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Obama takes on power plant emissions as part of climate plan

There are 1518 comments on the Reuters story from Jun 25, 2013, titled Obama takes on power plant emissions as part of climate plan. In it, Reuters reports that:

President Barack Obama will attempt to kick-start a global climate agenda on Tuesday with proposals including a plan to limit carbon emissions from existing U.S. power plants that is sure to face opposition from the coal industry, many business groups and Republican lawmakers.

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#1680 Sep 10, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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If you're trying to attract hummingbirds, put up a hummingbird feeder- NOT a regular seed feeder.
I have my feeders hanging from the soffit right outside my kitchen window. That way I can watch the hummers sit and feed.
And YES, get a hummingbird feeder where they can sit while feeding.
And NO, do NOT use commercial hummingbird nectar- it's full of unnecessary red dyes which some studies show could be toxic to them. You don't need red nectar, just some red on the feeder will attract them. Boil up a mixture of sugar water (google the recipe- ignore any instruction for red dye), let it cool and put it in the feeder; refrigerate the remainder. Change if the liquid gets cloudy or once a week.
There are also scores of flowers that attract hummers. A butterfly bush in the fall is a joy to behold when it is attracting both butterflies and hummers.

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1681 Sep 10, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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Not "willing"; coerced.
How were you "coerced"? Who forced you to accept the $10k and allow a wind turbine to be built on your property.

Bribed might be a more apt term, since we've established you can be bought off for a mere $10k.

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Tawas City, Michigan

#1682 Sep 10, 2013
-Dont Panic- wrote:
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I don't know about the birds, but I have noticed that the squirrels around here don't build nests in the walnut trees or the pecan trees. They have nests in the elms and hack berries but not the nut trees. I just figured they didn't build nests in the nut trees because of all the other squirrels that come to forage. I've seen them fighting in the pecan trees but never nesting.
I have seen birds nests in the pecan trees. They hang down like a bulls ball sack. Don't know what kind of birds they are though.
If you want a good look at your Baltimore Orioles, try cutting an orange in half and nailing it to a tree you can see from your window.

I occasionally get orioles trying to feed at my hummingbird feeder; they can't get their big beaks in the hole, but it's fun watching them try!

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Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#1683 Sep 10, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
If you're trying to attract hummingbirds, put up a hummingbird feeder- NOT a regular seed feeder.
I have my feeders hanging from the soffit right outside my kitchen window. That way I can watch the hummers sit and feed.
And YES, get a hummingbird feeder where they can sit while feeding.
And NO, do NOT use commercial hummingbird nectar- it's full of unnecessary red dyes which some studies show could be toxic to them. You don't need red nectar, just some red on the feeder will attract them. Boil up a mixture of sugar water (google the recipe- ignore any instruction for red dye), let it cool and put it in the feeder; refrigerate the remainder. Change if the liquid gets cloudy or once a week.
My hummingbirds love evening primrose. It's just as yellow as can be. Stems are green. Yes, red will attract hummers, but so will just about anything that contains nectar.

I concur about not using ANY red dye, or ANY chemicals at all. I've read where people say to put oil on feeding ports to keep bees away. etc... NO HOW, NO WAY would I EVER recommend anything like that! Traces can work their way into the sugar water. Better to not feed hummers at all, than to risk their life or their health.

The only thing I disagree with is the frequency in which to change their sugar water. When it's 80+ degrees, I will change it every third day at a minimum. Even more frequent when it reaches 90. Mold grows quickly and bacteria doubles every 15 minutes. Hummingbirds are better off finding natural foods than risking getting bad sugar water.

The ratio is 4/1
Boil four cups of water, add one cup of sugar, let it dissolve and refrigerate it.

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Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#1684 Sep 10, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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I have to admit that's pretty cool. Whenever I use my sprinkler or hose the hummers come around to fly through the stream.
I need to get one of those fountains!
Water is my favorite thing to attract ALL kinds of wildlife. Birds that don't come to feeders will always come to water.

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Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#1685 Sep 10, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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If you want a good look at your Baltimore Orioles, try cutting an orange in half and nailing it to a tree you can see from your window.
I occasionally get orioles trying to feed at my hummingbird feeder; they can't get their big beaks in the hole, but it's fun watching them try!
I watched an oriole pry the yellow feeding port off and toss it on the ground. Then he just stuck his bill in the hole and drank.

What they like better than oranges is grape jelly. They only eat oranges here in the spring and early summer, but the jelly is a hit all summer long. I offer it three small Tupperware containers in fly thru feeders with baffles, or someplace where raccoons can't get to it. House Finches, Gray Catbirds, Rose-breasted Grosbeaks and Red-bellied Woodpeckers also love it. I usually go through 65+ pounds of jelly each summer. It's fun watching the orioles bring their young to the jelly feeders!

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Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#1686 Sep 10, 2013
I have a special orange tree that I decorate in early spring just a few days before the orioles arrive. It's simply a dead branch about eight-ten feet tall, with multiple side branches, broken twigs, etc... I plant it in the ground the way I would plant any tree and attach orange halves to it in various places, high enough to where cats can't leap up at the birds. I cut the orange in half and put a small hole someplace on the rind. I then just push the orange half securely onto one of those broken twigs.

Every now and then I'll see one of my oranges running up a tree in the mouth of a Red Squirrel. LOL
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#1687 Sep 10, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
If you're trying to attract hummingbirds, put up a hummingbird feeder- NOT a regular seed feeder.
I have my feeders hanging from the soffit right outside my kitchen window. That way I can watch the hummers sit and feed.
And YES, get a hummingbird feeder where they can sit while feeding.
And NO, do NOT use commercial hummingbird nectar- it's full of unnecessary red dyes which some studies show could be toxic to them. You don't need red nectar, just some red on the feeder will attract them. Boil up a mixture of sugar water (google the recipe- ignore any instruction for red dye), let it cool and put it in the feeder; refrigerate the remainder. Change if the liquid gets cloudy or once a week.
The Audubon folks at the Hummingbird Festival in Holly Springs last week suggest a one-to-one mix of sugar and water.

They also said boil the water beforehand and don't hang it in the sun. That keeps it from getting cloudy so quickly.
PHD

Thornton, TX

#1688 Sep 10, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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Have you NO sense of humor???!!! Jeeeez. I would buy my own lunch. I would have probably picked up your tab too. That's just the way I am.
I have no idea what expletives you're referring to.
Because you are mean.....lunch is off.
Do have a sense of humor I've been with my significant other for over 40 yrs. I never agreed to have lunch with you so the self flattery is getting you again in a bad position

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Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#1689 Sep 10, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
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The Audubon folks at the Hummingbird Festival in Holly Springs last week suggest a one-to-one mix of sugar and water.
They also said boil the water beforehand and don't hang it in the sun. That keeps it from getting cloudy so quickly.
That is ALOT of sugar!
Are you sure they weren't talking about a separate feeder for bees with that ratio?(to help keep the bees away from the hummingbird feeder)
I've used a 4/1 ratio forever for hummers and it works just fine. It is the equivalent of flower nectar. I would hate to contribute to diabetes or high blood sugar in a tiny little bird.

My advice is stick with the tried and true. If unsure, then don't feed them at all.

Keep the sugar water fresh, the feeder clean and rinse extremely well after washing to remove ALL soap residue.

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Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#1690 Sep 10, 2013
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>Do have a sense of humor I've been with my significant other for over 40 yrs. I never agreed to have lunch with you so the self flattery is getting you again in a bad position
Whatever.

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#1691 Sep 10, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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Baltimore Orioles
VERY intricate nests, highly skilled, intelligent birds!!
For years a pair nested in an Elm across the street. Same tree every year. Then one year they arrived and started building their nest again. The next day, I noticed they had halted nest building and the strands of dried grasses just hung there unfinished. I didn't know why they stopped. I knew the pair was still around because I was able to locate them by their song. They had moved to a different tree. About two weeks later I noticed a dead branch on the original elm. Within a month the tree was dead- dead as a doornail- Dutch Elm Disease. The birds knew it and made the conscious decision to move to a healthy tree.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =MrlA52UEEcIXX
Cool! Now I know what builds those nests. I've seen those orange birds flying around but didn't know they built those nests.

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#1692 Sep 10, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
If you're trying to attract hummingbirds, put up a hummingbird feeder- NOT a regular seed feeder.
I have my feeders hanging from the soffit right outside my kitchen window. That way I can watch the hummers sit and feed.
And YES, get a hummingbird feeder where they can sit while feeding.
And NO, do NOT use commercial hummingbird nectar- it's full of unnecessary red dyes which some studies show could be toxic to them. You don't need red nectar, just some red on the feeder will attract them. Boil up a mixture of sugar water (google the recipe- ignore any instruction for red dye), let it cool and put it in the feeder; refrigerate the remainder. Change if the liquid gets cloudy or once a week.
I'm not really good at keeping a feeder filled. I think I will plant some flowers instead. The flower beds are over by the koi pond away from the cars so the birds will not poop on my cars as bad if they eat over there by the flower beds.
PHD

Thornton, TX

#1693 Sep 10, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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Whatever.
That should be your new position "whatever".

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1694 Sep 10, 2013
-Dont Panic- wrote:
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I'm not really good at keeping a feeder filled. I think I will plant some flowers instead. The flower beds are over by the koi pond away from the cars so the birds will not poop on my cars as bad if they eat over there by the flower beds.
That's why putting the feeder right outside your window where you can't forget about it is a good idea.

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Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#1695 Sep 10, 2013
-Dont Panic- wrote:
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I'm not really good at keeping a feeder filled. I think I will plant some flowers instead. The flower beds are over by the koi pond away from the cars so the birds will not poop on my cars as bad if they eat over there by the flower beds.
Just a side note; If you are in West Kansas, you could also get Bullocks Orioles. They have a black stripe through the eye instead of the all black face of the Baltimore. Sometimes they breed with Baltimore in the western part of their range.

You will also get Orchard Orioles. The adult males are a dark burnt orange on the belly and breast instead of bright orange. An immature male Orchard will be yellow with a black throat patch. The female Orchard Oriole will be all yellow.

You can distinguish them from the "yellow-colored" warblers by the long slender (blackbird-like) bill and larger size.

If you have flowers by the pond, be warned, frogs will eat hummingbirds, as will Praying Mantis.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#1696 Sep 10, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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That is ALOT of sugar!
Are you sure they weren't talking about a separate feeder for bees with that ratio?(to help keep the bees away from the hummingbird feeder)
I've used a 4/1 ratio forever for hummers and it works just fine. It is the equivalent of flower nectar. I would hate to contribute to diabetes or high blood sugar in a tiny little bird.
My advice is stick with the tried and true. If unsure, then don't feed them at all.
Keep the sugar water fresh, the feeder clean and rinse extremely well after washing to remove ALL soap residue.
Audubon Society. Hummingbird Festival. I assume these people are pretty much authorities on the subject.

They were correcting a guy who was mixing a 3-sugar/1-water solution.

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SE Michigan

#1697 Sep 10, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
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Audubon Society. Hummingbird Festival. I assume these people are pretty much authorities on the subject.
They were correcting a guy who was mixing a 3-sugar/1-water solution.
Horse Dung!

I've been a member of the Audubon Society, the American Bird Conservancy, American Birding Association, The Nature Conservancy, Cornel Lab of Ornithology, Ducks Unlimited and the National Wildlife Federation.

At one time I subscribed to Wildbird, Bird Watchers Digest, American Bird, Birdscope, Birders World, Birding, Birds and Blooms, Winging It, Bird Conservation and Bird Calls. I get only two of these now, because I don't have the time to read that much anymore.

I've been to MANY hummingbird, hawk, bluebird and crane festivals in several states and one Birding Symposium.

I've given bird talks to school children.

I was a volunteer hawk counter at a major hawk migration site for an entire season. I've done EVERY spring migration count, Christmas bird count and big sit (that's the name of a fall count) for many years.

I've been published (letters, photos and an article) in several national bird magazines.

I've been feeding, watching, studying, photographing, monitoring and writing about birds and their migrations and nests for many years...not only in my yard, but all across the state and many regions of the country.

I don't give a crap what some Audubon guy at a festival says!

4/1 is a good and proper ratio to imitate flower nectar. FACT

http://www.rubythroat.org/FeedingHintsMain.ht...
PHD

North Richland Hills, TX

#1698 Sep 11, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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Horse Dung!
I've been a member of the Audubon Society, the American Bird Conservancy, American Birding Association, The Nature Conservancy, Cornel Lab of Ornithology, Ducks Unlimited and the National Wildlife Federation.
At one time I subscribed to Wildbird, Bird Watchers Digest, American Bird, Birdscope, Birders World, Birding, Birds and Blooms, Winging It, Bird Conservation and Bird Calls. I get only two of these now, because I don't have the time to read that much anymore.
I've been to MANY hummingbird, hawk, bluebird and crane festivals in several states and one Birding Symposium.
I've given bird talks to school children.
I was a volunteer hawk counter at a major hawk migration site for an entire season. I've done EVERY spring migration count, Christmas bird count and big sit (that's the name of a fall count) for many years.
I've been published (letters, photos and an article) in several national bird magazines.
I've been feeding, watching, studying, photographing, monitoring and writing about birds and their migrations and nests for many years...not only in my yard, but all across the state and many regions of the country.
I don't give a crap what some Audubon guy at a festival says!
4/1 is a good and proper ratio to imitate flower nectar. FACT
http://www.rubythroat.org/FeedingHintsMain.ht...
Whatever!!
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#1699 Sep 11, 2013
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>Whatever!!
He is still a one dimensional idiot and his 'memberships' don't change that, even if you could trust that he is telling the truth.

The evidence is that he is a troll, using 'birds' to get sympathy for a denial of evidence. And now trying to gain the upper hand with 'argument by authority' which isn't based on actual research but on clained 'memberships'. If true, they just point out his fanaticism, while his rejection of actual debate point out his lack of credibility.

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