Abortion bills force both parties to rethink political calculus

Jul 6, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Washington Post

People gather outside the state legislature as Senate Republicans gave their final approval to legislation requiring additional rules surrounding abortions in North Carolina, even as hundreds of protesters against the bill watched from the gallery in Raleigh, N.C., Wednesday,July 3. As a member of the Wisconsin State Assembly years ago, Republican ... (more)

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#83 Jul 9, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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Yes, there was snark.
If the numbers are correct, it shows many woman who don't understand contraceptives very well. That's ignorance, but not necessarily stupidity. Again, there is a difference. I mentioned no numbers, nor did I single out any group. Your question clearly indicated that you failed to understand what I was saying.
You obviously don't know a snark when you read one.

Do you honestly believe that those numbers speak well of woman when of the only 43% of women who use BC, only 13-14% of those use it correctly?

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#84 Jul 9, 2013
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The women who embrace the right to choose also don't realize that the politicians have categorized them the same way Margaret Sanger did decades ago. As useless scourge on society who couldn't produce a worthy member of society. That is why Roe vs Wade will never be overturned. Not because the politicos care about "rights" of women, but because they have identified these very women as "worthless sperm collectors". Sad and disgusting but true.
How do you feel about welfare? How do you feel about putting YOUR money where your mouth is??

If you are objected in any way then you need to take a giant step back and STFU. Don't be telling the women/girl that she has to cough it up when she already knows her circumstances.

Your excuses to force women/girls to bear unwanted pregnancies grow weaker all the time. This post is pathetic and reaching.

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#85 Jul 9, 2013
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Aw come on now, we all know that women are just victims of their bodies. Most of them aren't smart enough and/or wealthy enough to prevent a pregnancy. Of course they ARE smart enough to find a way to kill, and have the means to pay for it.
Yeah, especially those who practice NFP. And you can bet they find their way to the door of the clinic.

Jimbo and you would make a lovely pair, have you exchanged phone numbers yet? Jimbo thinks all women are sluts and bar whores and men are their victims. He will probably want to meet you at the local pub to full fill this fantasy. Enjoy!

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#86 Jul 9, 2013
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There was no snark. If the numbers are correct it doesn't show women in a very good light.
You anti choicers never see women in a good light anyway if that is what the article points out then you should be in ecstasy! You people are bible ridden with women in a bad light. Nothing new there!

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#87 Jul 9, 2013
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You anti choicers never see women in a good light anyway if that is what the article points out then you should be in ecstasy! You people are bible ridden with women in a bad light. Nothing new there!
Actually I see women in a wonderful light. Women are smart enough to know when/if they want children, they are smart enough to know how to prevent getting pregnant, and should they become pregnant they are smart/strong enough to be able to deal with that without killing the life that has been created.

Why do you think that woman are so weak that they need to kill what they don't want?
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#88 Jul 9, 2013
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I am glad I am not as free with sexual favors as you must be. How can you look at yourself if you are passed around from man to man like a piece of candy they never have to feed, or entertain, just bed. Is your momentary pleasure worth the loss of your self esteem?
Wonderful...I'm a 'slut' to you now? Your hatred spews like an open sewer drain.

NO one with self-esteem could post the filth you do. Apologize to me IMMEDIATELY for your vicious and nasty comments.

ps - I'm a guy, a--hole, not a woman. LOL!
fingiswold

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#89 Jul 9, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Who is being denied access pookie, the poor get them free, and the others don't need children if they can't afford $6 a month for pills, or $2.00 for a package of nose cones.
Where did I say "being denied access," idiot? STFU.

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#90 Jul 9, 2013
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You obviously don't know a snark when you read one.
Do you honestly believe that those numbers speak well of woman when of the only 43% of women who use BC, only 13-14% of those use it correctly?
What do you mean by "well"?

I don't know about you, but I don't judge the uneducated as "stupid".

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#91 Jul 9, 2013
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What do you mean by "well"?
I don't know about you, but I don't judge the uneducated as "stupid".
So 13-14% of the 54% are educated?

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#92 Jul 9, 2013
oops, should read:

So only 13-14% of the 54% are educated?
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#95 Jul 9, 2013
I am really disappointed by all of this discussion. Are all of you really so confident that you are right that you have to pull crap from ... well you know where it comes from. Is civil discourse dead??? it makes me wonder if all the liberals are just conniving conservatives trying to say really dumb things so they can say the other side is dumb, and of course vice-versa.
free speech is not being challenged by the government. it is being challenged by people like all of you (most of you). free speech is meaningless if you aren't interested in actually considering opposing viewpoints. ill-logic is becoming a disease. hatred on both sides. if you can't see that, please do a little introspection. I'm not saying you shouldn't be passionate, just also be reasonable, and maybe a little bit humble.

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#96 Jul 10, 2013
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Actually I see women in a wonderful light. Women are smart enough to know when/if they want children, they are smart enough to know how to prevent getting pregnant, and should they become pregnant they are smart/strong enough to be able to deal with that without killing the life that has been created.
Why do you think that woman are so weak that they need to kill what they don't want?
Could have fooled me!

Women are smart, and YOU do not know the circumstances of the women/girls you insist on belittling. Preventing a pregnancy is not YET 100%. Dealing with a pregnancy takes strength no matter which way you decide. It is funny that you determine a woman/girls strength based entirely on her reproductive decisions. You are no better than those the render women brood mares. You should think about that.

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#97 Jul 10, 2013
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One sure does wish this person called bitner was raped!
What a worthless bitch bitner is!
Wish her dead!
Right back at you ya low life rapist sympathizer!

Bitner must have kicked your smelly oversized ass sideways in debate huh?

Go lick your wounds elsewhere.

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#98 Jul 10, 2013
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I was responding to your snark, not the report. Seriously, whatever it is you think I said, you're wrong.
Then you agree with the report, right?

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#99 Jul 10, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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You anti choicers never see women in a good light anyway if that is what the article points out then you should be in ecstasy! You people are bible ridden with women in a bad light. Nothing new there!
Do you see mass murderers in a good light also?

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#100 Jul 10, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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Could have fooled me!
Women are smart, and YOU do not know the circumstances of the women/girls you insist on belittling. Preventing a pregnancy is not YET 100%. Dealing with a pregnancy takes strength no matter which way you decide. It is funny that you determine a woman/girls strength based entirely on her reproductive decisions. You are no better than those the render women brood mares. You should think about that.
It is not a reproductive decision. That was made before intercourse began. The decision is to kill or not kill because of the decision to go horizontal.
conservative crapola

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#101 Jul 10, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Do you see mass murderers in a good light also?
Mass murder? flubs = 5,000 dead U.S. military over a phoney war. And how many iraqis did flubs murder over his phoney war? That was just evantalibanical collateral damage.

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#102 Jul 10, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
That is the third state this week that has restricted Abortion. Most required no abortions after the 20th week. How stupid do you have to be to go past the 20th week before you get the abortion? Too stupid to be breeding, that is for sure.
So why obligate them to breed?

As North Carolina tacks excessive anti-abortion amendments to an unrelated bill when no one was watching, and Ohio Republicans snuck the verbiage into a budget bill and ignored the requirement for public debate, and Texas changed the rules to allow their restrictive measures to pass, but only after first curtailing mandated public hearings what none of these states are telling you is that less than 2% of all abortions happen after the twenty weeks the GOP are using as their Trojan horse to make abortions at anytime impossible. And the majority of these are those cases you hear about of exceptional circumstances, often threatening the lives of mothers.

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#103 Jul 10, 2013
Susanm wrote:
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So 13-14% of the 54% are educated?
Who knows? The poll isn't exactly very informative. Of course, that doesn't stop people like YOU from thinking it tells them all they need to know.

Again, my first post to you wasn't about the report. It was about your snarky implication. And yes, it WAS snark.

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#104 Jul 10, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Then you agree with the report, right?
About what? Raw numbers? What's to agree, or disagree with there?

Again, for the stupid, I wasn't talking about the report, which is woefully incomplete. I responded to Susan's snarky comment only.

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