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Rubio Claims Amnesty Needed to Identify Illegal Immigrants

There are 50 comments on the Freshnews story from Apr 27, 2013, titled Rubio Claims Amnesty Needed to Identify Illegal Immigrants. In it, Freshnews reports that:

Senator Marco Rubio is claiming amnesty is necessary so that the United States can determine the identity of illegal aliens in the country.

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“Take a deep breath”

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#42 Apr 29, 2013
spytheweb wrote:
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"There must be a reason for the authorities to stop me before they can stop me. Either on foot or in a motor vehicle, the government has no right to approach me unless they have a reasonable suspicion that a crime is being committed. They can't stop me just to see my papers. Well, they can but it would cost them because I'm the kind of guy who will sue the government entity that violates my civil rights."
Never been through a DUI check point? Illegal aliens aren't afraid to be asked something, they are afraid they won't have an answer to the question. I take it you have never been overseas? Where you are required to hand in your passport at the hotel desk before they give you a room. Illegal aliens don't like any requirements and want to run free. BTW, border patrol can ask anyone if they are a citizen and for papers at any time because it's a federal law, non US citizens must have immigration paperwork on their person at all times.
"Never been through a DUI check point?"

When I was active duty military on a military base I had to go through that crap all the time. Now that I am a civilian living out in the boondocks, I haven't even seen one in the past twenty years.

I served five overseas tours and didn't even have a passport. When I went downtown I stayed with locals and had a great time.

It sounds like you don't like freedom. You like having an intrusive government looking over your shoulder. That's fine with me. Just don't bring them over here where I live because I'm a free man living in a free country where the government serves at my pleasure.

“Take a deep breath”

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#43 Apr 29, 2013
spytheweb wrote:
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"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But
it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear."
&#8213; Marcus Tullius Cicero
It was that type of paranoia that caused Rome to fall.
bob

Phoenix, AZ

#44 Apr 29, 2013
-Dont Panic- wrote:
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"Never been through a DUI check point?"
When I was active duty military on a military base I had to go through that crap all the time. Now that I am a civilian living out in the boondocks, I haven't even seen one in the past twenty years.
I served five overseas tours and didn't even have a passport. When I went downtown I stayed with locals and had a great time.
It sounds like you don't like freedom. You like having an intrusive government looking over your shoulder. That's fine with me. Just don't bring them over here where I live because I'm a free man living in a free country where the government serves at my pleasure.
You had military Id . Sounds like you brought the government to yourself at one time . They know all about you have files on you . You were government property .For them to do what they wanted too.send you to a war and you might die . If a draft happens you go first. unless you too old . If your in uniform you represent the United States. Thats pretty intrusive . The Government stopped serving the America people a long time ago now they are in it for themselves. Americans have to fix that . dont worry we dont need you .
bob

Phoenix, AZ

#45 Apr 29, 2013
-Dont Panic- wrote:
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It was that type of paranoia that caused Rome to fall.
Sounds like you have a little paranoia of our government. living in the sticks .

“Take a deep breath”

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#46 Apr 29, 2013
bob wrote:
<quoted text>You had military Id . Sounds like you brought the government to yourself at one time . They know all about you have files on you . You were government property .For them to do what they wanted too.send you to a war and you might die . If a draft happens you go first. unless you too old . If your in uniform you represent the United States. Thats pretty intrusive . The Government stopped serving the America people a long time ago now they are in it for themselves. Americans have to fix that . dont worry we dont need you .
Yeah. I signed a contract and did my 20 and retired. Loved it! Hated it! Sometimes loved it and hated it at the same time. Those were the best of times and they were the worst of times, but I did it of my own free will and I did it well.

The government does exactly what our elected representatives tells it to do. Our elected representatives do exactly what we tell them to do. The fact that our government seems to be bipolar is because society is that way.

The fringes at the far right are demanding one thing and the fringes at the far left are demanding something totally opposite. The center majority is held hostage to the demands of the fringes so nothing ever gets done.

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#47 Apr 29, 2013
bob wrote:
<quoted text>Sounds like you have a little paranoia of our government. living in the sticks .
I live in a sparsely populated rural area. Not because I don't like government. I live here because I was born here and this is my home. If I were to move into a big city, I would have no place to keep my livestock. Neighbors would complain about the rooster crowing and the police would come to my door demanding to search the premiss, seize my cattle and poultry and issue me a huge fine. Then I would have to go after the snitch neighbor with a baseball bat and his kids will get in the way and the next thing you know it I'd be sitting in a jail cell trying to get a bonding agent and an attorney. It would be a mess! That's why I prefer to live in the Boonies. It's a whole lot more peaceful.
bob

Phoenix, AZ

#48 Apr 29, 2013
-Dont Panic- wrote:
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I live in a sparsely populated rural area. Not because I don't like government. I live here because I was born here and this is my home. If I were to move into a big city, I would have no place to keep my livestock. Neighbors would complain about the rooster crowing and the police would come to my door demanding to search the premiss, seize my cattle and poultry and issue me a huge fine. Then I would have to go after the snitch neighbor with a baseball bat and his kids will get in the way and the next thing you know it I'd be sitting in a jail cell trying to get a bonding agent and an attorney. It would be a mess! That's why I prefer to live in the Boonies. It's a whole lot more peaceful.
interesting , Do all roosters crow at the same time . your roosters is always waking me up too early. faar as i know we have never impeached or fired a Senator or a Rep . yet they do not always do what the "common" people want . these are the ones that always take it in the rear. why is our congress listening to people that have snuck into our country . Instead of the citizens that are tired of paying welfare ,losing jobs, crime they bring , watching the wages go down and taxes go up to support illegals???
bob

Phoenix, AZ

#49 Apr 29, 2013
-Dont Panic- wrote:
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Yeah. I signed a contract and did my 20 and retired. Loved it! Hated it! Sometimes loved it and hated it at the same time. Those were the best of times and they were the worst of times, but I did it of my own free will and I did it well.
The government does exactly what our elected representatives tells it to do. Our elected representatives do exactly what we tell them to do. The fact that our government seems to be bipolar is because society is that way.
The fringes at the far right are demanding one thing and the fringes at the far left are demanding something totally opposite. The center majority is held hostage to the demands of the fringes so nothing ever gets done.
can you be recalled to duty???

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

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Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#53 May 12, 2013
Jaxxon wrote:
Rubio says the proposed immigration reform is not an amnesty, so the headline on this thread is misleading.
" Republican Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida argued this morning on "This Week" that a key provision of the bill, the so-called "pathway to citizenship" for undocumented immigrants, would not give anything away".

Sure it does Senator, it gives or sells our American citizenship to 11 million illegal aliens that broke our Immigration Laws to get here!

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It's sad when some politicians and segments of our population want to degrade our American Citizenship to the point where it has no value or meaning.

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"This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1 to 1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnestybill like this."

-- Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy on the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 19869884.

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DEMOCRATS ARE LIARS!

"The agreement we just reached is the best possible chance we will have in
years to secure our borders, bring millions of people out of the shadows and
into the sunshine of America"
May 17, 2007

Ted Kennedy -- Senator from Massachusetts
Member of the Democratic Party

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#54 May 12, 2013
Jaxxon wrote:
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And in those "few years" how many more people cross the border and take up residence here without any documentation?
We need better security at the borders, reform of our legal immigration system and a way to bring the people currently here illegally out of the shadows and into the system.
There's no other way to get a handle on this thing.
We tried it in '86, and all we got was more people sneaking in and far too many of those applying for the amnesty were committing fraud. "“The fraud in that program was out of sight,” said King.“The biggest fraud in California was establishing the five year residency. Fraudulent documents, rent receipts, food receipts anything needed was for sale on Los Angeles streets…There were document vendors all over the place and fraud was rampant.” http://www.federalobserver.com/2011/11/05/olt...

I see no reason for it to be any different this time around.

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