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Rubio Claims Amnesty Needed to Identify Illegal Immigrants

There are 50 comments on the Freshnews story from Apr 27, 2013, titled Rubio Claims Amnesty Needed to Identify Illegal Immigrants. In it, Freshnews reports that:

Senator Marco Rubio is claiming amnesty is necessary so that the United States can determine the identity of illegal aliens in the country.

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bob

Phoenix, AZ

#21 Apr 27, 2013
-Dont Panic- wrote:
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We as a people have subjugated ourselves to paying an intrusive government for permission to legally operate a piece of property that we have paid our hard earned money for and you claim that to be a "Wonderful Right"?
You are a brainwashed communist! I can buy and sell automobiles and operate them just fine without paying local, state or federal mafias.
It's puzzy a$$ scum like yourself that can't stand up for your personal freedom that forces the rest of us your fellow patriots to succumb to the brutal police state that requires license, registration and proof of insurance. FU all!!!
I prefer a free nation where the government works for us and not the other way around.
people actually do fail the driving test and do not get promission to drive. Be responsiable if you hit someone pay for the damage and the medical to them .What you dnt hae millions ???? Get insurance. I hope you get hit by someone without insurance . you'll learn.
bob

Phoenix, AZ

#22 Apr 27, 2013
Bama Yankee wrote:
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Actually, operating a motor vehicle isn't a right. It is a privilege and can be taken away from you at any time.
When you get arrested for having no license, no registration and no proof of insurance, you'll see just how quick you can lose that privilege.
perhaps he likes jail. Or he is illegal in which case they do nothing .
bob

Phoenix, AZ

#23 Apr 27, 2013
-Dont Panic- wrote:
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It is the fool who foolishly gives up his freedom for security for he will end up with neither.
It is the fool that lets his government let illegal invaders into his country for 20 plus years taking jobs stealing welfare ,and does nothing about it . Our laws say we cant just ID Illegals because it is racist . illegals shouldnt have any rights . how are we supposed to find them ??? carding everyone is fair . It might take a few years .

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#24 Apr 27, 2013
she is going strong wrote:
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You love music, good for you.
For, music brings out the best in us.
here is some fitting music

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#25 Apr 27, 2013
tomin cali wrote:
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here is some fitting music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =WgOHOHKBEqEXX
Even more fitting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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#26 Apr 27, 2013
bob wrote:
<quoted text>It is the fool that lets his government let illegal invaders into his country for 20 plus years taking jobs stealing welfare ,and does nothing about it . Our laws say we cant just ID Illegals because it is racist . illegals shouldnt have any rights . how are we supposed to find them ??? carding everyone is fair . It might take a few years .
And in those "few years" how many more people cross the border and take up residence here without any documentation?

We need better security at the borders, reform of our legal immigration system and a way to bring the people currently here illegally out of the shadows and into the system.

There's no other way to get a handle on this thing.

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#27 Apr 27, 2013
Jaxxon wrote:
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And in those "few years" how many more people cross the border and take up residence here without any documentation?
We need better security at the borders, reform of our legal immigration system and a way to bring the people currently here illegally out of the shadows and into the system.
There's no other way to get a handle on this thing.
You're only partly right. We do need better border security. We do not need to reform our immigration system. We need to enforce it.

Declare Mexico a cartel controlled terrorist state and all illegals enemy combatants. How long do you think it would take to solve the illegal problem then?
bob

Phoenix, AZ

#28 Apr 27, 2013
Jaxxon wrote:
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And in those "few years" how many more people cross the border and take up residence here without any documentation?
We need better security at the borders, reform of our legal immigration system and a way to bring the people currently here illegally out of the shadows and into the system.
There's no other way to get a handle on this thing.
Sercure the border !!!!!!!!!! ANd BS!!!!! Enforce deportation . What your illegal???

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

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Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#30 Apr 28, 2013
"Rubio Claims Amnesty Needed to Identify Illegal Immigrants"

Hell Senator,they're all illegal!

Illegal, but Not Undocumented:

Identity Theft, Document Fraud, and Illegal
Employment

a.. Illegal immigrants are not "undocumented." They have fraudulent
documents such as counterfeit Social Security cards, forged drivers
licenses, fake "green cards," and phony birth certificates. Experts suggest
that approximately 75 percent of working-age illegal aliens use fraudulent
Social Security cards to obtain employment.

a.. Most (98 percent) Social Security number (SSN) thieves use their own
names with stolen numbers. The federal E-Verify program, now mandated in
only 14 states, can detect this fraud. Universal, mandatory use of E-Verify
would curb this and stop virtually 100 percent of child identity theft.

a.. Illegal immigration and high levels of identity theft go hand-in-hand.
a..
a.. States with the most illegal immigration also have high levels of
job-related identity theft. In Arizona, 33 percent or all identity theft is
job-related (as opposed to identity theft motivated simply by profit).
a..
a.. In Texas it is 27 percent; in New Mexico, 23 percent; in Colorado, 22
percent; California, 20 percent; and in Nevada, 16 percent.
a..
a.. Eight of the 10 states with the highest percentage of illegal aliens in
their total population are among the top 10 states in identity theft
(Arizona, California, Florida, Texas, Nevada, New York, Georgia, and
Colorado).

Read rest of story below:

http://www.cis.org/IdentityTheft
spud

Wilkes Barre, PA

#31 Apr 29, 2013
Since the senate bill doesn't include any language that makes the use of Everify mandatory, it follows that they really don't give a damn about who is in this country. Idiots like Rubio and Boehner think the American people are so stupid that they would believe their bogus argument about having to pass amnesty in order to know who is in this country.
ronnie

Salt Lake City, UT

#32 Apr 29, 2013
bob wrote:
<quoted text>people actually do fail the driving test and do not get promission to drive. Be responsiable if you hit someone pay for the damage and the medical to them .What you dnt hae millions ???? Get insurance. I hope you get hit by someone without insurance . you'll learn.
My son was hit by an illegal last fall while he was turning into his college parking lot. She hit him going 50 MPH and his car was shoved into two more other car's. Guess, who paid for all the bill's. Well it sure as hell wasn't the illegal. She sat in her little turd the whole time the cops were investigating. Our insurance paid for my son's totaled auto, and the two other's that she pushed his car into. She had no license, no insurance, and didn't even get out of her car to check on my son . He had injury's to his legs and arm. And we are tired of paying for these loser's. Period. That's the mind set of millions of illegals driving on our roadways everyday.
bob

Phoenix, AZ

#33 Apr 29, 2013
ronnie wrote:
<quoted text>My son was hit by an illegal last fall while he was turning into his college parking lot. She hit him going 50 MPH and his car was shoved into two more other car's. Guess, who paid for all the bill's. Well it sure as hell wasn't the illegal. She sat in her little turd the whole time the cops were investigating. Our insurance paid for my son's totaled auto, and the two other's that she pushed his car into. She had no license, no insurance, and didn't even get out of her car to check on my son . He had injury's to his legs and arm. And we are tired of paying for these loser's. Period. That's the mind set of millions of illegals driving on our roadways everyday.
They dont worry about it if they hit someone they (the Illegals) get a ride to the emergency room . get patch up and skip out . Or welfare picks it up either way the rest of us pay. It must be aright to drive in Mexico.
spud

Wilkes Barre, PA

#34 Apr 29, 2013
Having to pass amnesty to find out who's in this country is one of the dumbest arguments of all time. You'd have to be a Democrat or a dopey neocon to believe such nonsense.

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#35 Apr 29, 2013
spud wrote:
Having to pass amnesty to find out who's in this country is one of the dumbest arguments of all time. You'd have to be a Democrat or a dopey neocon to believe such nonsense.
Rather like Pelosi regarding Obamacare saying "We need to pass this bill to see what's in it."
spud

Wilkes Barre, PA

#36 Apr 29, 2013
Bama Yankee wrote:
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Rather like Pelosi regarding Obamacare saying "We need to pass this bill to see what's in it."
Exactly, cuz. I was really hoping for better leadership when the Rs took the majority in the house. Rationalizations like these show how stupid our politicians think we are.
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Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#37 Apr 29, 2013
-Dont Panic- wrote:
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It would be simple if not for that pesky little thing known as the Bill of Rights.
fourth amendment to the US constitution...
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
Federal law:

"In 1996, Congress inserted several interlocking provisions into the law that require deportation when Executive Branch officials become aware of illegal aliens.

Congress enacted these provisions explicitly to force the executive branch to place into removal proceedings virtually every illegal alien encountered by federal immigration agents. The exceptions allowed by the 1996 act are very narrow, to be applied only in extraordinary circumstances (such as aliens seeking political asylum)."

"Here’s the technical explanation:

* 8 U.S.C.§ 1225(a)(1) provides that “an alien present in the United States who has not been admitted ... shall be deemed for purposes of this chapter an applicant for admission.”

* This triggers 8 U.S.C.§ 1225(b)(2)(A), which mandates that if the immigration officer determines that the alien is unlawfully present, the alien must be placed in deportation proceedings:“In the case of an alien who is an applicant for admission, if the examining immigration officer determines that an alien seeking admission is not clearly and beyond a doubt entitled to be admitted, the alien shall be detained for a proceeding under section 1229a of this title.”

* The proceedings described in 8 U.S.C.§ 1229a are the deportation (or “removal”) proceedings of the US immigration courts."

http://www.limitstogrowth.org/articles/2012/0...

Good news, at least Georgia is working on it. Gov. signs SB 160

"Bans illegal aliens from getting state driver’s licenses.
Blocks illegal aliens from getting state, grants, public housing and retirement benefits.
Prevents people from using foreign passports to obtain public benefits, unless those passports include records indicating they are in the country legally.
Mandatory participation in E-Verify for contractors doing business with city, county and state government agencies."

http://standwitharizona.com/blog/2013/04/26/v...

"Martin Lopez, an illegal alien “immigrant rights activist” from Atlanta, was among those who demonstrated outside the state Capitol this month. He said many illegals have been using their foreign passports as a form of identification to get public benefits because the state’s 2011 law prohibits officials from accepting matricula consular cards when people apply. He said he doesn’t know “what they can do now”.

GO HOME!!!
Level 6

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#38 Apr 29, 2013
-Dont Panic- wrote:
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I might have to prove my citizenship should I request something from the government but the government cannot simply approach me for no reason whatsoever and demand that I prove something to them. As long as I am minding my own business and not committing a crime, I don't have to prove $hit to the government.
<quoted text>
There must be a reason for the authorities to stop me before they can stop me. Either on foot or in a motor vehicle, the government has no right to approach me unless they have a reasonable suspicion that a crime is being committed. They can't stop me just to see my papers. Well, they can but it would cost them because I'm the kind of guy who will sue the government entity that violates my civil rights.
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Nothing to do with the government. All things that deal with private enterprise. The ATM doesn't ask for ID. Only the card. That card could be a generic card purchased with cash at WalMart and not be traceable back to any individual. Many people use these types of instruments to keep their identity safe when purchasing online. Oh, and with the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants living and working in the USA, it's obvious that you don't need ID for a job.
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Back when Airport security was a private enterprise, the fact that it wasn't the government doing the searches, it was not a violation of constitutional rights. It was a private business and if you didn't like it you shouldn't use that service. Now airport security is a government agency and so the line is clear. They cannot do what they are doing. Sure, the patriot act was written to allow it but any legislation that violates the constitution is unconstitutional so since the patriot act allows government searches without warrant, it is an unconstitutional law. Of course it won't be declared unconstitutional until it goes to the supreme court.
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Our country is a target because our corporations are unethical in their business practices around the world. When they do wrong to people under the flag of our nation, our nation becomes the bad guy in the mind of the victims. The Bush administration was an unethical entity and it's members were unethical people. They have not been in office for four years and our nations reputation is getting better around the world.
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The bill of rights is all about the individual right to be left alone. Mind you own business and the government has no right to bother you. If they do, they have violated your rights and you can sue.
"There must be a reason for the authorities to stop me before they can stop me. Either on foot or in a motor vehicle, the government has no right to approach me unless they have a reasonable suspicion that a crime is being committed. They can't stop me just to see my papers. Well, they can but it would cost them because I'm the kind of guy who will sue the government entity that violates my civil rights."

Never been through a DUI check point? Illegal aliens aren't afraid to be asked something, they are afraid they won't have an answer to the question. I take it you have never been overseas? Where you are required to hand in your passport at the hotel desk before they give you a room. Illegal aliens don't like any requirements and want to run free. BTW, border patrol can ask anyone if they are a citizen and for papers at any time because it's a federal law, non US citizens must have immigration paperwork on their person at all times.
Level 6

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#39 Apr 29, 2013
-Dont Panic- wrote:
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It is the fool who foolishly gives up his freedom for security for he will end up with neither.
"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But
it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear."
&#8213; Marcus Tullius Cicero
bob

Phoenix, AZ

#40 Apr 29, 2013
spytheweb wrote:
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"There must be a reason for the authorities to stop me before they can stop me. Either on foot or in a motor vehicle, the government has no right to approach me unless they have a reasonable suspicion that a crime is being committed. They can't stop me just to see my papers. Well, they can but it would cost them because I'm the kind of guy who will sue the government entity that violates my civil rights."
Never been through a DUI check point? Illegal aliens aren't afraid to be asked something, they are afraid they won't have an answer to the question. I take it you have never been overseas? Where you are required to hand in your passport at the hotel desk before they give you a room. Illegal aliens don't like any requirements and want to run free. BTW, border patrol can ask anyone if they are a citizen and for papers at any time because it's a federal law, non US citizens must have immigration paperwork on their person at all times.
287g fed law, a police officer state orFed can be empowered by the fed government to ak for immigration paperwork. and they have been . They are helping fed officers because they are not everwhere . This is why they want to call it racial profiling . Its all they have to stand on. has'nt worked yet . even blacknd Mexican cops arrest them forbeing illegal. they manage to find illegals in other countries.

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#41 Apr 29, 2013
spytheweb wrote:
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Federal law:
"In 1996, Congress inserted several interlocking provisions into the law that require deportation when Executive Branch officials become aware of illegal aliens.
Congress enacted these provisions explicitly to force the executive branch to place into removal proceedings virtually every illegal alien encountered by federal immigration agents. The exceptions allowed by the 1996 act are very narrow, to be applied only in extraordinary circumstances (such as aliens seeking political asylum)."
"Here’s the technical explanation:
* 8 U.S.C.§ 1225(a)(1) provides that “an alien present in the United States who has not been admitted ... shall be deemed for purposes of this chapter an applicant for admission.”
* This triggers 8 U.S.C.§ 1225(b)(2)(A), which mandates that if the immigration officer determines that the alien is unlawfully present, the alien must be placed in deportation proceedings:“In the case of an alien who is an applicant for admission, if the examining immigration officer determines that an alien seeking admission is not clearly and beyond a doubt entitled to be admitted, the alien shall be detained for a proceeding under section 1229a of this title.”
* The proceedings described in 8 U.S.C.§ 1229a are the deportation (or “removal”) proceedings of the US immigration courts."
http://www.limitstogrowth.org/articles/2012/0...
Good news, at least Georgia is working on it. Gov. signs SB 160
"Bans illegal aliens from getting state driver’s licenses.
Blocks illegal aliens from getting state, grants, public housing and retirement benefits.
Prevents people from using foreign passports to obtain public benefits, unless those passports include records indicating they are in the country legally.
Mandatory participation in E-Verify for contractors doing business with city, county and state government agencies."
http://standwitharizona.com/blog/2013/04/26/v...
"Martin Lopez, an illegal alien “immigrant rights activist” from Atlanta, was among those who demonstrated outside the state Capitol this month. He said many illegals have been using their foreign passports as a form of identification to get public benefits because the state’s 2011 law prohibits officials from accepting matricula consular cards when people apply. He said he doesn’t know “what they can do now”.
GO HOME!!!
You really aught to go apply for a job working for the federal government immigration and customs enforcement. Oh wait! They are not hiring! All the positions that your congress has authorized are filled.

All the money that congress has authorized to lock up the illegals has been spent. All the resources congress has authorized to process suspected illegals for deportation has been depleted and the immigration courts have backlogs of up to five years.

All y'all idiots talking about your hatred for illegals does nothing to change the problems. Just rant and whine about a problem that has been with us for more than a half century.

Elected leaders are actually trying to do something about it in the form of Immigration Reform and instead of being supportive, you right wing morons continue to rant and whine.

In case you haven't noticed yet...NOBODY CARES WHAT YOU IDIOTS THINK!

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