The Latino Vote
Posted in the Immigration Reform Forum
#1 Jun 15, 2008
Hispanic Americans (legals, not illegal whiners without a vote) will have a big say this election. The political battle lines have already been drawn except for this group.
Blacks and liberal white guilters will vote for Obama. Blacks will vote for Obama, not so much because they like this guy or his policies, but more for a legacy and bragging rights.
The Middle class that doesn't want to be taxed into oblivion will vote for McCain even though this guy will blow just as much of our tax money on the Halliburton oil wars. The only way this war hero/ex-jock could create any wealth was by marrying into it.
Latinos will be the critical swing vote to focus on during this tight election if they get off their asses and have a high turnout which they tend to in Presidential elections. Both candidates seem increasingly aware that Latinos are the only major undecided factor left. Sensible people want change, but not a change for the worse so most Latinos will probably hold their nose and vote for McCain under the illusion that he will somehow be better.
The reality is the Federal Reserve and the 300 wealthiest families in the world that own this PRIVATE organization run the white house so nothing is going to change. If you want real change call for a disbandment of the Federal Reserve otherwise you will keep having to choose between bought off douche bag A and douche bag B for President, Congress, etc.
If most people knew how much power and influence these families had there would be a huge revolt. But most Americans are too consumed with debt and making a living to have time to care. Most people will soon be aware as our country is entering a depression that will give many people the time they need to start looking for real answers as to how we got into this mess. Hopefully this will lead to real solutions for change. Like getting rid of the Federal Reserve or going back to gold backed currency.
All modern day problems can be traced to the Federal Reserve which has nothing to do with the federal government and is owned by private international banks:
Falling US dollar leading to soaring fuel prices
Industry Bubble after Industry Bubble where the rich get richer
Debt Crisis, both individual and governmental
Falling wages and middle class salaries
Free Trade aka slave wage trade
Payoffs for pork spending
Oh yeah, getting back to the point. Latinos will have a say this election if they get off their asses and finally vote as a block instead of letting themselves get dissed all the time.
#2 Jun 15, 2008
RE-START OPERATION (br,bl) ALIEN WE+BACK !!!!!!!
#3 Jun 15, 2008
Shall we keep it in perspective?
Total population of the United States: 296,410,404
Total White: 237,854,954
Total Black: 37,909,341
Total Asian: 12,687,472
Total American-Indian: 2,863,001
Okay, there's the foundation. Now it is well known that Hispanic/Latinos do not participate in the voting process. It is also well know that those that do are mostly anti-illegal immigration and tend to favor Republicans over Democrats. Not only that, to assume that a small minority of Hispanic/Latino voters will have a say over the majority of White voters is absolutely ludicrous. The Whites will decide the next president of the United States simply based on the numbers. Whites out number Hispanics/Latinos 8 to 1. With your new found knowledge it might be easier for you to keep it in perspective.
#5 Jun 15, 2008
You are wrong if you really believe small voting blocks can't determine an election. Blacks have less of a populace than Latinos but with 92% of them backing Obama they single handedly elected Obama to the Dem Presidential ticket. Latinos or anyone else can do the same thing if they vote as a block too.
This election will be closer than most so every vote will count. Latinos have high turnouts in Presidential elections so I disagree with you that Latinos don’t vote. They can make a dent if they vote as a block. Latinos are unpredictable when it comes to voting; turnout, party affiliation, you name it. Close elections bring everyone out.
Now if you want to solve illegal immigration go after the people letting them in first.
Illegal immigration is a symptom of a greater problem. The problem is politicians no longer answer to voters demands and instead answer to big business that funds their re-election campaigns.
The Federal Reserve can get an administration to follow orders by manipulating the country’s economic performance through interest rate policy. Or an administration can suck up to them and give them everything they want like our President has for the last 8 years at the expense of the middle class. I hope you realize this with your new found knowledge.
We’ll see what the Latino turnout is after this election.
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Since: Dec 06
#7 Jun 15, 2008
Letter to McAmnesty
#9 Jun 15, 2008
Maybe revolution and blood in the streets.
There are secret militias and peripheral groups out there like survivalists, and white supremecists that might engage more middle of the road -suffering from economic hardships, and anger at lower minded cultural encounters.
A friend of mine, an upstanding guy was attacked by 4 illegals, in a park by his home because he was asking which vagrant attacked his daughter on her way to Catholic school.
Big Irish guy took them all on!
I have seen them thell women to suck their d/////cks with a todler holding her hand- I never saw stuff like that before.
Lack of respect for the female!
I know it is not ALL of them, but so WHAT?!
I am not a militant, abut understand hwow the ideas can seem attractive.
#10 Jun 15, 2008
You saw what the media did to Ron Paul. Forget it. He was reduced to sound bites that made him appear crazy when in actuality he had some drastic but good ideas like dismantling the fed that would have really helped our country.
Since the media tycoons are in many cases part of the Fed infrastructure they will keep drowning out any message that is a threat to their power.
Changing the system with votes isn't going to get the job done. The current political system is too entrenched so there will need to be a major revolt and yes maybe some good old fashioned rioting in the streets.
We are almost living in a banana republic where no one is allowed to speak up and there are no differing political parties. When the Dems take office they will turn this country into a true socialist/communist state. They already have legislation in place that will raise payroll taxes in 2010 on middle income families to help fund more government pork.
Albert Einstein said no problem can be solved by the same level of consciousness that created it. How people will revolt when the shit hits the fan after the dollar really collapses remains to be seen. This will probably happen soon after Bush and his chronies leave office and all the crooks have had a chance to hide out and get their lawyers ready to defend them.
Maybe the government will calm us down by spraying chemicals on us designed to break down our immune systems so we're too worn down to revolt. They won’t poison us to death because they still need our taxes but they might try to dumb us down.
Nah, that would be too easy.
If you think the Fed or bought out career politicians are going to put an end to illegal immigration your nuts. This keeps America’s anger and frustration focused on the illegal aliens and not on the people that are letting them in.
#11 Jun 15, 2008
Nice stereotypes. I'm glad you're not a militant! I love all the made up stories that float around on the net. Maybe you're telling the truth and maybe you're just regurgitating some made up bullshit. Most probably the latter.
People like you are the reason that people with the capacity for more than one liners and cut and paste responses stay away from the internet these days. But everyone has right to their own opinion.
#12 Jun 15, 2008
I am NOT wrong. It's simple really. Do the math. It is impossible for you to insist Latinos will carry the vote that elects our next president. Whites out number Latino 8 to 1 and their low voting turn out is typical and recorded in every election for the past 25 years. It simply is fact that Latinos do not participate in the election process and the ones that do vote Republican. For you to even attempt to spread your ridiculous propaganda to dispute this historic fact exposes your lack of knowledge or you are blatantly lying and you are prejudice towards Whites.
#13 Jun 15, 2008
I am white you big dope! LOL.
#14 Jun 15, 2008
My mistake. There is no either - or. You are just ignorant.
#15 Jun 15, 2008
My God are you kidding me? Judging by your response time, you didn't read a thing I wrote about the Fed did you.
You just grumbled to yourself I'm not going to let anyone disagree with me! I'm always right.
Apology accepted. But I still say you're a dope.
Take your problem to the streets, instead of having hot flashes in this chartroom all day. Understand that until you are ready to do this nothing is going to change.
#16 Jun 15, 2008
I saw Barr on Glenn Beck and he comes across as a grumpy old man, not a revolutionary. No excitement means no votes.
#17 Jun 15, 2008
Funny you would choose these tactics of attack over strengthen you point. Maybe this is the reason I might have misunderstood you to come to the conclusion that you are limited and ignorant. I don’t know, just a guess.
Whoa! My gawd it hot in here. LOL
#18 Jun 15, 2008
BTW, I didn't apologize. I admitted to a mistake. Tad different.
Your posts are filled with a lot of "ifs" but ifs don't change reality. I mean if I won the Lotto, I'd be rich. If I was a minority, college would have been easier financially. If I were in menopause, I would have hot flashes. I've got one. If you weren't stupid, I wouldn't be able to throw it back in your face. But I don't live my life on ifs. Children may but educated adults tend to face reality minus the ifs.
I will say it again. Latinos will not be the deciding factor in this upcoming election that holds any voting power to elect our next president, PERIOD. No ifs, ands or buts about it.
#19 Jun 15, 2008
Relax. We'll see how it goes in November.
“Reduce immigration levels”
Since: Dec 06
#20 Jun 16, 2008
Read the comment under the video
CAPS and allied groups have launched an ad campaign to draw attention to the environmental devastation caused by continuing population growth. The ads will appear in several major publications across the nation.
"Loss of open space, increased traffic congestion, never-ending sprawl—these are all consequences of a growing population. Habitat loss due to population growth is, by far, the greatest threat to wildlife," said Diana Hull, CAPS' President.
"Population growth is overwhelming the gains that the United States has made in energy conservation and protection of critical wild lands. Water shortages and energy shortages result, in part, from the increased demands of an increasing population, yet we are ignoring this half of the equation. Americans do not want the increased crowding and resource depletion, but it is being forced on them by politicians," Hull continued.
The United States now has a population of more than 300 million, and projections indicate that it will soar by another 100 million in 30 years. If no action is taken, the U.S. will face a population of at least 600 million people by the end of this century. While other developed nations have stable populations, the population in the U.S. continues to grow like that of India and China.
More than 80 percent of the nation's population growth results from immigration and births to immigrants. In California, immigration accounts for virtually 100 percent of the population growth.
This national ad campaign by CAPS and its partners in America's Leadership Team for Long Range Population-Immigration-Resourc e Planning is part of a long-term plan to raise public awareness of the extent of the nation's current population growth, the consequences of that growth on myriad environmental and social problems, and the policies that produce the growth.
The ad which shows a bulldozer as "one of America's best selling vehicles" can be viewed here (pdf) and on CAPS website, www.CAPSweb.org .
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#21 Jun 17, 2008
Funny, Obama's first cabinet pick today was a Hispanic press secretary. This seems to dismiss you're notion that nobody thinks Latinos will make a difference. On a side note, Clinton didn't do anything for Hispanics so I don't know why any Hispanic would have supported her.
Maybe Hispanics will end up overwhelmingly voting for Obama. The way Republicans and George W Shrub have insulted and marginalized Hispanics for the past 8 years makes political payback all but certain unless Obama really screws up with this group or McCain puts some Hispanics in high profile positions on his cabinet.
The dopey Repubs have been attacking and insulting one of their growing key conservative constituencies lately so I don't know why they would expect Latino votes now that they really need them.
Latinos aren't going to respond to campaign promises anymore about fixing the illegal immigration crisis so they might as well not bring it up. The only way Hispanics will become party line Democrats or Republicans is after they witness one of the party's actually lead immigration legislation that gets enacted and fixes the broken system. The continued immigration failures damage their reputation the most. If someone trips on a banana these days they blame it on a Hispanic. Look at this net forum; it's a public Klan rally.
The last thing this country needs is another incompetent dope in the White House. McCain isn't a Rhodes Scholar academically if you read up on him. And anything that Bush junior touched turned to shit.
W's legacy has been fulfilled as him being nothing more than an elitist crony who further eroded the American middle class and screwed up countless endeavors that didn't involve raising fuel prices. Most people had to use their rebate checks to fill up their gas tanks due to soaring gas prices caused by not demand, but the crushed dollar. Funny how people received this rebate check right as oil hit historic prices. Where else would the rebate check go? Score one more for Cheney, Halliburton, and big oil.
The Iraq war really paid for itself with the oil we extracted from Iraq just like the Bush administration promised. It’s not like they took the oil and sold it to China, India, and Europe for record profits while inflating the price in the U.S. by killing the dollar and making us all broke.
Back to the point. If you say small groups don't make a difference how did Obama win the Democratic ticket?
Let's stop the name calling and discuss this like adults here.
#22 Jun 17, 2008
It's off topic but check this out for a fun time. Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction:
#23 Jun 17, 2008
One more thing. If our leaders spent as much time and effort running the country for the good of the people as they do stealing from it and trying to line their own pockets by throwing the middle class under a bus we'd be in decent shape.
McCain wants oil drilling offshore and all over our country as if that's going to change gas prices. The oil companies will just take the oil like they did in Iraq and sell it to foreigners whose currency has gone through the roof primarily because this Administration and the Fed has devalued our currency so much.
High fuel prices in this country are not being caused by a fuel shortage as the media would have you believe. They are being caused by inflation due to the Fed killing the dollar.
If you want lower oil and food prices demand that our government and the Fed strengthens the dollar. We are trying to buy oil with monopoly money and competing against numerous other stronger currencies around the world that's why it is now so expensive.
Checkout McCain's academic record and apparent propensity for being stubborn to see what our country can look forward to if he's elected. It looks like another George Dumbya in the making.
How did our country get to a point where we now casually sit back and watch our country get sold out from under our feet without any resistance? Who would vote for either of these two candidates if there were actually a decent alternative?
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