Abortion bills force both parties to ...

Abortion bills force both parties to rethink political calculus

There are 1168 comments on the The Washington Post story from Jul 6, 2013, titled Abortion bills force both parties to rethink political calculus. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

People gather outside the state legislature as Senate Republicans gave their final approval to legislation requiring additional rules surrounding abortions in North Carolina, even as hundreds of protesters against the bill watched from the gallery in Raleigh, N.C., Wednesday,July 3. As a member of the Wisconsin State Assembly years ago, Republican ... (more)

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CBOW

Dover, PA

#147 Jul 11, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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Sorry COW, abortion IS taking responsibility!
Just because you wish to punish women/girls with the elimination of choice is your personal problem.
Who the fck made you the determiner over each and every women/girls circumstances and reproductive life? Exactly WHO?
Now you display that they should be MADE to raise the offspring too? Kinda blows your adoption BS all to hell doesn't it??
So weak, so predictable! Now tell me WHO gives you this false sense of authority over the lives of women/girls?? WHO?
Abortion is not taking responsibility, it's taking the easy way out. Contraception IS taking responsibility. Based on your reply, it's obvious that you lack self control in every aspect of your life. Explains your need to maintain abortion as an escape avenue. How very primitively juvenile of you.
CBOW

Dover, PA

#148 Jul 11, 2013
Cujo wrote:
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We do know how, and can prevent pregnancies. The problem is, concervative religious nutt jobs who don't want to prevent unwanted pregnancies either.
That is true, but that isn't a spiritual call, it's political in nature. Power in numbers.

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Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#149 Jul 11, 2013
CONTRACEPTIVE USE

Fifty-four percent of women who have abortions had used a contraceptive method (usually the condom or the pill) during the month they became pregnant. Among those women, 76% of pill users and 49% of condom users report having used their method inconsistently, while 13% of pill users and 14% of condom users report correct use.[8]

Forty-six percent of women who have abortions had not used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant. Of these women, 33% had perceived themselves to be at low risk for pregnancy, 32% had had concerns about contraceptive methods, 26% had had unexpected sex and 1% had been forced to have sex.[8]

Eight percent of women who have abortions have never used a method of birth control; nonuse is greatest among those who are young, poor, black, Hispanic or less educated.[8]

About half of unintended pregnancies occur among the 11% of women who are at risk for unintended pregnancy but are not using contraceptives. Most of these women have practiced contraception in the past.[9,10]

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abo...
Cat74

United States

#150 Jul 11, 2013
Gosnell wasn't the only evil person that waited until after the baby, fully developed, was born, and killed it. It just seems easier for some people that way. The new laws are setting the 20th week as a criteria. That seems reasonable. Why would a sober woman want to wait longer. It isn't an easy decision. I would think women would want to do it, and get it done.
fingiswold

Newark, OH

#151 Jul 11, 2013
CBOW wrote:
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Abortion is not taking responsibility, it's taking the easy way out. Contraception IS taking responsibility. Based on your reply, it's obvious that you lack self control in every aspect of your life. Explains your need to maintain abortion as an escape avenue. How very primitively juvenile of you.
not either/or since people make mistakes and contraception isn't foolproof. who needs a guy lecturing women about abortion anyway? get lost
fingiswold

Newark, OH

#152 Jul 11, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
Gosnell wasn't the only evil person that waited until after the baby, fully developed, was born, and killed it. It just seems easier for some people that way. The new laws are setting the 20th week as a criteria. That seems reasonable. Why would a sober woman want to wait longer. It isn't an easy decision. I would think women would want to do it, and get it done.
new laws violate roe v. wade, will be tossed out as overly restrictive. you don't get to decide. you don't speak for or tell women what to do, fool. gosnell is a freak, so ws the guy who shot doctor tiller..
Cat74

United States

#153 Jul 11, 2013
Take it to the Supreme Court. They can settle this once and for all. No, I don't get to decide, but neither do you. I would think women would choose to go to a real doctor, and have the procedure in a sterile area, rather then a rat hole worse then a back alley abortion.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Level 1

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#154 Jul 12, 2013
CBOW wrote:
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Abortion is not taking responsibility, it's taking the easy way out. Contraception IS taking responsibility. Based on your reply, it's obvious that you lack self control in every aspect of your life. Explains your need to maintain abortion as an escape avenue. How very primitively juvenile of you.
Abortion IS taking responsibility. Just because you wish to punish women/girls by forcing them to carry an unwanted pregnancy totally ignoring any of their circumstances is your busybody problem and your false sense of authority. Get over it.

Based on your reply it is obvious that you are extremely self important to meddle into the affairs of those you do not know, nor knowing their circumstances. How very self absorbed of you. Who gives you this pretend authority??? WHO??

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Level 3

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#155 Jul 12, 2013
conservative crapola wrote:
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lafraud needs a direct link to the manufacturer to so they can keep up with his demand.
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Indiana school district loses $300K because students refuse to buy first lady's healthy meals... The Food Gestapo has spoken.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Level 3

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#156 Jul 12, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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Abortion IS taking responsibility. Just because you wish to punish women/girls by forcing them to carry an unwanted pregnancy totally ignoring any of their circumstances is your busybody problem and your false sense of authority. Get over it.
Based on your reply it is obvious that you are extremely self important to meddle into the affairs of those you do not know, nor knowing their circumstances. How very self absorbed of you. Who gives you this pretend authority??? WHO??
Let me get this right my little cruppet. Women having sex without protection is not their choice. Picking multiple partners is not their choice, being smart about sex is not their choice, but when the rubber hits the road, sorry no pun intended, and she gets pregnant and wants to kill her result of all those non choices, it's finally her choice to kill the child.
Cujo

Regina, Canada

#157 Jul 12, 2013
CBOW wrote:
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Abortion is not taking responsibility, it's taking the easy way out. Contraception IS taking responsibility. Based on your reply, it's obvious that you lack self control in every aspect of your life. Explains your need to maintain abortion as an escape avenue. How very primitively juvenile of you.
Yup, until this child is born into a situation that the parents/parent are not prepared for, and then you pro-lifers can bitch about how they are sucking of the government tit.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#158 Jul 12, 2013
Cujo wrote:
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Yup, until this child is born into a situation that the parents/parent are not prepared for, and then you pro-lifers can bitch about how they are sucking of the government tit.
People who fail to plan are usually on the government tit before they bring children into their situation.
CBOW

Dover, PA

#159 Jul 12, 2013
fingiswold wrote:
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not either/or since people make mistakes and contraception isn't foolproof. who needs a guy lecturing women about abortion anyway? get lost
LOL, I am a woman. Sex is a "mistake"? How novel.
CBOW

Dover, PA

#160 Jul 12, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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Abortion IS taking responsibility. Just because you wish to punish women/girls by forcing them to carry an unwanted pregnancy totally ignoring any of their circumstances is your busybody problem and your false sense of authority. Get over it.
Based on your reply it is obvious that you are extremely self important to meddle into the affairs of those you do not know, nor knowing their circumstances. How very self absorbed of you. Who gives you this pretend authority??? WHO??
MY TAX DOLLARS DO! Having a child is not a punishment, pregnancy is not a parasitic infestation, it's a human life. Only a psychotic would consider it a parasite draining the host. SICK!
CBOW

Dover, PA

#161 Jul 12, 2013
Cujo wrote:
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Yup, until this child is born into a situation that the parents/parent are not prepared for, and then you pro-lifers can bitch about how they are sucking of the government tit.
More lack of responsibility, wouldn't you say. Life is tough, it's even tougher if you're stupid......Cut the crap, that is an age old excuse that doesn't fly. All it does is solidify the fact that there is a growing number of individuals, male and female alike, that refuse to take responsibility for their actions. Our government seems to have a need to "nurture" the irresponsible; why is that?
CBOW

Dover, PA

#162 Jul 12, 2013
Dan wrote:
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People who fail to plan are usually on the government tit before they bring children into their situation.
True, irresponsibility breeds irresponsibility.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Level 1

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#163 Jul 12, 2013
CBOW wrote:
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More lack of responsibility, wouldn't you say. Life is tough, it's even tougher if you're stupid......Cut the crap, that is an age old excuse that doesn't fly. All it does is solidify the fact that there is a growing number of individuals, male and female alike, that refuse to take responsibility for their actions. Our government seems to have a need to "nurture" the irresponsible; why is that?
Go gestate something.
Get back to us when you're done,'k?
Cujo

Regina, Canada

#164 Jul 12, 2013
CBOW wrote:
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More lack of responsibility, wouldn't you say. Life is tough, it's even tougher if you're stupid......Cut the crap, that is an age old excuse that doesn't fly. All it does is solidify the fact that there is a growing number of individuals, male and female alike, that refuse to take responsibility for their actions. Our government seems to have a need to "nurture" the irresponsible; why is that?
And here's what you don't get to do, You don't get to decide what is reponsible for somebody else. If a women knows she won't be able to care for a child, or have the financial means to do so, and decides to abort the pregancy, for her, she is doing the reponsible thing.

I don't find religious home schooling responsible, but I am not going to take that right away.

Abortion is legal, and a right, so don't even try and compare it to murder, cause it's not, no matter what you say.
CBOW

Dover, PA

#165 Jul 12, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>Go gestate something.
Get back to us when you're done,'k?
Been there, done that. She's 31 years old and an attorney. All done....
CBOW

Dover, PA

#166 Jul 12, 2013
Cujo wrote:
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And here's what you don't get to do, You don't get to decide what is reponsible for somebody else. If a women knows she won't be able to care for a child, or have the financial means to do so, and decides to abort the pregancy, for her, she is doing the reponsible thing.
I don't find religious home schooling responsible, but I am not going to take that right away.
Abortion is legal, and a right, so don't even try and compare it to murder, cause it's not, no matter what you say.
As with many cases of "law"; someone indeed has to decide what is considered responsible and irresponsible. Abortion is simply legalized murder, it stops a beating heart. How old are you that you don't recognize responsibility unless it concurs with your ideals? Very childlike.

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