Abortion bills force both parties to ...

Abortion bills force both parties to rethink political calculus

There are 1168 comments on the The Washington Post story from Jul 6, 2013, titled Abortion bills force both parties to rethink political calculus. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

People gather outside the state legislature as Senate Republicans gave their final approval to legislation requiring additional rules surrounding abortions in North Carolina, even as hundreds of protesters against the bill watched from the gallery in Raleigh, N.C., Wednesday,July 3. As a member of the Wisconsin State Assembly years ago, Republican ... (more)

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“Blessed Be”

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#478 Jul 24, 2013
Dan wrote:
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All I did was mention components of your argument. It sounded just as "deliberately obtuse" the first time when you brought all that up.
Your position is (I believe) that the abortion decision is one the woman makes a decision for herself, while simultaneously maintaining that the fetus acted upon in the decision she makes dies.
Have I paraphrased you accurately?
No, what you did was to take components of my argument that I never said depended on each other, and tell me I was doing just that. It was dishonest of you.
Dan

Atlanta, GA

#479 Jul 24, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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No, what you did was to take components of my argument that I never said depended on each other, and tell me I was doing just that. It was dishonest of you.
You brought them up.

If you don't wanted them replied to, don't bring them into the discussion and then whine "dishonest" when someone takes note of them.

“Blessed Be”

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#480 Jul 24, 2013
Dan wrote:
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You brought them up.
If you don't wanted them replied to, don't bring them into the discussion and then whine "dishonest" when someone takes note of them.
But I never said, or implied that the one was dependent on the other, which you tried to claim for me. That WAS dishonest of you.

“BILLARY 2016 ”

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#481 Jul 24, 2013
Dan wrote:
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She was? Where'd she get it?
Lots of slogans in one post. Bravo for your efficiency and for proving my point that it's always someone else's fault.
Uterus's don't impregnate themselves. They need a penis and last time I checked, men have penis's.

Again, how is abortion the women's fault when it takes two people to fertilize an egg? If birth control fails, why is it only her fault and why do you believe forcing her to have a child is punishment? Thought you pro liars LIKED children?

I'll wait for your deflection.

“BILLARY 2016 ”

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#482 Jul 24, 2013
Dan needs to get out of the house more. I went on vacation for 5 days, only to come back and see that Dan is still rambling on and on and ON about abortion a couple hundred posts later in just a few days.

Get a life, Dan. Unless you can shoot a baby out of your peepee, this really has nothing to do with you since you believe men have no stake in the abortion process anyway, only us whory-women.....lmao.
Dan

Atlanta, GA

#483 Jul 24, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
<quoted text>Uterus's don't impregnate themselves. They need a penis and last time I checked, men have penis's.
Again, how is abortion the women's fault when it takes two people to fertilize an egg? If birth control fails, why is it only her fault and why do you believe forcing her to have a child is punishment? Thought you pro liars LIKED children?
I'll wait for your deflection.
The woman's one of the two people.

Only she can become pregnant. She faces all the risks, as everyone keep telling me. I'd assume that she'd act in her own best interests bearing that in mind. If she doesn't, then the abortion decision is hers, not the man's. Who other than the woman, then, is responsible for the abortion decision?

Dan

Atlanta, GA

#484 Jul 24, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
Dan needs to get out of the house more. I went on vacation for 5 days, only to come back and see that Dan is still rambling on and on and ON about abortion a couple hundred posts later in just a few days.
Get a life, Dan. Unless you can shoot a baby out of your peepee, this really has nothing to do with you since you believe men have no stake in the abortion process anyway, only us whory-women.....lmao.
.....yet here you are, worrying about me, and it's me who needs to "get a life"?

“BILLARY 2016 ”

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#485 Jul 26, 2013
Dan wrote:
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.....yet here you are, worrying about me, and it's me who needs to "get a life"?
Worried? lol Goodness no, Dan.
Entertained maybe, but not worried.

The latest judicial ruling overturned a
ridiculous anti-abortion law, just this past
week, and deemed it unconstitutional. This will
also happen to the idiots in Texass who have also
set their sites on destroying the liberties of
American women, much like the Taliban in the
middle east has tried to reduce women to
the same level of importance that dogs currently enjoy.
Good luck with that, zippy.

You're just another example of why women are now
at the top echelon of every university in the United
States. We are smarter than you, stronger than you and we will
be running this country in just a few short years.
Put your big boy pants on and accept it.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#486 Jul 26, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
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Worried? lol Goodness no, Dan.
Entertained maybe, but not worried.
The latest judicial ruling overturned a
ridiculous anti-abortion law, just this past
week, and deemed it unconstitutional. This will
also happen to the idiots in Texass who have also
set their sites on destroying the liberties of
American women, much like the Taliban in the
middle east has tried to reduce women to
the same level of importance that dogs currently enjoy.
Good luck with that, zippy.
You're just another example of why women are now
at the top echelon of every university in the United
States. We are smarter than you, stronger than you and we will
be running this country in just a few short years.
Put your big boy pants on and accept it.
As of 2011, only 26% of US college and university presidents were female.

I checked that out while wearing my big boy pants.

“BILLARY 2016 ”

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#487 Jul 26, 2013
Dan wrote:
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As of 2011, only 26% of US college and university presidents were female.
I checked that out while wearing my big boy pants.
That is frustrating. Women are gaining seats in Congress, in the Fortune 500 Companies BUT it's slow going, mostly because of the Good ole boys club. Luckily, money, power and a penis don't guarantee you success anymore. Those guys are dying out now and women are moving up to replace them. It's our destiny.

Currently, though, in universities across the country and the world, women are the top students, the top performers and it's all because we were told boys were better for so long. Now we don't have to say a word. Our grades and success speak for themselves.

To deny it is to deny reality. Good luck with that.

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#488 Aug 4, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
<quoted text>That is frustrating. Women are gaining seats in Congress, in the Fortune 500 Companies BUT it's slow going, mostly because of the Good ole boys club. Luckily, money, power and a penis don't guarantee you success anymore. Those guys are dying out now and women are moving up to replace them. It's our destiny.
Currently, though, in universities across the country and the world, women are the top students, the top performers and it's all because we were told boys were better for so long. Now we don't have to say a word. Our grades and success speak for themselves.
To deny it is to deny reality. Good luck with that.
I do not think women are the best students. At least in my experience they are not. What they are is passive and gullible. 75% of the stuff being pushed in universities now is garbage. And the girls eat it up like dogs. They cannot think. All they can do is repeat what the instructor says. And of course, theyg et good grades for being lap dogs.

“BILLARY 2016 ”

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#489 Aug 7, 2013
Abdurratln wrote:
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I do not think women are the best students. At least in my experience they are not. What they are is passive and gullible. 75% of the stuff being pushed in universities now is garbage. And the girls eat it up like dogs. They cannot think. All they can do is repeat what the instructor says. And of course, theyg et good grades for being lap dogs.
HAHAHAHAHA!

I don't know what's worse; your misogyny or your stupidity!

Obviously, you haven't been in a university or college setting in quite some time. My kid's freshman class entered their university with a 4.2 GPA and the engineering program is one of the best in the country and it's filled with women, not girls, women. Clearly you are threatened by that, which is your problem, not mine or any other women's problem.

Women are excelling in every subject and when you attend a commencement ceremony today, the Valedictorian is almost always a female.

Now, go lick your own balls. Women don't sit in laps of professors nor do they obey stupid men like you anymore. lmao

Lap that up, zippy.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#490 Aug 7, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
<quoted text>HAHAHAHAHA!
I don't know what's worse; your misogyny or your stupidity!
Obviously, you haven't been in a university or college setting in quite some time. My kid's freshman class entered their university with a 4.2 GPA and the engineering program is one of the best in the country and it's filled with women, not girls, women. Clearly you are threatened by that, which is your problem, not mine or any other women's problem.
Women are excelling in every subject and when you attend a commencement ceremony today, the Valedictorian is almost always a female.
Now, go lick your own balls. Women don't sit in laps of professors nor do they obey stupid men like you anymore. lmao
Lap that up, zippy.
Your kid must go to an all-girls' school.

Nationally, women make up around 18-20% of engineering students.

Facts are facts, "zippy".

“BILLARY 2016 ”

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#491 Aug 7, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Your kid must go to an all-girls' school.
Nationally, women make up around 18-20% of engineering students.
Facts are facts, "zippy".
Again, your insecurity as a boy/man is quite entertaining as are your multiple avatars. Good luck with that, zippy.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#492 Aug 7, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
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Again, your insecurity as a boy/man is quite entertaining as are your multiple avatars. Good luck with that, zippy.
What insecurity? What multiple avatars?

I don't have some gyno-centric compulsion or similar affliction, as you clearly evidence here.

Simply supplying you with facts.
fingiswold

United States

#493 Oct 7, 2013
Dan wrote:
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You brought them up.
If you don't wanted them replied to, don't bring them into the discussion and then whine "dishonest" when someone takes note of them.
You're notorious for disingenuous arguments, hair-splitting, and sophism, Dan. I see you haven't changed.

Just to state my position, I support a woman's right to abortion choice right up to birth.

Hope that isn't confusing to you.
zef

Marina Del Rey, CA

#494 Oct 8, 2013
fingiswold wrote:
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You're notorious for disingenuous arguments, hair-splitting, and sophism, Dan. I see you haven't changed.
Just to state my position, I support a woman's right to abortion choice right up to birth.
Hope that isn't confusing to you.
No one has the right to kill anyone, no matter how much you blindly worship women, or how candy coated you make their atrocities seem.
Your "position" does not negate any ones right to life, no matter how much disdain you might have for the lives of young people.
zef

Marina Del Rey, CA

#495 Oct 9, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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Inside hers and attached to hers and using hers. It is NOT separate. Which makes her decision about HER body, pregnancy, uterus, circumstance and morals.
You may hold the OPINION that the decision is not about her alone, but it is only an opinion. One that binds no one else.

“BILLARY 2016 ”

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#496 Oct 9, 2013
zef wrote:
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No one has the right to kill anyone, no matter how much you blindly worship women, or how candy coated you make their atrocities seem.
Your "position" does not negate any ones right to life, no matter how much disdain you might have for the lives of young people.
Dan, Dan Dan.
Just use your own name.
God gave doctors the knowledge
to perform safe abortions.
Even God knows there's nothing
worse than being born to a woman
that doesn't want you.

Shame on you for trying to punish
women and babies. "Judge not yest
ye be judged".
Dan

Atlanta, GA

#497 Oct 9, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
<quoted text>Dan, Dan Dan.
Just use your own name.
God gave doctors the knowledge
to perform safe abortions.
Even God knows there's nothing
worse than being born to a woman
that doesn't want you.
Shame on you for trying to punish
women and babies. "Judge not yest
ye be judged".
I'm not "zef" and please explain how you're so familiar with what "God knows".

Quite a claim on your part.

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