Boehner: Immigration reform? Don't be...

Boehner: Immigration reform? Don't bet on it

There are 74 comments on the Capitol Hill Blue story from Feb 7, 2014, titled Boehner: Immigration reform? Don't bet on it. In it, Capitol Hill Blue reports that:

"The American people, including many of our members, don't trust that the reform we're talking about will be implemented as it was intended to be."

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Cat74

Joliet, IL

#22 Feb 8, 2014
This is the second time Americans have prevented the illegal aliens from sneaking citizenship. They need to go home, apply legally, and come back. Otherwise they should remain hidden, and be deported if they get so much as a traffic ticket.
wild child

Brooklyn, NY

#23 Feb 8, 2014
Cat74 wrote:
This is the second time Americans have prevented the illegal aliens from sneaking citizenship. They need to go home, apply legally, and come back. Otherwise they should remain hidden, and be deported if they get so much as a traffic ticket.
at this point they should not even be allowed in legally, no more people, no more visas, no more anyone fom any country.period.
Memo From Turner

Cortlandt Manor, NY

#24 Feb 8, 2014
Cat74 wrote:
This is the second time Americans have prevented the illegal aliens from sneaking citizenship. They need to go home, apply legally, and come back. Otherwise they should remain hidden, and be deported if they get so much as a traffic ticket.
The US imposes very stiff penalties on any undocumented person who wants to return home to apply legally. Believe it or not there is a ten year penalty if they even try it.

Strangely if a person is deported the ten year bar does not apply to them. They can try to apply legally right away.

This does not provide any incentive for somebody to return home and is another example of the broken system. This problem could be corrected rather quickly if only the House was not determined to block any and every attempt to resolve the situation.
Level 5

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#25 Feb 8, 2014
Memo From Turner wrote:
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The US imposes very stiff penalties on any undocumented person who wants to return home to apply legally. Believe it or not there is a ten year penalty if they even try it.
Strangely if a person is deported the ten year bar does not apply to them. They can try to apply legally right away.
This does not provide any incentive for somebody to return home and is another example of the broken system. This problem could be corrected rather quickly if only the House was not determined to block any and every attempt to resolve the situation.
What's the benefit of reform to the American worker, and the legal immigrant who has gone through the system to obtain permission to be here and work? When I was in college, I worked at a non-profit immigration agency, and saw it all. Times have changed, in the 80's, immigrants had to prove that they could sustain themselves financially, or have a sponsor, before being granted a visa,, and subsequent green card, these days, folks think they don't have to prove anything, in fact, they believe Americans have to prove to them that we aren't "racist" in applying our immigration laws, last I checked, illegal alien wasn't a race.
Memo From Turner

Cortlandt Manor, NY

#26 Feb 9, 2014
OneRepublic wrote:
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What's the benefit of reform to the American worker, and the legal immigrant who has gone through the system to obtain permission to be here and work? When I was in college, I worked at a non-profit immigration agency, and saw it all. Times have changed, in the 80's, immigrants had to prove that they could sustain themselves financially, or have a sponsor, before being granted a visa,, and subsequent green card, these days, folks think they don't have to prove anything, in fact, they believe Americans have to prove to them that we aren't "racist" in applying our immigration laws, last I checked, illegal alien wasn't a race.
So there is now a law that says undocumented people will are not allowed to return home without a significant penalty.. I have an issue with that since I think we should be encouraging people to leave. You disagree. Go figure.
Level 5

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#27 Feb 9, 2014
Memo From Turner wrote:
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So there is now a law that says undocumented people will are not allowed to return home without a significant penalty.. I have an issue with that since I think we should be encouraging people to leave. You disagree. Go figure.
The significant penalty is going to the back of the line and waiting their turn, the way they should have, honestly, I don't blame them as much as I do their own governments, our government and the companies that hire them. Of course, these folks have blame too, but they are for the most part simple folk who don't understand the intricacies involved in immigration matters, whatever country they plan on moving to, my big problem right now is the hispano-centric groups who pander to this class of people, and try to sell them a bill of goods, while chanting "si se puede" and all sorts of nonsensical mess such as "the border crossed us, we didn't cross the border" and making poster boards in Spanish, claiming that they deserve to be legalized.

Well, it takes more than throwing temper tantrums to prove to American voters that these folks deserve a fast track to legality. We are nothing if not a fair people, and we expect for people to play fairly too, and not jump in front of those immigrants who are following our rules.

Some sort of compromise will be reached, I'm sure, but it won't please either side 100%, and that's how it should be. This country needs to focus on putting Americans back to work, and rebuilding our infrastructure, not hiring more underage drabs who then send stipends back home, helping to build their communities.
Level 5

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#28 Feb 9, 2014
not underage, but under-educated, I'm ok with the so-called Dream Act. What I don't understand is granting a law license to an illegal alien in California. WTH?
see the light

El Paso, TX

#29 Feb 9, 2014
Memo From Turner wrote:
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Why do you suppose they want Social Security cards? It is so they can get a job on the books and pay the same taxes as you do.
By the way, unless they are living in a tent someplace they are paying the same property and school taxes as everybody else too. Either directly or through their landlord. So much for the "free" school myth.
Pay taxes my azz,,so they can legally collect Welfare and medicaid. Those bums might have to pay taxes on beer and clothes but no taxes to the IRS. They will get bACK THOUSANDS MORE BECAUSE OF THEIR MANY KIDS! What a fool you are!
Cat74

Downers Grove, IL

#30 Feb 9, 2014
The Government fines the Illegal if they try to go home? Then don't tell them, sneak back the same way you snuck over here in the first place. It isn't rocket science.
see the light

El Paso, TX

#31 Feb 9, 2014
Memo From Turner wrote:
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Why do you suppose they want Social Security cards? It is so they can get a job on the books and pay the same taxes as you do.
By the way, unless they are living in a tent someplace they are paying the same property and school taxes as everybody else too. Either directly or through their landlord. So much for the "free" school myth.
Really, they pay taxes with their free housing?
Cat74

Downers Grove, IL

#32 Feb 9, 2014
Illegal aliens cost the American people billions more then they will ever contribute in decades. They need to be gone until they come back legally. They have taken over the property we bought after the Mexican American War they lost. They are scum, pond scum.
wild child

Brooklyn, NY

#33 Feb 9, 2014
Cat74 wrote:
The Government fines the Illegal if they try to go home? Then don't tell them, sneak back the same way you snuck over here in the first place. It isn't rocket science.
where theres a will theres a way, sneak back is right.they can do it.or they can just stay deported.that would work.
spud

Girardville, PA

#34 Feb 10, 2014
If Boehner wanted enforcement first he could have passed a mandatory everify bill, a visa tracking bill and change the current interpretation of the 14th amendment to what it was supposed to be, not an invitation to every pregnant woman in the world to have their baby here at our expense. The truth is, Boehner never wanted enforcement first. Hell, if he wanted enforcement he could still do it and the people would back him. He's a sneaky weasel. After the election, you can be sure that he'll bring this amnesty business up again. That's why the people have to get rid of as many of the amnesty supporters as they can in the coming election. Backing amnesty should be the number 1 disqualifier in the coming election. Many of the amnesty backers are also supporters of the job killing free trade agreements and special tax breaks for job exporters. These people gotta go.
Cat74

Darien, IL

#35 Feb 10, 2014
If the liberals can't have it any other way they will agree to closing the border. The problem is they lie, and they have no respect for the laws so we might as well wait until we have lawmakers with a higher moral calling then the ones we have now.
Cat74

Darien, IL

#36 Feb 10, 2014
Boehner got a taste of his future when his phone number went on Facebook. So many people called he knew he would lose his soft cushy job if he didn't stop the Amnesty quickly. No amnesty in 2014, and certainly none until much later, if ever. If Obama can't lead with the most leftist government in history he will never get what he wants.
Memo From Turner

Cortlandt Manor, NY

#37 Feb 10, 2014
OneRepublic wrote:
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The significant penalty is going to the back of the line and waiting their turn, the way they should have,
That would make sense if it was correct, but that is not the case. If somebody is forcibly deported they have to go to the end of the line.

If somebody voluntarily returns home there is a ten yer bar before they are even allowed to go to the back of the line.
Level 5

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#38 Feb 10, 2014
Memo From Turner wrote:
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That would make sense if it was correct, but that is not the case. If somebody is forcibly deported they have to go to the end of the line.
If somebody voluntarily returns home there is a ten yer bar before they are even allowed to go to the back of the line.
Well, these are folks who were caught by ICE and given the option to voluntarily deport, or being formally removed, not the folks who through their own conscience decided to leave before getting caught, and left no trace of having been here,(i.e working with stolen social security #, giving birth to kids here and claiming welfare benefits for those kids).
Memo From Turner

Cortlandt Manor, NY

#39 Feb 10, 2014
OneRepublic wrote:
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Well, these are folks who were caught by ICE and given the option to voluntarily deport, or being formally removed, not the folks who through their own conscience decided to leave before getting caught, and left no trace of having been here,(i.e working with stolen social security #, giving birth to kids here and claiming welfare benefits for those kids).
What? People who leave voluntarily are always subjected to the 10 year bar. No exceptions.

People who are deported are not subjected to the 10year bar.

The system rewards people who are deported and penalizes people who leave on their own. It is as simple as that.
spud

United States

#40 Feb 11, 2014
Memo From Turner wrote:
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What? People who leave voluntarily are always subjected to the 10 year bar. No exceptions.
People who are deported are not subjected to the 10year bar.
The system rewards people who are deported and penalizes people who leave on their own. It is as simple as that.
I just read up on those laws because what you are saying seemed so far fetched. I suggest you should do a little more reading before you keep spouting your BS. This isn't the first time you present total BS as fact.
Memo From Turner

Cortlandt Manor, NY

#41 Feb 11, 2014
spud wrote:
<quoted text>I just read up on those laws because what you are saying seemed so far fetched. I suggest you should do a little more reading before you keep spouting your BS. This isn't the first time you present total BS as fact.
There is no such thing as a ten year bar?

If that is what your "research" has concluded then you clearly are not qualified to discuss the subject.

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