Abortion bills force both parties to ...

Abortion bills force both parties to rethink political calculus

There are 1168 comments on the The Washington Post story from Jul 6, 2013, titled Abortion bills force both parties to rethink political calculus. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

People gather outside the state legislature as Senate Republicans gave their final approval to legislation requiring additional rules surrounding abortions in North Carolina, even as hundreds of protesters against the bill watched from the gallery in Raleigh, N.C., Wednesday,July 3. As a member of the Wisconsin State Assembly years ago, Republican ... (more)

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Morgana 9

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#193 Jul 14, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Who would want power in a loser and child killers life........oh yes, the Obama's.
You want power over every womans decision. Try listening to yourself instead of the voices in your head schizo.

Morgana 9

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#194 Jul 14, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
It is not normal in a civilized world, where birth control is abundant for an expectant Mother to kill the unborn child. In a jungle somewhere it might seem acceptable, but nowhere else.
What is not normal is a bunch of busybodies thinking they know better and should have a say over a womans private health decision. Not normal at all, if anything they are looking for attention and control.

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#195 Jul 14, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
No, I am personally not pro choice, but if women want an abortion, and have baby daddy's to pay, do your thing. Just don't ask normal people to pay.
That excludes you, then. You are anything but normal.
Cat74

United States

#196 Jul 14, 2013
It isn't about the woman's right to kill their own child. ( Yes, it is a child, not a carrot, or a tomato) It is about murder. If you don't want to get pregnant, sober up, and use birth control. Women would be more careful if they had to pay for the abortion themselves.

Morgana 9

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#197 Jul 14, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
It isn't about the woman's right to kill their own child.( Yes, it is a child, not a carrot, or a tomato) It is about murder. If you don't want to get pregnant, sober up, and use birth control. Women would be more careful if they had to pay for the abortion themselves.
I thought you were okey dokey with abortion as long as you were not paying the bill?

Make up your fricking mind!

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#198 Jul 14, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
It isn't about the woman's right to kill their own child.( Yes, it is a child, not a carrot, or a tomato) It is about murder. If you don't want to get pregnant, sober up, and use birth control. Women would be more careful if they had to pay for the abortion themselves.
Where are you getting the idea that you've paid for anybody's abortion??

Women already pay for our own abortions. Most insurance doesn't cover them, and the Hyde Amendment makes it ILLEGAL for medicare to cover them.

Somebody brainwash you, or what?
Cat74

United States

#199 Jul 14, 2013
We pay for planned parenthood, and they do more Abortions then any other group in the country. Yes, we pay for abortions.
fingiswold

Newark, OH

#200 Jul 14, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
Hurray for all the women who have husbands to pay. Unfortunately 99%of women are not married, and most don't even know for sure who impregnated them. I don't want to pay for any.
for lying you should have to pay for ALL of them, pig
fingiswold

Newark, OH

#201 Jul 14, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
It isn't about the woman's right to kill their own child.( Yes, it is a child, not a carrot, or a tomato) It is about murder. If you don't want to get pregnant, sober up, and use birth control. Women would be more careful if they had to pay for the abortion themselves.
no one's murdering children, that's slanderous religious right propaganda. you should be prevented from lying and slandering people, it's not part of your 'free speech' rights, nazi
fingiswold

Newark, OH

#202 Jul 14, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
We pay for planned parenthood, and they do more Abortions then any other group in the country. Yes, we pay for abortions.
no one pays for abortions, liar, ever hear of the hyde amendment? goddam but you are stupid..

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#203 Jul 14, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
We pay for planned parenthood, and they do more Abortions then any other group in the country. Yes, we pay for abortions.
No, you don't. Taxpayer dollars ARE NOT USED to pay for abortions. Only donations CAN be used to cover them - so if you're not directly donating, you're not paying.

Sorry to confuse you with the facts.
Cat74

United States

#204 Jul 14, 2013
Again, in smaller words, Tax payers pay for planned parenthood. Planned parenthood does the greatest number of Abortion in the U S, therefore we pay for abortions.

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#205 Jul 14, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
Again, in smaller words, Tax payers pay for planned parenthood. Planned parenthood does the greatest number of Abortion in the U S, therefore we pay for abortions.
Deliberate obtuseness does not win this debate, kitten.

Taxpayers alone do not pay for Planned Parenthood.
The three percent of PP's services which comprise abortion services, are paid for by private donations. That means the people that DONATE money to PP, are the only ones whose dollars pay for abortions. Now if you want to say that the taxpayer dollar keeps the doors to PP clinics open, you'd be right. But PP offers dozens of other services....97% of services offered by PP have NOTHING to do with abortions: except for the ones preventing them.

Unless you're donating specifically to PP, you have no reason to bitch about 'paying for someone's abortion'- and if you ARE donating to PP, you're free to stop at any time.

My taxdollars pay for drones over Afghanistan. I'd rather they paid for abortions - but I don't make those calls.

Get over yourself.
Cat74

United States

#206 Jul 14, 2013
I would rather my tax money paid for military weapons then Planned Parenthood, and free cell phones, but we don't have the choice, and you can twist the budget anyway you want, but Americans do pay for abortions, and with Obamacare they will pay all over he place. Not in real hospitals, because the women who abort their unborn would rather go to Gosnell like holes in the wall.
Cujo

Regina, Canada

#207 Jul 15, 2013
CBOW wrote:
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As with many cases of "law"; someone indeed has to decide what is considered responsible and irresponsible. Abortion is simply legalized murder, it stops a beating heart. How old are you that you don't recognize responsibility unless it concurs with your ideals? Very childlike.
The "Law" states that it is legal. I told, you, don't compare it to murder, cause it's not, no matter what you say. Do you understand, the fetus is part of the mother's body, and her decision to make. A fetus is not concidered a baby or a person, for the simple fact, it can not breath nor live on it's own without it's host.
Dan

Atlanta, GA

#208 Jul 15, 2013
Cujo wrote:
<quoted text>
The "Law" states that it is legal. I told, you, don't compare it to murder, cause it's not, no matter what you say. Do you understand, the fetus is part of the mother's body, and her decision to make. A fetus is not concidered a baby or a person, for the simple fact, it can not breath nor live on it's own without it's host.
Even PP doesn't believe that the fetus is part of the woman's body.

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#209 Jul 15, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
I would rather my tax money paid for military weapons then Planned Parenthood, and free cell phones, but we don't have the choice, and you can twist the budget anyway you want, but Americans do pay for abortions, and with Obamacare they will pay all over he place. Not in real hospitals, because the women who abort their unborn would rather go to Gosnell like holes in the wall.
Of course you support weapons that kill children. You prefer to protect a fertilized egg more than a living breathing child.

I guess you also sleep like a baby knowing that 40,000 children starve to death every day, which is a slow and painful death as compared to a zygote who is incapable of feeling or thinking.

Great cause to through your weight behind and as much as you sit on your fatass and blog all day, I'm sure that's a lot of weight behind you.

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#210 Jul 15, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
Again, in smaller words, Tax payers pay for planned parenthood. Planned parenthood does the greatest number of Abortion in the U S, therefore we pay for abortions.
Taxpayers pay for all kinds of things. Abortion isn't one of them, no matter how many times, ways, or imaginings you employ [it] in your quest to make it so.

PP gets government subsidy. Abortion does not. PP is not the only abortion provider in the country - but it is the only place at which millions of women can avail themselves of medical care involving services OTHER than abortion.

I know it's a hard concept - but unless you begrudge women pap smears, breast exams, and contraception, tax payer support of healthcare is a good thing.

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#211 Jul 15, 2013
not a playa1965 wrote:
<quoted text>Taxpayers pay for all kinds of things. Abortion isn't one of them, no matter how many times, ways, or imaginings you employ [it] in your quest to make it so.
PP gets government subsidy. Abortion does not. PP is not the only abortion provider in the country - but it is the only place at which millions of women can avail themselves of medical care involving services OTHER than abortion.
I know it's a hard concept - but unless you begrudge women pap smears, breast exams, and contraception, tax payer support of healthcare is a good thing.
As horrid as this new Texas law is,
I take great comfort in knowing that
when they close PP clinics across that
VERY large state, women who would other
wise receive birth control or abortion
counciling as well as pre-screening
services, will now get pregnant more
frequently and will have more children.
Many impoverished women are blacks and
hispanics so their numbers will grow
now at an exacerbated rate and Texas
will turn from a red state into a
purple state much sooner than analysts
forecast.

Texass-"Where everything is bigger,
including their stupidity."
Yee haw and yuck yuck.

“Truly Pro-Life”

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#212 Jul 15, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
<quoted text>
As horrid as this new Texas law is,
I take great comfort in knowing that
when they close PP clinics across that
VERY large state, women who would other
wise receive birth control or abortion
counciling as well as pre-screening
services, will now get pregnant more
frequently and will have more children.
Many impoverished women are blacks and
hispanics so their numbers will grow
now at an exacerbated rate and Texas
will turn from a red state into a
purple state much sooner than analysts
forecast.
Texass-"Where everything is bigger,
including their stupidity."
Yee haw and yuck yuck.
Ever growing numbers of disenfranchised women giving birth to cannon fodder against their wills, or risking death on the kitchen tables of those who gladly take advantage of their poverty, affords me no comfort whatsoever.

Regardless of the politics which put them there.

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