Abortion bills force both parties to ...

Abortion bills force both parties to rethink political calculus

There are 1168 comments on the The Washington Post story from Jul 6, 2013, titled Abortion bills force both parties to rethink political calculus. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

People gather outside the state legislature as Senate Republicans gave their final approval to legislation requiring additional rules surrounding abortions in North Carolina, even as hundreds of protesters against the bill watched from the gallery in Raleigh, N.C., Wednesday,July 3. As a member of the Wisconsin State Assembly years ago, Republican ... (more)

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incredulous

Carmel, IN

#801 Oct 21, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
<quoted text>
All that drivel and not one word
mentioned about dads, fathers, men.
It's all the fault of the slut-moms.
You do know it takes a penis to make a
child, right? I guess in your alternate
universe men are perfect and women are
just there for your pleasure to feed you
and phuck you and raise the kids by
themselves. lmao. How macho!
You are a knuckle dragging mouth breather and a misogynist. Your opinion comes directly from your asshole and has absolutely no substance or intelligence attached to it. Our economy has declined in the last 20 years. Our incomes have decreased while our taxes, mortgages, gas, food etc prices continue to increase.
****Women have to work.******
****Two income homes in******
****America aren't a choice***
****they are a necessity.****
Must you continue to exploit your ignorance so shamelessly? I said parents, not women although maybe since YOU are such a penis hater ...it wouldn't occur to you that men and women are parents. Here is what I said, " have seen this for years and it seems to be getting worse. There are so many parents demanding that schools watch their kids before and after school so they can work. The expect the govt. to babysit THEIR children at taxpayer expense. There still are a handful of parents who choose to put their kids first and they will volunteer in the schools but it's only a handful. Ironically, many of these working moms criticize the SAHMS while at the same time expect them to care for their kids. It's atrocious. So when I read all these whiney caustic posts from liberals, it makes me laugh at the hypocrisy. Unfortunately, the kids have to suffer for their selfishness."
There are women AND men who stay at home, dumbass....although liberal bitter women seem to be most critical. They always seem to put down the woman who put her kids first which is why they made a SAHM to be a dirty word. They also put down men who do that to but seem to be more accepting when the man does it. Either way, I admire those who put their kids first and you don't. Sounds like you want to blame men for all your problems. It certainly explains your ten foot pole bruises.
I don't think you should have kids if you can't give them your 100% which is why I don't feel too sorry for idiots who have kids they can't afford.....and then they blame everyone else for their problems.
1. You don't HAVE to work, unless you want to. It's a choice how much time you want to invest in your children.(Divorce and spousal death is another issue)
2. Two income households have caused the cost of living to increase although the household buying power also increased. Combine incomes and even the most uneducated blue collar workers could afford a lifestyle they never would have attained on one paycheck. So with the keeping up with the Joneses, more went to work. Soon more people could afford products and services only the wealthy could afford. Two incomes allowed more people access to 'things' and that has had a very bad influence on society.
3. Another reason for two income hh is the shaming by some by their own gender. When women and girls are told they are worthless for choosing children over career, that tends to have an impact as well.
Women and men have the ability to make choices and many do. There are women and men who prefer raising their children rather than dumping them off to strangers. They make sacrifices because their children are more important than a newer car or fancy vacation. That IS what it boils down to in many instances. Why have children if you don't want to raise them?
You can thank oscumma for the horrendous economy we have had since the slout took office.
Oh, and please don't project your slut mom on strangers. Just because yours was one doesn't mean that all mothers are.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#802 Oct 21, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
<quoted text>"...said the uneducated fruit loop to the slut.
Tell us more about the Catholic Church being democratic cuz the last 4 presidential election cycles they sure seemed to back conservaturd republicans. Oh, wait, you think if someone is gay they are democrat so if Catholic priests are raping boys they must be dems and if they are raping girls they must be repubs? Now there's some rationale for ya! lmao
Please, keep typing. You are a hoot and a half and I bet other
posters are chuckling as much as I am every time you post your drivel.
Your obsession with Catholics seems to correlate with the liberal media's obsession with brainwashing the masses into believing they are some kind of political demons. Catholics traditionally have been democrat although there are liberatarians and Republicans among them as in any group. Rather than being such a clueless bigot, you should educate yourself.

I'm sorry you're too stupid to understand a rather simple analogy but I didn't realize anyone could be dumber than dirt....until now.

There are all kinds of pedophiles....and they can be conservative, liberal or in between. The majority of same sex attacks are from homosexuals, btw. It could be why the Catholic church may take issue with gays since after all.....they tried to be inclusive and look what happened!!!!
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#803 Oct 21, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
<quoted text>It's always a red flag for me when someone belittles strong, independent, educated women.
In most cases, they are women who chose to get married over going to college and after being in the trenches of child bearing, bill paying, house cleaning and marriage woes dad after day, month after month, year after year, they realize those college sluts were not only smarter than them but in their lifetimes, those college sluts will earn an average of $1 million more than uneducated women. They will have successful marriages, well rounded children, less likely to become addicted to drugs or alcohol and are less likely to divorce etc.
You can see why that poster is so angry and jealous. Probably hasn't had an orgasm in years, if ever. Just pity them and those like her.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with strong, independent and educated women.....who is belittling them? Sandy Sloot is not strong or independent and I question how she ever got admitted into the university unless she filled the lezbo quota. A strong independent woman does not need to rely on big govt. A smart and independent woman would have decided what kind of college would meet her academic, social and personal needs. She certainly would know prior to college how much contraception will cost and most certainly how that would fit within her college budget. Isn't that slooter at least 30? What kind of stupid sloot would complain about not being able to afford ten bucks in contraception and yet somehow manage to attend one of the most expensive colleges in the country? She is an insult to all women and a stupid dirty sloot to boot!

Who said you shouldn't be educated if you choose to stay at home a parent your offspring? As a matter of fact, education is one of the greatest gifts you can give to your children. Educated parents should be a requirement but alas the commies won't have that 'nonsense'!

I have to laugh about where you get this idea that a parent who stays at home with their children are more addicted to drugs, alcohol and more likely to divorce? Have you been watching Desperate Housewives? Honestly, I can see why it's so easy for the media to brainwash the masses when they are as stupid as you are.

Smart, independent, educated and well rounded parents commit to their children every day. There is nothing more rewarding than that. It's obvious you are clueless in terms of how married couples are able to take full responsibility for their children and STILL have rewarding experiences beyond parenting. I am sorry you are not bright enough to realize this. Expected, however.

“Define Necessity”

Since: Mar 13

FOR YOURSELF

#804 Oct 21, 2013
(Contents condensed to eliminate redundancy)
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>Must you continue to exploit your ignorance so shamelessly? YOU are such a penis hater ...it wouldn't occur to you that men and women are parents. There are women AND men who stay at home, dumbass....although liberal bitter women always seem to put down the woman who put her kids first which is why they made a SAHM to be a dirty word. I don't think you should have kids if you can't give them your 100% which is why I don't feel too sorry for idiots who have kids they can't afford.....and then they blame everyone else for their problems.
You can thank oscumma for the horrendous economy we have had since the slout took office.
Oh, and please don't project your slut mom on strangers. Just because yours was one doesn't mean that all mothers are.

There are also women who would prefer that the insurance we pay for, covers our medical needs...including contraception and abortion. While it's true that some employers in the US are now being required to provide health coverage (a fact which a single payer program would alleviate) it ISN'T true that the coverage they offer was as comprehensive for women as it was for men. Oscumma care levels the playing field. I frankly don't see the problem with that.

Level 1

Since: Apr 10

La Canada Flintridge, CA

#805 Oct 21, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Somebody should tell the liberals that killing 23 million female babies is the ultimate war on women, not just some strawman over pills.
Your mom should have aborted you .

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Level 1

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#806 Oct 21, 2013
Vet wrote:
<quoted text>I assumed that since you support killing unborn children under any circumstance, you aren't Catholic so the use of contraception wouldn't be abhorrent. get some help with your anger and guilt issues.
What I support is a woman/girls right to make her own decisions within the guidelines laid out in RvW which apparently is way over your head.

You are correct I do not follow ANY misogynistic male hierarchy religion, catholicism leading the parade with their objections to a woman having any control or say over her body.

Thanks for your concern but I have no need for any help, I am quite happy and free to make my own decisions....bummer for you huh?

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Level 1

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#807 Oct 21, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>It appears I must have commented on YOUR lifestyle as well as your degenerate pals. The fact you continue to on and on about this and a person named Missy suggests your troubled pathology extends beyond the scope of this forum. Your name suits you although I would think with Halloween nearly here, you would be in a better mood. PETA will be knocking on your door soon to release all those poor tortured animals you have been keeping for your coven parties.
You are Missy & hahahaha, AND you are a male, you were outed. You really are not that clever.

hahahaha
Carmel, IN
hahahaha wrote:
<quoted text> If the Catholics weren't so open minded and inclusive, they wouldn't have let the homosexual priests in-- in the first place. Because of their egalitarian views on these gay priests.....the epidemic of child molestation took place.
They have infiltrated Boy Scouts, schools, churches, daycare centers........anywhere there are children. Now they want to marry and adopt.
Your views on Catholic women are ignorant and vastly uninformed. If these women felt they were discriminated in the way you claim, there would have been an exodus long ago. Certainly, there are some who don't agree and that's fine. There are many other choices to make in that regard. The constitution protects all of us by allowing us the freedom to choose how we are to worship and IF we want to in the first place.
I have no doubt you are the butch dyke here with the stench because the more genteel members are far more pleasant to be around.
hahahaha wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, it's YOUR ignorance that astounds everyone! Pedophillia is most certainly a crime you dumb fk but since the Catholics were so darn inclusive with the gays...it created a bit of a problem. Well now they are not going to be so welcoming to those predators so that's that. As far as women in the priesthood, it's not happening for the moment. Who knows what will happen in the future but you should know organized religion has many avenues for women to pursue this kind of leadership. Those who feel wronged by the Church's beliefs have left and gone to places they feel more comfortable. That's how it works in a free society. Of course you and the obama nazis want everyone to walk in lockstep with the liberal agenda but in a free society, like the United States, there will be many who will oppose you. People may worship the way they want in this country so get over it you hateful bi*tch.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/abortion/TIVN...

Get some new material, Missy Man hahahaha.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Level 1

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#808 Oct 21, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
What I ACTUALLY said, Moron, is that student insurance is paid for by student tuition. So that asking for something to BE covered under that insurance, which is paid for by the student tuition, is NOT asking for "something for nothing". Learn to read.
Hey Bitner!

Recall this conversation?

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/abortion/TIVN...

Same moron!
Vet

Fayetteville, GA

#809 Oct 21, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
What I support is a woman/girls right to make her own decisions within the guidelines laid out in RvW which apparently is way over your head.
You are correct I do not follow ANY misogynistic male hierarchy religion, catholicism leading the parade with their objections to a woman having any control or say over her body.
Thanks for your concern but I have no need for any help, I am quite happy and free to make my own decisions....bummer for you huh?
RvW is horrendous law. So, you are an atheist, that means you believe in... nothing. Your basis for morality is whatever makes you feel good. This is a morbidly flawed philosophy and is probably the reason for your anger and guilt. A reputable social worker, psychiatrist or psychologist can help but you must take the first step.
Vet

Fayetteville, GA

#810 Oct 21, 2013
dedbebbies wrote:
(Contents condensed to eliminate redundancy)
<quoted text>
There are also women who would prefer that the insurance we pay for, covers our medical needs...including contraception and abortion. While it's true that some employers in the US are now being required to provide health coverage (a fact which a single payer program would alleviate) it ISN'T true that the coverage they offer was as comprehensive for women as it was for men. Oscumma care levels the playing field. I frankly don't see the problem with that.
The single payer option must be passed by Congress. It will not.
Vet

Fayetteville, GA

#811 Oct 21, 2013
dedbebbies wrote:
<quoted text>I'm sure you have a few oceanfront lots for sale in Arizona, too, buddy.
I wouldn't let a knuckle-dragging cretin like you anywhere NEAR my psyche, even if you were a psychologist, rather than the assistant janitor at Hillsboro Village Middle School.
Nice try, though...
Firstly, you aren't my buddy, secondly, the job of assistant janitor at Hillsboro Middle School is open, are you qualified?
Vet

Fayetteville, GA

#812 Oct 21, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
What I ACTUALLY said, Moron, is that student insurance is paid for by student tuition. So that asking for something to BE covered under that insurance, which is paid for by the student tuition, is NOT asking for "something for nothing". Learn to read.
What I told you is that student health care insurance is not part of student tuition. It is separate at many universities. I do know how to read, perhaps you don't.
Vet

Fayetteville, GA

#813 Oct 21, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>There is absolutely nothing wrong with strong, independent and educated women.....who is belittling them? Sandy Sloot is not strong or independent and I question how she ever got admitted into the university unless she filled the lezbo quota. A strong independent woman does not need to rely on big govt. A smart and independent woman would have decided what kind of college would meet her academic, social and personal needs. She certainly would know prior to college how much contraception will cost and most certainly how that would fit within her college budget. Isn't that slooter at least 30? What kind of stupid sloot would complain about not being able to afford ten bucks in contraception and yet somehow manage to attend one of the most expensive colleges in the country? She is an insult to all women and a stupid dirty sloot to boot!
Who said you shouldn't be educated if you choose to stay at home a parent your offspring? As a matter of fact, education is one of the greatest gifts you can give to your children. Educated parents should be a requirement but alas the commies won't have that 'nonsense'!
I have to laugh about where you get this idea that a parent who stays at home with their children are more addicted to drugs, alcohol and more likely to divorce? Have you been watching Desperate Housewives? Honestly, I can see why it's so easy for the media to brainwash the masses when they are as stupid as you are.
Smart, independent, educated and well rounded parents commit to their children every day. There is nothing more rewarding than that. It's obvious you are clueless in terms of how married couples are able to take full responsibility for their children and STILL have rewarding experiences beyond parenting. I am sorry you are not bright enough to realize this. Expected, however.
Excellent post, "incredulous" and the fact that it is not succinct is irrelevant. Thanks.
Vet

Fayetteville, GA

#814 Oct 21, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
<quoted text>It's always a red flag for me when someone belittles strong, independent, educated women.
In most cases, they are women who chose to get married over going to college and after being in the trenches of child bearing, bill paying, house cleaning and marriage woes dad after day, month after month, year after year, they realize those college sluts were not only smarter than them but in their lifetimes, those college sluts will earn an average of $1 million more than uneducated women. They will have successful marriages, well rounded children, less likely to become addicted to drugs or alcohol and are less likely to divorce etc.
You can see why that poster is so angry and jealous. Probably hasn't had an orgasm in years, if ever. Just pity them and those like her.
This is total drivel. There are no studies that support anything in this post. Total garbage.

“Define Necessity”

Since: Mar 13

FOR YOURSELF

#815 Oct 21, 2013
Vet wrote:
<quoted text>Firstly, you aren't my buddy, secondly, the job of assistant janitor at Hillsboro Middle School is open, are you qualified?
When did you quit.. or did they let you go when they caught you fiddling with the locks on the stalls in the student bathrooms....setting up cameras....?

(See, I can run with my imagination, just like you can.)

Well, except that I don't claim to be a prominent television writer, or the author of the Great American Novel....

Just a small business owner.
Don't need the janitor's job, but sorry about your loss.

Next...
Vet

Fayetteville, GA

#816 Oct 21, 2013
dedbebbies wrote:
<quoted text>When did you quit.. or did they let you go when they caught you fiddling with the locks on the stalls in the student bathrooms....setting up cameras....?
(See, I can run with my imagination, just like you can.)
Well, except that I don't claim to be a prominent television writer, or the author of the Great American Novel....
Just a small business owner.
Don't need the janitor's job, but sorry about your loss.
Next...
So, you aren't qualified for the janitor's job. Bummer.
Vet

Fayetteville, GA

#817 Oct 21, 2013
dedbebbies wrote:
<quoted text>When did you quit.. or did they let you go when they caught you fiddling with the locks on the stalls in the student bathrooms....setting up cameras....?
(See, I can run with my imagination, just like you can.)
Well, except that I don't claim to be a prominent television writer, or the author of the Great American Novel....
Just a small business owner.
Don't need the janitor's job, but sorry about your loss.
Next...
Next what? The next stupid post from you?

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Level 1

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#818 Oct 21, 2013
Vet wrote:
<quoted text>RvW is horrendous law. So, you are an atheist, that means you believe in... nothing. Your basis for morality is whatever makes you feel good. This is a morbidly flawed philosophy and is probably the reason for your anger and guilt. A reputable social worker, psychiatrist or psychologist can help but you must take the first step.
RvW is excellent law. It recognized FINALLY a womans right to choose and decide over her medical reproductive well being. I know this torments misogynistic males but....OH WELL...bummer for them!

Wrong again not an atheist, you are scoring nothing in your make believe psychology career. My basis for morality is justice which makes for happy people. Unlike the guilt tripping bible banging misogynists that cannot accept a woman enjoying herself outside of subservient submissive twit who bows to the whim of her superior males for permission to smile.
Vet

Fayetteville, GA

#819 Oct 21, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
RvW is excellent law. It recognized FINALLY a womans right to choose and decide over her medical reproductive well being. I know this torments misogynistic males but....OH WELL...bummer for them!
Wrong again not an atheist, you are scoring nothing in your make believe psychology career. My basis for morality is justice which makes for happy people. Unlike the guilt tripping bible banging misogynists that cannot accept a woman enjoying herself outside of subservient submissive twit who bows to the whim of her superior males for permission to smile.
My remote diagnosis is correct. Extreme anger toward males, probably from being treated badly in the past. Extreme guilt from killing your child, possible alcohol or drugs causing prenatal problems and a definite morbid hatred for religion due to the consequences of poor choices.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Level 1

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#820 Oct 21, 2013
Vet wrote:
<quoted text>Next what? The next stupid post from you?
Only if she continues to follow in your footsteps.

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