Abortion bills force both parties to ...

Abortion bills force both parties to rethink political calculus

There are 1168 comments on the The Washington Post story from Jul 6, 2013, titled Abortion bills force both parties to rethink political calculus. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

People gather outside the state legislature as Senate Republicans gave their final approval to legislation requiring additional rules surrounding abortions in North Carolina, even as hundreds of protesters against the bill watched from the gallery in Raleigh, N.C., Wednesday,July 3. As a member of the Wisconsin State Assembly years ago, Republican ... (more)

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incredulous

Carmel, IN

#923 Oct 23, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
No, whining.
I don't care if people make lame attempts to insult me. No one can insult me without my consent.
React anyway you like, but whining like a spoiled little girl about name-calling isn't "constructive" at all.
There you go again....arguing and insulting someone who innocently entered into the conversation. Geez, is there no end to your bitchiness? Why don't you ask your friends to quit insulting the posters and begin a civil conversation. I'm game, are you? Of course you're not.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#924 Oct 23, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
You're the one who keeps saying that all she needed to do was pay $10 at PP, Moron.
Paying for it is not getting it "something for nothing", especially when one is getting it through insurance, where one is also paying into THAT, not just a co-pay. That is just a lie you keep repeating.
She DID want something for nothing. She wanted the insurance carrier to accomodate her on the basis of her DEMANDING something that wasn't previously covered. THIS is something for nothing. Just because she pays a co pay has nothing to do with it. In order to provide contraceptive coverage, the insurance carrier has to factor that into the cost of the student policy since they would have to subsidize the cost of all contraceptives purchased. Covering contraceptives is VERY expensive if this benefit is provided to a college population. The cost of the premium would have to go up and the school would have to absorb more cost. This is why many policies do not cover contraceptives...just as they may not cover fertility pills or procedures...just as they don't cover acne treatments/meds and so on.

Slooter wanted the school to absorb this cost which is why I don't think she was entitled to get something for nothing.

I'm afraid you are either pretending to be incredibly stupid or you really are; since you can't understand this.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#925 Oct 23, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
No, you said it's "not always" classified as a prescription medication.
Right here...
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/abortion/T6ML...
You were wrong. BC pills ARE always classified as prescription medication.
AND, wanting a particular prescription to be covered in an insurance policy that you will then have to pay for to get, is NOT asking for "something for nothing".
You ARE a Fool.
I'm NOT clicking on a link. No doubt you have taken something out of context or God forbid, attempting to exploit a poorly worded comment. You have proven nothing.

Let me clarify once again: Contraceptives ARE prescribed. I think most of us are aware of that fact. You must have a prescription to get them....are we clear on that? They may not always be part of a prescription plan as they can be excluded. I'm sure that is the gist of what I said, IF that's what I said.

I hope that clears things up and you can finally put an end to your hysterical rants. Don't you have anything productive to say besides supposedly combing through old posts to nitpick and bully? It's really weird that you spend so much time stalking people.

“Blessed Be”

Level 1

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#926 Oct 23, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>She DID want something for nothing. She wanted the insurance carrier to accomodate her on the basis of her DEMANDING something that wasn't previously covered. THIS is something for nothing. Just because she pays a co pay has nothing to do with it. In order to provide contraceptive coverage, the insurance carrier has to factor that into the cost of the student policy since they would have to subsidize the cost of all contraceptives purchased. Covering contraceptives is VERY expensive if this benefit is provided to a college population. The cost of the premium would have to go up and the school would have to absorb more cost. This is why many policies do not cover contraceptives...just as they may not cover fertility pills or procedures...just as they don't cover acne treatments/meds and so on.
Slooter wanted the school to absorb this cost which is why I don't think she was entitled to get something for nothing.
I'm afraid you are either pretending to be incredibly stupid or you really are; since you can't understand this.
No, it's not, Fool. Asking for your insurance policy, which you pay for, to cover a particular medication, is NOT wanting "something for nothing". No matter how many times you repeat this lie, it will still be just a lie.

“Blessed Be”

Level 1

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#927 Oct 23, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>I'm NOT clicking on a link. No doubt you have taken something out of context or God forbid, attempting to exploit a poorly worded comment. You have proven nothing.
Let me clarify once again: Contraceptives ARE prescribed. I think most of us are aware of that fact. You must have a prescription to get them....are we clear on that? They may not always be part of a prescription plan as they can be excluded. I'm sure that is the gist of what I said, IF that's what I said.
I hope that clears things up and you can finally put an end to your hysterical rants. Don't you have anything productive to say besides supposedly combing through old posts to nitpick and bully? It's really weird that you spend so much time stalking people.
I took nothing out of context. That was exactly what you said.

And if it was poorly worded, how is that my fault? We can only respond to what you say.

And why do you refuse to click on a link to your own words? Because you KNOW that's what you said, and don't want to face your own poorly chosen words. We got it, Coward.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#928 Oct 23, 2013
Oops: a poorly worded comment. 'BC pills are prescribed. Contraceptives may NOT necessarily need a prescription.

“Blessed Be”

Level 1

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#929 Oct 23, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>There you go again....arguing and insulting someone who innocently entered into the conversation. Geez, is there no end to your bitchiness? Why don't you ask your friends to quit insulting the posters and begin a civil conversation. I'm game, are you? Of course you're not.
I doubt you are capable of posting in a civil manner, since you haven't yet been civil.

I hate to tell you this, but I control no one's posts but my own. If you want to whine at others, feel free, but I don't ask anyone to post in a certain manner.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#930 Oct 23, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
No, it's not, Fool. Asking for your insurance policy, which you pay for, to cover a particular medication, is NOT wanting "something for nothing". No matter how many times you repeat this lie, it will still be just a lie.
There you go again....calling me a fool because you're too stupid to understand the written language. She didn't ASK she DEMANDED and went to the govt. to be her nanny and FORCE the school to absorb her costs to have contraceptive coverage. THAT is something for nothing.

For example: Gina Doe has a preventative maintenance agreement on her HVAC equipment. She pays for this policy to service the furnaces, humidfiers ect. The blower goes out and she has to pay to fix it or freeze to death. Using your logic, she should be able to expect the company to cover this cost since she already paid the PMA. And God forbid, the govt. should step in so she won't freeze to death!

Yea right.

She also could have chosen to move to a smaller and newer house that still had warranties. Life is full of choices, use them.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#931 Oct 23, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
I doubt you are capable of posting in a civil manner, since you haven't yet been civil.
I hate to tell you this, but I control no one's posts but my own. If you want to whine at others, feel free, but I don't ask anyone to post in a certain manner.
Hmmm, I thought you flew together. Sure looks like that or you are all one big stinky puppet!!!!!!!

“Blessed Be”

Level 1

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#932 Oct 23, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>There you go again....calling me a fool because you're too stupid to understand the written language. She didn't ASK she DEMANDED and went to the govt. to be her nanny and FORCE the school to absorb her costs to have contraceptive coverage. THAT is something for nothing.
For example: Gina Doe has a preventative maintenance agreement on her HVAC equipment. She pays for this policy to service the furnaces, humidfiers ect. The blower goes out and she has to pay to fix it or freeze to death. Using your logic, she should be able to expect the company to cover this cost since she already paid the PMA. And God forbid, the govt. should step in so she won't freeze to death!
Yea right.
She also could have chosen to move to a smaller and newer house that still had warranties. Life is full of choices, use them.
Insurance coverage is paid for by the person using it. Co-pays are also paid for by them. Even a demand for a particular medication to be covered under an insurance they will then be required to pay for in order to get the medication, is NOT wanting "something for nothing". It never has been "something for nothing". It never will be "something for nothing". Paying money for a product/service is not "something for nothing". Period.

No matter how many times you tell this lie, it will always be just a lie.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#933 Oct 23, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
I took nothing out of context. That was exactly what you said.
And if it was poorly worded, how is that my fault? We can only respond to what you say.
And why do you refuse to click on a link to your own words? Because you KNOW that's what you said, and don't want to face your own poorly chosen words. We got it, Coward.
OMFG, you are a nitpicking bitch who likes to argue about nothing. You know, I make all kinds of spelling, grammatical errors and yes, I just made a mistake a couple a posts earlier about contraceptives requiring a prescription. Well, I'm sure you not so stupid to not realize I meant contraceptive pills. Clearly, you have been embarrassed because you can't argue the fact the sloot wants something for nothing. You keep coming back trying to justify yourself and continue to get shut down because you are wrong.

Now you want to call me a coward because I won't click on a link? Geez, you have some serious issues. I really don't care if you found a way to twist the meaning of something I supposedly said into a way to bully and harass me. It only proves that you don't have the sense to recognize the obvious or you have nothing of substance to discuss. I noticed you said we so thanks for confirming that you really do fly with your coven of sock witches!!!

“Blessed Be”

Level 1

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#934 Oct 23, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>Hmmm, I thought you flew together. Sure looks like that or you are all one big stinky puppet!!!!!!!
It's neither, actually. But, you're not very bright.

“Blessed Be”

Level 1

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#935 Oct 23, 2013
incredulous wrote:
Oops: a poorly worded comment.'BC pills are prescribed. Contraceptives may NOT necessarily need a prescription.
The only forms of contraceptives that don't require a prescription, are condoms and spermicides, and no one was asking for those to be covered under insurance.

“Blessed Be”

Level 1

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#936 Oct 23, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>OMFG, you are a nitpicking bitch who likes to argue about nothing. You know, I make all kinds of spelling, grammatical errors and yes, I just made a mistake a couple a posts earlier about contraceptives requiring a prescription. Well, I'm sure you not so stupid to not realize I meant contraceptive pills. Clearly, you have been embarrassed because you can't argue the fact the sloot wants something for nothing. You keep coming back trying to justify yourself and continue to get shut down because you are wrong.
Now you want to call me a coward because I won't click on a link? Geez, you have some serious issues. I really don't care if you found a way to twist the meaning of something I supposedly said into a way to bully and harass me. It only proves that you don't have the sense to recognize the obvious or you have nothing of substance to discuss. I noticed you said we so thanks for confirming that you really do fly with your coven of sock witches!!!
Complete nonsense, your entire post.

Since you're wrong about the whole "something for nothing", you're now just deflecting.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#937 Oct 23, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
The only forms of contraceptives that don't require a prescription, are condoms and spermicides, and no one was asking for those to be covered under insurance.
Who thought anyone was asking besides you? Since you've made it evident you are combing through posts looking to distort the context of people's comments....I thought you needed a little clarification. It's becoming very obvious you're not able to grasp concepts quickly. Not surprised you and your other puppets will continue to resort to off topic rants since you have nothing of substance to say on this topic. Your slooter wanted something for nothing and you have nothing else to contribute that would support those views. Oh how you've tried although you looked dumber and dumber with each attempt. You've made it abundantly clear that you haven't the slightest idea how insurance works.....much less how to run a business. That must explain why you feel women must rely on the govt. since according to you they are unable to manage without it. It appears you haven't the slightest clue how to be an independent woman. If that's what you are.

It is insulting to suggest that women need to rely on the govt. Weren't you the one who complained bitterly at how they used to rely on men for support? Learn from the past and realize women should be independent, self sufficient, honest, fair, and capable of being good people who also may be mothers, wives, sisters, daughters, grandaughters and so on.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#938 Oct 23, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
Insurance coverage is paid for by the person using it. Co-pays are also paid for by them. Even a demand for a particular medication to be covered under an insurance they will then be required to pay for in order to get the medication, is NOT wanting "something for nothing". It never has been "something for nothing". It never will be "something for nothing". Paying money for a product/service is not "something for nothing". Period.
No matter how many times you tell this lie, it will always be just a lie.
Obviously, you remain oblivious to the way business works- even when given a rudimentary analogy.

Just because she pays a co pay and the insurance premium does not mean she is entitled to demand the kind of coverage she wants. She enrolled in a policy that didn't cover bc pills which is a very commen exclusion among insurance policies. She wanted the school to absorb the costs to include this coverage because she felt she was entitiled to this coverage.....regardless of how the policy was written.

In other words. she wanted her 'blower' fixed for free. Something for nothing.

“Blessed Be”

Level 1

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#939 Oct 23, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>Who thought anyone was asking besides you? Since you've made it evident you are combing through posts looking to distort the context of people's comments....I thought you needed a little clarification. It's becoming very obvious you're not able to grasp concepts quickly. Not surprised you and your other puppets will continue to resort to off topic rants since you have nothing of substance to say on this topic. Your slooter wanted something for nothing and you have nothing else to contribute that would support those views. Oh how you've tried although you looked dumber and dumber with each attempt. You've made it abundantly clear that you haven't the slightest idea how insurance works.....much less how to run a business. That must explain why you feel women must rely on the govt. since according to you they are unable to manage without it. It appears you haven't the slightest clue how to be an independent woman. If that's what you are.
It is insulting to suggest that women need to rely on the govt. Weren't you the one who complained bitterly at how they used to rely on men for support? Learn from the past and realize women should be independent, self sufficient, honest, fair, and capable of being good people who also may be mothers, wives, sisters, daughters, grandaughters and so on.
Contraceptives ARE the topic, Dishonest One.

I distorted nothing. I merely responded to what YOU said.

No, I never said anything about women relying on men for support.

WHO can't keep up? That would be you.

You are wrong. She did not want "something for nothing". Please explain how getting something you're paying for is getting "something for nothing".

“Blessed Be”

Level 1

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#940 Oct 23, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>Obviously, you remain oblivious to the way business works- even when given a rudimentary analogy.
Just because she pays a co pay and the insurance premium does not mean she is entitled to demand the kind of coverage she wants. She enrolled in a policy that didn't cover bc pills which is a very commen exclusion among insurance policies. She wanted the school to absorb the costs to include this coverage because she felt she was entitiled to this coverage.....regardless of how the policy was written.
In other words. she wanted her 'blower' fixed for free. Something for nothing.
Oh, do stop pretending you're a woman. You're fooling no one.

And no, that is not wanting "something for nothing". And yes, employees do have rights, especially when the business is excluding a medication based on nothing but religious beliefs.

“Define Necessity”

Since: Mar 13

FOR YOURSELF

#941 Oct 23, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>you refuse to acknowledge that by pretending it is a prescription medication which it is NOT always classified as that.
See, there you go! There is nothing more disgusting than someone who refuses to admit when they are dead wrong.
Ink

Havertown, PA

#942 Oct 23, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>There you go again....arguing and insulting someone who innocently entered into the conversation. Geez, is there no end to your bitchiness? Why don't you ask your friends to quit insulting the posters and begin a civil conversation. I'm game, are you? Of course you're not.
She has one talent in her life. Don't stifle her. She gets very brave on the internet. I've thought in the past that she must be a dishrag at home and gets out her animosity on here in the virtual world.

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