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Obama takes on power plant emissions as part of climate plan

There are 1518 comments on the Reuters story from Jun 25, 2013, titled Obama takes on power plant emissions as part of climate plan. In it, Reuters reports that:

President Barack Obama will attempt to kick-start a global climate agenda on Tuesday with proposals including a plan to limit carbon emissions from existing U.S. power plants that is sure to face opposition from the coal industry, many business groups and Republican lawmakers.

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WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#1376 Sep 4, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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No, drilling IS the problem, because it can't be done safely 100% of the time.
LOL! Walking across the street can't be done safely 100 percent of the time. Drill baby drill!
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#1377 Sep 4, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Sure you would, because you have an anti-wind turbine agenda. If it wasn't a few birdies dying, it would be the "noise" generated, or the "view" being obstructed, or some other nonsense.
Not me. I like OIL! We are an OIL driven nation! We will always use OIL in your lifetime! Drill baby drill!
AnswersRus

Riverton, WY

#1378 Sep 4, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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It's far more than just "some" for an industry that claims to be green.
If it was just "some," I wouldn't be adamently speaking out against it.
Are you sure about that?
Just asking.
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#1380 Sep 4, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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No, they're not okay at all, which is why I support moving as quickly as possible to all electric vehicles.
Electric vehicles? LMAO! I can see an electric Semi hauling freight across the United States! How do you propose electricity move something this big and heavy? How about electric vehicles in extreme cold temperatures at high elevations? You don't think things out well do you!
AnswersRus

Riverton, WY

#1381 Sep 4, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Sure you would, because you have an anti-wind turbine agenda. If it wasn't a few birdies dying, it would be the "noise" generated, or the "view" being obstructed, or some other nonsense.
No it wouldn't. She is all about the birds. I heard she's a bird brain and has a certificate to prove it too.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Level 1

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#1382 Sep 4, 2013
AnswersRus wrote:
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Are you sure about that?
Just asking.
If I wasn't 100% sure that tall structures.... ALL tall structures....kill birds- sometimes by the thousands in one single evening....I wouldn't spend so much precious time talking about this sh** and trying to make people see what's happening before it's too late.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Level 1

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#1383 Sep 4, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>Electric vehicles? LMAO! I can see an electric Semi hauling freight across the United States! How do you propose electricity move something this big and heavy? How about electric vehicles in extreme cold temperatures at high elevations? You don't think things out well do you!
If wind was so great, they would just put a big old turbine on the back of their car and make the wind push 'em.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Level 1

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#1384 Sep 4, 2013
AnswersRus wrote:
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No it wouldn't. She is all about the birds. I heard she's a bird brain and has a certificate to prove it too.
LOL

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Level 1

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#1385 Sep 4, 2013
Someday I'll get around to posting that Bird Brain Certificate on my website. I have too much going on right now. I consider it one of my greatest achievements.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

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Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#1386 Sep 4, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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If I wasn't 100% sure that tall structures.... ALL tall structures....kill birds- sometimes by the thousands in one single evening....I wouldn't spend so much precious time talking about this sh** and trying to make people see what's happening before it's too late.
To be clear, not EVERY tall structure has killed birds that I'm aware of, but the potential is there to do significant harm as more and more are built, as has been proven in the past by multiple different mass casualties at various towers. Some not even located along a major migratory route.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#1387 Sep 4, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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I'm "such a radical" because I believe making my house payment and property tax payment gives me the right to make the decisions on what is on my property???? Nobody dictates to me what I can have in my yard, unless it is a threat to their safety. Now I know the mentality of what I'm dealing with here. I guess you should also have a say in what I eat and when I defecate.
If your neighbor plants any conifers, you'll be dead and gone before they reach the height of the mans trees in CA. Stop fretting. Maybe move away from other people, so you don't infringe on their right to have large trees in their yard.
God, I'm glad I live in the country. My next door neighbors are nature lovers too. Like me, they use no pesticides, no herbicides, they welcome all birds and animals and love trees. In fact, I had to ask them if they minded if I cut some of their trees that were growing along the fence line this spring. They were close to my house and getting to the point of being too big to cut without help from a tree company. They didn't like it, but they realized that the trees would soon be a hazard for us,(the foundation as well as falling on our bedroom) so they not only agreed, but helped us cut them.
I guaranteed them we would cut the trees BEFORE the birds arrived and started building their nests.
Suburbs of Toledo?

My neighbor's land is an undeveloped tract, also cleared by the tornado. There are no houses close to me.

Pine seedlings can grow three feet a year.

Back to the books, little girl.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#1388 Sep 4, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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You're doing construction without a 10 foot ladder? Really? A quick trip up the ladder and you could hold your pinky finger underneath a hummingbird as it hovers along the window trying to get through the glass. They will grab onto to it and you could walk them down. They are quite tame really. I've done this before at bird blinds in Texas that have glass in them, as well as my own garage. Stand at a hummer feeder and hold your finger out by the port hole. They will quickly alight and feed without a care in the world about what you are.
"You seem to be very far removed from reality."
Not at all. You just seem to not care about the hazards you create for our feathered friends. It is stuff like this, multiplied by about fifty million people, that is causing such drastic declines in our native birds.
Trapped birds are a simple fix, most of the time.
When I arrived to work today, I found a dead Chimney Swift laying on the floor in a very large room. It got stuck in the building Friday. A coworker told the night worker how to get the bird out safely, but apparently, the guy had only the weekend on his mind. The night worker knew it was there, but locked up and went home for the long weekend. Even if he didn't want to take his time to help the bird, he could have made a simple call to the FWS or the DNR, or some Audubon member, etc.. Even the boss! He didn't. Another example of a death that didn't have to happen. Yes, Chimney Swift numbers are also declining, though they are still quite common and abundant. That might not always be the case.
My neighbor had a hummingbird get in his garage and it broke its bill on the window.
I once had a Rose-breasted Grosbeak get trapped in my garage. It kept hitting his head on the ceiling in an attempt to escape. I finally was able to lure it down, but not before it left blood splotches everywhere on the ceiling. Since that day, I never leave my garage door open unattended. Simple things can make a big difference.
I see open garage doors all the time. Makes me wonder how many needless deaths are occurring and how many people alter their behavior....even just a little bit.
I'll try that finger trick next time I trap a bird, St. Francis.

I used to have a blue and gold macaw. He was too big for my finger, so he sat on my shoulder.

AARRR, matey!
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#1389 Sep 4, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Do you have any proof the manufacture and maintenance of solar panels and wind turbines doesn't cause more pollution than fossil fuel? We already know, green energy is more expensive and less efficient; the hidden costs to renewable energy are greater than the hidden costs of fossil fuel.
So says the professional LIAR.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#1390 Sep 4, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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"You've obviously never been through a disaster."
Straight line winds came through here a few years ago. Knocked down three giant spruces and a pine in my yard, as well as lots of trees that line the dirt road I live on. One tree grazed my roof and did some damage to the gutter. Yeah, I had other things to worry about too, but the first thing I did was check near and under the trees as best I could for little baby birds that might have fallen from nests.
I feel your pain. A little.

Try losing your house, being displaced for three months, and living in a FEMA trailer for a while. Then you can say you've been in a disaster.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#1391 Sep 4, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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I have no clue what your numbers represent.
Again, how much damage was done by earthquakes to the pipelines? How much oil leaked?
You got the part about not having a clue right. I guess the reference to spills in LA didn't clue you in.

I haven't looked at earthquake damage. They have enough leaks without Mother Nature's help.
Level 1

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#1392 Sep 4, 2013
Obama is mentally ill.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#1393 Sep 4, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
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Our neo-tropical migrant songbirds (the ones I've been referring to) are not landing on the water in the Gulf. Like I said, it's only the big species that that you can easily see you seem concerned about.
I thought all birds were precious to you.

So to hell with the gulls, pelicans, cranes, and egrets, huh?

You don't know your birds all that well. If you want small, try the terns, killdeer, and plovers. Even some egrets and gulls are not that big.

Has to be a songbird, huh? I guess a laughing gull doesn't entertain you.

You're a hypocrite; selective and ignorant, too.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Level 1

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#1394 Sep 4, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
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Suburbs of Toledo?
My neighbor's land is an undeveloped tract, also cleared by the tornado. There are no houses close to me.
Pine seedlings can grow three feet a year.
Back to the books, little girl.
All I'll say is somewhere between Toledo and Sheeple.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Level 1

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#1395 Sep 4, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
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I'll try that finger trick next time I trap a bird, St. Francis.
I used to have a blue and gold macaw. He was too big for my finger, so he sat on my shoulder.
AARRR, matey!
Not just any bird; a hummingbird.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Level 1

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#1396 Sep 4, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
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I feel your pain. A little.
Try losing your house, being displaced for three months, and living in a FEMA trailer for a while. Then you can say you've been in a disaster.
I wouldn't stay in a FEMA trailer. They make people sick because of the formaldehyde.

Formaldehyde is a widely used chemical found in plastics, insulation and furniture. It's also used in disinfectants, adhesive materials and in construction, including the construction of travel trailers. It is a known carcinogen.

But you still think fossil fuel is the problem.

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