources to combat human trafficking. It just amazes me that I am only person on these boards who makes an actual contribution to alleviating the problem while everybody else just rants on line. There is nothing wrong with ranting if that is all you can do, but when people just make stuff up I have to call them on it. I think you would agree it is a real problem and adding false information to the debate accomplishes nothing.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

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#32 Oct 21, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
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Teddy, I though we were tight and then you turned ugly on me. What is up with that? As you know I devote a significant amount of time and resources to combat human trafficking. It just amazes me that I am only person on these boards who makes an actual contribution to alleviating the problem while everybody else just rants on line. There is nothing wrong with ranting if that is all you can do, but when people just make stuff up I have to call them on it. I think you would agree it is a real problem and adding false information to the debate accomplishes nothing.
I had thought we had come to agreement that while we may disagree about some things, you still would respect my right to voice my concerns and opinions as I would yours. Then you felt the need to attack me. I remember what you told me, and tried to overlook those attacks, because I truly do regard what you do to be extremely valuable as well as noble. I would prefer that you just allow people to speak from their heart and experiences when they speak their mind, without having to make examples of them. I have stood up for those on the other side, when I felt the accusations were ridiculous, I took the heat and went on. I consider some of these folks to be my friends, even though we don't always see eye to eye. I would like to return to a semblance of civility with you, as it was much more pleasant then. I have learned much from those on the other side, and hope that can continue, and maybe some can learn from my point of view. I prefer it to insults and derision. We ARE we the people, and need to stop the bickering and start listening to the other side's concerns if we are ever to straighten out the problems we face. Have a good day...I mean that.
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#33 Oct 21, 2013
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>I had thought we had come to agreement that while we may disagree about some things, you still would respect my right to voice my concerns and opinions as I would yours. Then you felt the need to attack me. I remember what you told me, and tried to overlook those attacks, because I truly do regard what you do to be extremely valuable as well as noble. I would prefer that you just allow people to speak from their heart and experiences when they speak their mind, without having to make examples of them. I have stood up for those on the other side, when I felt the accusations were ridiculous, I took the heat and went on. I consider some of these folks to be my friends, even though we don't always see eye to eye. I would like to return to a semblance of civility with you, as it was much more pleasant then. I have learned much from those on the other side, and hope that can continue, and maybe some can learn from my point of view. I prefer it to insults and derision. We ARE we the people, and need to stop the bickering and start listening to the other side's concerns if we are ever to straighten out the problems we face. Have a good day...I mean that.
Everybody is entitled to their opinions, but facts are a different matter. I don't question people's opinions, but I do call people out when they present false facts. That is what the other poster's issue is about. If somebody has a valid argument they can state the truth and still make their point. Think of it as elevating the debate.

As for civility you seem to have a sliding scale. A couple of weeks ago there was somebody on here calling anybody who disagreed with them a Nazi. I pointed out that when you accuse somebody of being a Nazi you have already lost the debate. Seemed to be a civilized comment, but you went on for a long while why it is perfectly fine to call people Nazi's, but it is quite inappropriate to ask somebody to refrain from such comments. I was shocked and gave you a chance to rethink it, but you dug in after that and had some unkind comments. I guess we just have different ideas about comportment.

Finis.

Vet

Fayetteville, GA

#34 Oct 21, 2013
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>Memo was once somebody with whom one could actually carry on a decent conversation. He let us know what his personal pet projects were, and I was really impressed and touched by his concern for others. I ignored some of his negative comments, because I really thought that despite what he posts, he is a good person. Maybe I had him all wrong. I hope not.
To put it succinctly, the Memo Man is an arrogant pr*ck. Case closed.
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#35 Oct 21, 2013
Vet wrote:
<quoted text>To put it succinctly, the Memo Man is an arrogant pr*ck. Case closed.
The dumb ones always think the others are arrogant. Funny how that happens.
Vet

Fayetteville, GA

#36 Oct 21, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
The dumb ones always think the others are arrogant. Funny how that happens.
No , it's not funny, pr*ck. You are an arrogant pr*ck with nothing to support the arrogance. Case closed.
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#37 Oct 21, 2013
Vet wrote:
<quoted text>No , it's not funny, pr*ck. You are an arrogant pr*ck with nothing to support the arrogance. Case closed.
Besides ranting on line, what have you ever done in your life to deter illegal immigration? Just give me one example.Unless of course you are just talk.

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#38 Oct 22, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
Everybody is entitled to their opinions, but facts are a different matter. I don't question people's opinions, but I do call people out when they present false facts. That is what the other poster's issue is about. If somebody has a valid argument they can state the truth and still make their point. Think of it as elevating the debate.
As for civility you seem to have a sliding scale. A couple of weeks ago there was somebody on here calling anybody who disagreed with them a Nazi. I pointed out that when you accuse somebody of being a Nazi you have already lost the debate. Seemed to be a civilized comment, but you went on for a long while why it is perfectly fine to call people Nazi's, but it is quite inappropriate to ask somebody to refrain from such comments. I was shocked and gave you a chance to rethink it, but you dug in after that and had some unkind comments. I guess we just have different ideas about comportment.
Finis.
I don't think calling anybody names is okay...you had to have misinterpreted what I was trying to say. The term, Nazi, is offensive to most of us.
spud

Blakeslee, PA

#39 Oct 22, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
Everybody is entitled to their opinions, but facts are a different matter. I don't question people's opinions, but I do call people out when they present false facts. That is what the other poster's issue is about. If somebody has a valid argument they can state the truth and still make their point. Think of it as elevating the debate.
As for civility you seem to have a sliding scale. A couple of weeks ago there was somebody on here calling anybody who disagreed with them a Nazi. I pointed out that when you accuse somebody of being a Nazi you have already lost the debate. Seemed to be a civilized comment, but you went on for a long while why it is perfectly fine to call people Nazi's, but it is quite inappropriate to ask somebody to refrain from such comments. I was shocked and gave you a chance to rethink it, but you dug in after that and had some unkind comments. I guess we just have different ideas about comportment.
Finis.
This isn't a dispute over facts. It's a dispute over accepting responsibility. Obama can't just stand up there and moralize to Americans about Washington being broke without accepting his share of the blame. He painted himself as a helpless, third party bystander, pleading with congress to do what the American people need, as if he has his finger on the pulse of average citizens. In reality, he's just an egotistical and arrogant person who is in way over his head. We are more divided as a country than I can ever remember and his 'my way or the highway' attitude, concerning some very radical positions, is largely responsible for that division.

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#40 Oct 22, 2013
spud wrote:
<quoted text>This isn't a dispute over facts. It's a dispute over accepting responsibility. Obama can't just stand up there and moralize to Americans about Washington being broke without accepting his share of the blame. He painted himself as a helpless, third party bystander, pleading with congress to do what the American people need, as if he has his finger on the pulse of average citizens. In reality, he's just an egotistical and arrogant person who is in way over his head. We are more divided as a country than I can ever remember and his 'my way or the highway' attitude, concerning some very radical positions, is largely responsible for that division.
Thank you, as that is how I pretty see it. He owns the mess now, as HE is the president. He promised to fix things, and there were actually people out there who bought into his promises. The one promise he did keep was to change this country. We have become a country of dependency and a part-time labor force. His heath care bill was ill-conceived, yet it was pushed down our throats, even though most of the tools in DC had no freaking idea what was in it. I don't see this as having acted in the best interests of the people. He plays the favorite game, and the raggedy step-children, the middle class, the working class, is being erased.

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#41 Oct 22, 2013
s/b: how I pretty much see...
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#42 Oct 22, 2013
spud wrote:
<quoted text>This isn't a dispute over facts. It's a dispute over accepting responsibility. Obama can't just stand up there and moralize to Americans about Washington being broke without accepting his share of the blame. He painted himself as a helpless, third party bystander, pleading with congress to do what the American people need, as if he has his finger on the pulse of average citizens. In reality, he's just an egotistical and arrogant person who is in way over his head. We are more divided as a country than I can ever remember and his 'my way or the highway' attitude, concerning some very radical positions, is largely responsible for that division.
First off the poster's concern seemed to be punctuation instead of facts, but whatever.

Of course Obama was a bystander in the shut down nonsense. Why in the world we he negotiate with Congress for doing something silly.

ACA is a law. It was a done deal. There are ways to change the law, but to expect somebody to "cancel" a law is ridiculous.

This would be the same thing as if the previous owner of your home showed up one day four years after the sale is complete and said he wanted to renegotiate the purchase price you paid. You of course would say that they have no legal standing to make such a request and you would ignore them. Would it really matter to you if the guy stood on your front lawn with his fingers in his ears ranting that you "refuse to negotiate"? I suspect it probably would not.

The shut down was no different. There was no legal basis whatsoever for what they were trying to do and Obama was not going to play their game.

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