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Abortion bills force both parties to rethink political calculus

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People gather outside the state legislature as Senate Republicans gave their final approval to legislation requiring additional rules surrounding abortions in North Carolina, even as hundreds of protesters against the bill watched from the gallery in Raleigh, N.C., Wednesday,July 3. As a member of the Wisconsin State Assembly years ago, Republican ... (more)

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“Define Necessity”

Since: Mar 13

FOR YOURSELF

#1065 Oct 26, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>She didn't need to. It's evident in her posts.
Hardly. Your diatribes, and porcupine personality are just as indicative of an abusive childhood as you're assuming hers to have been.

Here's a mirror - have a look....
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#1066 Oct 26, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
My paternal grandmother worked most of her short life, so I was told. But my maternal grandmother did not.
Yes it may have much to do with location, on top of perspective. I would have rather my mother worked and was happy. I would have preferred to come home and have it to myself, I was pretty independent and had many things that kept me occupied.
I'm sure that would have been better for you since your parents were not able to give you the emotional support you needed as a child. Better for them to be absent and happy because the result ends up the same......a screwed up kid.

Surely, if you actually were raised to be an independent and confident woman, the last thing you would want to see is a woman pretending to represent all women....begging for a handout! Independent women don't need or want the govt. to bully businesses and schools into providing BC pills! Are you kidding me? Contraception is a responsibility it's not a right to demand it from someone. Flooter should have factored in her budget before she picked the college she wanted to attend. If the dumb btch couldn't pay for bc pills, she should have gone to a less expensive school rather than demanding Georgetown to add that benefit to their plan which has caused someone else to pay for it.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#1067 Oct 26, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>She didn't need to. It's evident in her posts.
I don't think it is.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#1068 Oct 26, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
Viagra is expensive but i guess you feel we need to upkeep your tiny worthless wart infested pencil dick, thus your objection. First you claim BC is not expensive now you claim it is! Make up your Syphilis infected mind.
I wouldn't know how much it costs although I'm sure you do. After all, how else would you ever get a man to bed you, my dear Hagathea. I've heard some pharmacies hand out brown paper bags which will aid in longer erections for those partners who are difficult to look at.

Additionally, it seems like there will be women equally happy so how is Viagra geared only for men? No matter, Viagra is not commonly used like BC pills on a college campus....the demographics are not there which is why I'm sure this medication was not excluded. The cost to subsidize it's use is so nominal it wouldn't be worth the time to exclude it from the policy. Certainly, if Georgetown had 15,000 sixty year old men, Viagra could possibly be excluded.

Those who are providing their policies should have every right to provide the coverage they want. A slooter really shouldn't have a right at all to demand anything. She was free to choose her school AND her insurance policy. She could have gone to PP to get her pills but she didn't want to do that, now did she? Truly disgusting.

“Define Necessity”

Since: Mar 13

FOR YOURSELF

#1069 Oct 26, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>
I wouldn't know how much it costs although I'm sure you do. After all, how else would you ever get a man to bed you, my dear Hagathea. I've heard some pharmacies hand out brown paper bags which will aid in longer erections for those partners who are difficult to look at.
Additionally, it seems like there will be women equally happy so how is Viagra geared only for men? No matter, Viagra is not commonly used like BC pills on a college campus....the demographics are not there which is why I'm sure this medication was not excluded. The cost to subsidize it's use is so nominal it wouldn't be worth the time to exclude it from the policy. Certainly, if Georgetown had 15,000 sixty year old men, Viagra could possibly be excluded.
Those who are providing their policies should have every right to provide the coverage they want. A slooter really shouldn't have a right at all to demand anything. She was free to choose her school AND her insurance policy. She could have gone to PP to get her pills but she didn't want to do that, now did she? Truly disgusting.
Once more for the stupid girl: Sandra Fluke was attempting to insure that schools which receive and accept Federal funds, were subject to Federal law.

And they are.
And you are perfectly within your rights to disagree with the outcome - but repeatedly calling her names, continues to demean only you.

Please do carry on.

“Define Necessity”

Since: Mar 13

FOR YOURSELF

#1070 Oct 26, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
What I ACTUALLY said, Moron, is that student insurance is paid for by student tuition. So that asking for something to BE covered under that insurance, which is paid for by the student tuition, is NOT asking for "something for nothing". Learn to read.
This 'woman' has spent the last 14 pages trying to refute our assertion...I wonder why she's so convinced that Fluke was trying to denigrate her in some way, by arguing that colleges who get Federal funds should be subject to the same Federal law as everyone else...regardless of religion, race, color, GENDER, or creed, the law is the law.

“Define Necessity”

Since: Mar 13

FOR YOURSELF

#1071 Oct 26, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>But the difference is this.......you attack those who think she's a flooter. That's the difference.
There are many black people....some may call them Uncle Toms who are very offended by the Sharptons of the world. They are insulted by the way he portrays blacks. Many women feel the same way about flooter. Not sour grapes at all....just utterly disgusted in her.
btw The media portrays her to be the champion for 'women's rights'. No thank you.
Pointing out the flaws in your argument isn't an 'attack', hon.

Insecurity much??

I'M insulted by the way Sharpton treats blacks, truth be told...

Have you checked out Ben Carson? If he wasn't rabidly SCPL, I'd vote for HIM in a heartbeat.

Look, I get where you're coming from...but I also believe strongly that cheaply and widely available contraception, is a better idea than a slew of unwanted pregnancies...and I also think if a school receives funds from the Federal Government, it should follow the same rules as any other entity receiving Federal funding. Just because their religious beliefs preclude THEM from using birth control, shouldn't mean they get to dictate whether or not their students do.

And I happen to agree with you, that no business should be forced to provide insurance coverage to its employees - but the policy available to students at Georgetown, was discriminatory against women. I'm glad it's changed.

As far as Planned Parenthood is concerned, if it was up to Georgetown, they wouldn't be in business. And I'm pretty sure you know that, too.
Ocean56

AOL

#1072 Oct 27, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
Ink appears to become irritated when her religion is exposed. She probably becomes irate when their pedophiles are exposed reducing the victim to wanting attention. She is oblivious to standing against a wrong. If left up to her type we would all still be wearing bustles and not allowed to show our ankles.
Exactly, and we probably wouldn't be "allowed" to wear slacks in public either.
Ocean56

AOL

#1073 Oct 27, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
No she did not blame us kids. She really didn't blame anyone. She simply thought it was her lot in life. She had told me she wanted to go to work in the medical field but my father did not want her to work.
Sadly, a lot of women of our mother's generation were raised to believe that marriage and motherhood (to as many kids "as God would allow) were the ONLY valid vocations for women. Career was practically a dirty word where women were concerned.

For me, it was another reason to kick the toxic baggage of Catholicism to the curb over 25 years ago. I figured I was able to decide for MYSELF when or IF I wanted to be a wife OR a mother, not some regressive and oppressive church.

Vet

Fayetteville, GA

#1074 Oct 27, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
<quoted text>
Sadly, a lot of women of our mother's generation were raised to believe that marriage and motherhood (to as many kids "as God would allow) were the ONLY valid vocations for women. Career was practically a dirty word where women were concerned.
For me, it was another reason to kick the toxic baggage of Catholicism to the curb over 25 years ago. I figured I was able to decide for MYSELF when or IF I wanted to be a wife OR a mother, not some regressive and oppressive church.
Catholicism won't miss you, you were not a good Catholic and your obscene derision of the Catholic Church is indicative of an individual who has no self discipline or self worth. The dictates of Catholicism and all religions are too restraining for a weak person like you.
Vet

Fayetteville, GA

#1075 Oct 27, 2013
dedbebbies wrote:
<quoted text>This 'woman' has spent the last 14 pages trying to refute our assertion...I wonder why she's so convinced that Fluke was trying to denigrate her in some way, by arguing that colleges who get Federal funds should be subject to the same Federal law as everyone else...regardless of religion, race, color, GENDER, or creed, the law is the law.
My daughter is in Pre-Med. Her insurance is separate from her tuition. You are wrong.

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Level 1

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#1076 Oct 27, 2013
Vet wrote:
<quoted text>Catholicism won't miss you, you were not a good Catholic and your obscene derision of the Catholic Church is indicative of an individual who has no self discipline or self worth. The dictates of Catholicism and all religions are too restraining for a weak person like you.
AND we won't miss catholicism. The CC has issues with self discipline as it failed/fails to discipline it's abusive priests. Self worth would keep women far far from this backwards misogynistic male phallic worshiping institution. Self worth is what you gain once you walk away.

The dictates of catholicism are too restraining, but they cannot restrain their priests from sexually abusing children?

The purpose of religion is to restrain? In other words it is political tool. Thank you.

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Level 1

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#1077 Oct 27, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>
I wouldn't know how much it costs although I'm sure you do. After all, how else would you ever get a man to bed you, my dear Hagathea. I've heard some pharmacies hand out brown paper bags which will aid in longer erections for those partners who are difficult to look at.
Additionally, it seems like there will be women equally happy so how is Viagra geared only for men? No matter, Viagra is not commonly used like BC pills on a college campus....the demographics are not there which is why I'm sure this medication was not excluded. The cost to subsidize it's use is so nominal it wouldn't be worth the time to exclude it from the policy. Certainly, if Georgetown had 15,000 sixty year old men, Viagra could possibly be excluded.
Those who are providing their policies should have every right to provide the coverage they want. A slooter really shouldn't have a right at all to demand anything. She was free to choose her school AND her insurance policy. She could have gone to PP to get her pills but she didn't want to do that, now did she? Truly disgusting.
How do I know how much they cost? There is a little thing called a computer and another thing called the intranet obviously WAY over your scaly head.

How is Viagra geared for men? As a man you think it is more geared towards women? Another laughable male fantasy! It is the likes of you with the tiny flaccid wart covered willy that would need the help of Viagra just to relieve yourself.

No, those providing the policy are not allowed to discriminate. We have laws, and the CC can abide by them or lose their federal dollars ....that they do not pay into in the first place. AND that should be rectified also.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#1078 Oct 27, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly, and we probably wouldn't be "allowed" to wear slacks in public either.
In the name of independent women, stop being a dumb parrot and have a thought of your own.
Ink

Levittown, PA

#1079 Oct 27, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
<quoted text>
Sadly, a lot of women of our mother's generation were raised to believe that marriage and motherhood (to as many kids "as God would allow) were the ONLY valid vocations for women. Career was practically a dirty word where women were concerned.
For me, it was another reason to kick the toxic baggage of Catholicism to the curb over 25 years ago. I figured I was able to decide for MYSELF when or IF I wanted to be a wife OR a mother, not some regressive and oppressive church.
What part of the world did you live in? I didn't know any women like you describe. When I was growing up, all the women who wanted to work, did.

“Define Necessity”

Since: Mar 13

FOR YOURSELF

#1080 Oct 27, 2013
Vet wrote:
<quoted text>My daughter is in Pre-Med. Her insurance is separate from her tuition. You are wrong.
If your daughter was enrolled in the only University in the world, you might have a point.

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#1081 Oct 27, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>It makes sense you grew up in an abusive household as it plays out right here in this forum. Get therapy before you start making dresses out of your human captives.
You're a cold hearted bitch masquerading as a christian.
Someone tells you about their mom's life and you call it an 'abusive household'? It was a priest that molested their sibling but as usual, reading and comprehension aren't your forte but being a bitchonwheels is.

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#1082 Oct 27, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>She didn't need to. It's evident in her posts.
It's evident from this post you are incapable of thinking or debating like an adult. Your ASSumptions preclude you from being taken seriously since clearly you aren't very intelligent and are quite misguided by your Xtian ideology.

Go back to school and next time you go to church, pray for forgiveness. You are one disturbed and hate-filled individual.

“Define Necessity”

Since: Mar 13

FOR YOURSELF

#1083 Oct 27, 2013
Vet wrote:
<quoted text>I see that you remain in a deadly spiral of self hatred and guilt.
I see you still don't know what 'differential diagnosis' means....since it's a clinical term...

Some 'psychologist' you are...treated any angst-ridden afghan hounds lately?

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Ocean56

AOL

#1084 Oct 28, 2013
Vet wrote:
Catholicism won't miss you, you were not a good Catholic and your obscene derision of the Catholic Church is indicative of an individual who has no self discipline or self worth. The dictates of Catholicism and all religions are too restraining for a weak person like you.
Awwwwww, that's the church-based bull I've read or heard from every militant religionist whenever I make it clear how much I enjoy being what I call Catholicism-FREE (CF for short). I couldn't care LESS if Catholicism will miss me or not, because I sure as hell don't miss the regressive and oppressive doctrines of the Catholic Church.

Of course you can insult me all you want if that's what makes you feel better. That still doesn't convince me that I should trade in the benefits of secularist FREEDOM for the miseries of church-based slavery. It's wonderful how much freedom a woman has when she ISN'T mentally chained by the regressive doctrines of Catholicism or any other religion that treats women like second-class citizens.

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