Dallas school district committed systemic Social Security fraud: Hot Air Blog

[whitney311]

Rebel wrote:

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That airhead spouting off nonsense is nothing more than a modern day slavemaster, content to keep her slaves stupid and under her control, not to mention low wages.
She does not take into consideration the fact that people must speak English to become a citizen, or the fact that most states have it as their official language. She does not mind spending taxpayer money to print everything in the slaves' language. Hell, she probably lives off taxpayer money with her illegal boyfriend and their love child.

Yes, you are right. I do believe we should spend tax money to print government documents in multiple languages, as many languages are represented in our country. That is money that should be spent, versus money being spent on a $500 office chair, or some other overpriced, un-needed good.

And, if you want to ban the "slaves" language, it seems to me that you want them to struggle to communicate through a language they may or may not be able to express themselves in. If they had someone they could talk to easily, they might be less frightened to come forward with any issue they may be experiencing.

But the point you are obviously missing is the fact I believe its a duty on both groups. As a welcoming America, we should try our best to accept people into our country, and learn about them, as well as they should learn about us. If one person speaks english and knows a little spanish, and the other speaks spanish but knows a little english, the chances for them to communicate are much greater than just one knowing a little of the others. There are obvious benefits to both sides by learning each others language, and it should be seen as a beneficial opportunity to learn a language, versus the often touted opinion that we are being forced to change.

[Rebel]

whitney311 wrote:

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Not everyone living in America who speaks another language wants to become a citizen, therefore, we will always have populations of non english speaking people living in this country who are not illegal. Do you recommend we just keep forcing English on them, without doing anything to prepare children or the people educating them, to help them communicate as well?

Now that you mention it, yes. If they are only visiting, that is one thing. If they wish to live and work here and take advantage of all this country offers, yes, I think they should be forced to learn English or provide themselves with a translator at their own cost, not at the cost of the taxpayers.

whitney311 wrote:

The obvious benefit of students knowing a second language are known, and your continued rejection of it baffles me.

I do not know where I said I reject anyone CHOOSING to learn another language. I had my grandma teach me Polish growing up and I took French in school. Nothing wrong with a choice, but to force ANYONE here to learn another language when working within a company or school IN THIS COUNTRY and not conducting international business is wrong.

whitney311 wrote:

Your blatantly ignorant insinuation that I do not want immigrants to learn english so they can continue to be used as an underpaid workforce is laughable, considering its based all completely in your mind, and has ZERO merit whatsoever. Nice try troll, you only made yourself look stupid.
And just a point Einstein, its not legal immigrants that usual have a problem with being underpaid. Its the illegals, who cannot report, and would not report, illegally low wages for the obvious reasons of deportation.

I never said it was legal immigrants. I mentioned slavemaster (you) and illegal aliens (your workers).

And, if you think these people they hired were legally here to WORK, you are off your rocker. When an immigrant comes here legally for work, they have permission to do so and are thus issued a social security number. Whether these teachers were here legally or not is beyond me, but I do know they did not have the authority to work, and generally the others are either students or visitors, and their visas are not "forever" visas. Students can get permission to work AT SCHOOL if they provide proof of employment offer, and they then get a social security number so they can start said job. Visitors do not have the permission to work, and they cannot start a job (legally) until they file to get permission to work, and then it had better be proven that a citizen is not available for said job.

This whole school district thing stinks to the high heavens, and the guy who started all this illegal activity is now being called upon to be fired. He should also be charged and jailed for the felonious use of social security numbers, as well as whatever misdemeanors he was committing.

[Gab]

whitney311 wrote:

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Yes, you are right. I do believe we should spend tax money to print government documents in multiple languages, as many languages are represented in our country. That is money that should be spent, versus money being spent on a $500 office chair, or some other overpriced, un-needed good.
And, if you want to ban the "slaves" language, it seems to me that you want them to struggle to communicate through a language they may or may not be able to express themselves in. If they had someone they could talk to easily, they might be less frightened to come forward with any issue they may be experiencing.
But the point you are obviously missing is the fact I believe its a duty on both groups. As a welcoming America, we should try our best to accept people into our country, and learn about them, as well as they should learn about us. If one person speaks english and knows a little spanish, and the other speaks spanish but knows a little english, the chances for them to communicate are much greater than just one knowing a little of the others. There are obvious benefits to both sides by learning each others language, and it should be seen as a beneficial opportunity to learn a language, versus the often touted opinion that we are being forced to change.

Sneak into Mexico and start waving an American flag in front of government officials demanding they speak English and demand free education,free housing,free food,free health care,free utilities and force you're culture on them and if they don't comply tell them you will take it by force.
How do you think that will go?

[Rebel]

whitney311 wrote:

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Yes, you are right. I do believe we should spend tax money to print government documents in multiple languages, as many languages are represented in our country. That is money that should be spent, versus money being spent on a $500 office chair, or some other overpriced, un-needed good.

Guess you do not work long hours at an office job or have back problems. Sometimes those expensive office chairs are a necessity to avoid major pain and/or more surgery.

There are way too many languages spoken here to print things in all. This is why one language makes much more sense. We have better things to spend money on than lazy people who think it is so important to live here, but not important enough to learn the language. When something is that important to me, I do everything I can to obtain it, and if that meant another language, I would do it. These people just demand to be catered to.

whitney311 wrote:

[QUOTE who="whitney311"]And , if you want to ban the "slaves" language, it seems to me that you want them to struggle to communicate through a language they may or may not be able to express themselves in.

Nope. I want them to learn the language. Hire their own interpreter, take classes before they come here, whatever it takes to learn the language -- it is the responsible and considerate thing to do. I would not move to another country and expect anyone to cater to me in English. That is rude and insulting to the country you claim to want to be part of. Obviously they do not really want to be part of this country.

whitney311 wrote:

If they had someone they could talk to easily, they might be less frightened to come forward with any issue they may be experiencing.
But the point you are obviously missing is the fact I believe its a duty on both groups. As a welcoming America, we should try our best to accept people into our country, and learn about them, as well as they should learn about us. If one person speaks english and knows a little spanish, and the other speaks spanish but knows a little english, the chances for them to communicate are much greater than just one knowing a little of the others. There are obvious benefits to both sides by learning each others language, and it should be seen as a beneficial opportunity to learn a language, versus the often touted opinion that we are being forced to change.

They can learn before they come or they can -- AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE -- hire a damn interpreter and then they can talk to that person and feel comfortable all they like. To expect us to cater to them is ridiculous.

[Rebel]

Gab wrote:

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Sneak into Mexico and start waving an American flag in front of government officials demanding they speak English and demand free education,free housing,free food,free health care,free utilities and force you're culture on them and if they don't comply tell them you will take it by force.
How do you think that will go?

That smile would be wiped right off her clueless face, and she would be lucky to make it out alive, much less make it out alive *and* not in need of major reconstructive (plastic) surgery.

Why is it okay for all other countries to have an identity and expect immigrants to conform, except for us??

[Gab]

Rebel wrote:

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That smile would be wiped right off her clueless face, and she would be lucky to make it out alive, much less make it out alive *and* not in need of major reconstructive (plastic) surgery.
Why is it okay for all other countries to have an identity and expect immigrants to conform, except for us??

Liberalism.
The further left we go the more we hate ourselves,I guess.
Wait till 1/21/09.
Were gonna amp it up a few notches.

[whitney311]

Rebel wrote:

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That smile would be wiped right off her clueless face, and she would be lucky to make it out alive, much less make it out alive *and* not in need of major reconstructive (plastic) surgery.
Why is it okay for all other countries to have an identity and expect immigrants to conform, except for us??

Since absolutely ZERO of your posts have any points of interests, I thought I would just skip responding to your insult-filled, clueless rants(like your whole tirade on illegals vs. nonillegals, and the assumption that I was confused, when really, YOU just can't read), and just point out how stupid that last sentence is.

Most countries where people immigrate to in large numbers do have to deal with this population, and most do not do it by forcing a language on them, or not printing documents in other languages. Take Holland for example, or Canada.

And you can call me a slave master, or any other ridiculous image you concoct in that "rebel" brain of yours, but, when the facts come down to it, you are little more than a social nazi who wishes all lived up to your "american dream" of an english only america.

[Gab]

whitney311 wrote:

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Since absolutely ZERO of your posts have any points of interests, I thought I would just skip responding to your insult-filled, clueless rants(like your whole tirade on illegals vs. nonillegals, and the assumption that I was confused, when really, YOU just can't read), and just point out how stupid that last sentence is.
Most countries where people immigrate to in large numbers do have to deal with this population, and most do not do it by forcing a language on them, or not printing documents in other languages. Take Holland for example, or Canada.
And you can call me a slave master, or any other ridiculous image you concoct in that "rebel" brain of yours, but, when the facts come down to it, you are little more than a social nazi who wishes all lived up to your "american dream" of an english only america.

Any chance you could address post #23?
Thanx.

[Deepthoughts]

Lets face it nothing will become of it. Our government only fixes things that either lines there pockets or strokes their ego. For something to actually happen it will take something drastic and horrible (as in another 9-11) before they will even address it. It will only take something like that before all the people will actually stand up and demand it.

[Valhalla Voice]

In NY there is no controlling legal authority over seeing school districts. Just in my tiny district Valhalla with only 1,500 kids k-12 I have uncovered tax fraud, pension fraud, illegal landfill deals, illegal leases and just plain old hand in the till fraud, had the State Comptroller confirm each in two seperate audits and can't get the District Attorney or State Comptroller interested as each is firmly tucked in the pocket of the teacher's union. www.valhallavoice.com