Seven facts about illegal immigrants in the United States

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A line of legal immigrants wait outside the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights in Los Angeles offices Wednesday, Aug.

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#1 Jan 15, 2013
The only fact that matters is that Mexican laws are tougher on illeals than ours, yet they scream the loudest when we rightfully step on a mexican illegals' toes.

http://factreal.wordpress.com/2010/05/08/mexi...

This is another fact that goes unnoticed:

"As to emigration, in agreement with the Constitution (and in spite of what some people may claim or imply), while having the right to travel and migrate, Mexican citizens are not entitled to cross international borders – outgoing or incoming – without valid documents. Meaning official authorizations and travel documents that must be obtained beforehand, once the requirements and conditions established by the Mexican government are met, approvals that are also in keeping with Mexico’s international accords."

http://www.mexidata.info/id1762.html

Hmmm...

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#2 Jan 15, 2013
not every immigrant is from Mexico and not every one came here ilegally,there is many different cases and situations and some people opening their mouth toair their nonsense just proves their ignorance on the matter...
teddyr4me wrote:
The only fact that matters is that Mexican laws are tougher on illeals than ours, yet they scream the loudest when we rightfully step on a mexican illegals' toes.
http://factreal.wordpress.com/2010/05/08/mexi...
This is another fact that goes unnoticed:
"As to emigration, in agreement with the Constitution (and in spite of what some people may claim or imply), while having the right to travel and migrate, Mexican citizens are not entitled to cross international borders – outgoing or incoming – without valid documents. Meaning official authorizations and travel documents that must be obtained beforehand, once the requirements and conditions established by the Mexican government are met, approvals that are also in keeping with Mexico’s international accords."
http://www.mexidata.info/id1762.html
Hmmm...

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#3 Jan 15, 2013
It started in 1492 wrote:
not every immigrant is from Mexico and not every one came here ilegally,there is many different cases and situations and some people opening their mouth toair their nonsense just proves their ignorance on the matter...<quoted text>
If you looked at the slide show, what did you see? We all know that not all illegals are Mexicans, but we do know that more than half of them come from Mexico. It matters not what their resaon is for being here, but it does matter that they don't have permission to be here. Rico, why do you keep trying to trip my trigger? You ought to know better by now.
Magadala

Brownsville, OR

#4 Jan 15, 2013
It started in 1492 wrote:
not every immigrant is from Mexico and not every one came here ilegally,there is many different cases and situations and some people opening their mouth toair their nonsense just proves their ignorance on the matter...<quoted text>
Take a stab at it! Whaduyyu say, about 70% of illegal aliens in America are mexican...deal with it!!!! Don't like it? Leave! Leave anyway!
DWG

Everett, MA

#5 Jan 15, 2013
It started in 1492 wrote:
not every immigrant is from Mexico and not every one came here ilegally,there is many different cases and situations and some people opening their mouth toair their nonsense just proves their ignorance on the matter...<quoted text>
Illegal are those people captured by border patrol or immigration enforcement.

Those 11 million people inside USA, are fruit of broken system in USA ( undocumented ).... nobody is illegal without previ supervision.

USA have facilitated a growth of illegal entry and legal entry all over these years about 27 years (1986-2013) and we have many reason:

1- cartel of drugue smugglers

2- enrich Incarceration owners.

3- cheap wages for employers

4- scapegoat ( undocumented) for election days

5- walmart enrichement.

6- more federal money for schools and hospitals local.

7- ITIN ( tax ID indentification ), for everyone who not have Social Security to require their federal and local tax return.

Note: like we saw, by ITIN supervision they never will be illegal.

Thanks
DWG
ronnie

Brigham City, UT

#6 Jan 15, 2013
It started in 1492 wrote:
not every immigrant is from Mexico and not every one came here ilegally,there is many different cases and situations and some people opening their mouth toair their nonsense just proves their ignorance on the matter...<quoted text>
I just watched a report on CNN about illegal alien Asians being harbored in Birthing homes in California. Once the Asians drop the anchor, they fly back to China or where ever. Looks like the Asians took lessons from Mexicans and started anchoring too. Pretty soon those Asians will out number you Mexicans and then what will ya do about your reconquista??? Ha

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#7 Jan 15, 2013
The most important fact about illegal immigrants is the fact that they are illegal.
That fact alone trumps all other "facts". That is the only "fact" that matters. Illegals need to be treated with zero tolerance.

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#8 Jan 16, 2013
They might be illegal here but they are so deeply integrated in the society that deporting them would trigger a collapse of US economy.

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#9 Jan 16, 2013
Ambro2000 wrote:
They might be illegal here but they are so deeply integrated in the society that deporting them would trigger a collapse of US economy.
NO, but what would happen is that there would be unskilled jobs available for unskilled Americans, the same people who used to work those jobs. The employers would be forced to pay a fair wage and give benefits and breaks. There would be a sigh of relief at the social services offices, but the cost of some items would go up, because the employers would of course pass their extra expenses onto the consumer. But a collapse...naw.

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#10 Jan 16, 2013
Ambro2000 wrote:
They might be illegal here but they are so deeply integrated in the society that deporting them would trigger a collapse of US economy.
with those that work those jobs being filled by citizens like it was meant to be,meaning those funds will no longer be sent out of the country. take their kids out of our schools meaning the gpa will go back up and over crowding gone.
removing all illegal aliens will be best for the country ,and with all the fraud crime will also go down.
illegal aliens have created a crime wave even going so low as to attack our kids. illegal aliens are not needed and it is not our fault their homelands do not want them.
DWG

Everett, MA

#11 Jan 16, 2013
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text> NO, but what would happen is that there would be unskilled jobs available for unskilled Americans, the same people who used to work those jobs. The employers would be forced to pay a fair wage and give benefits and breaks. There would be a sigh of relief at the social services offices, but the cost of some items would go up, because the employers would of course pass their extra expenses onto the consumer. But a collapse...naw.
It is just teory, but in practice does not work my friend, in other words like a soccer expression " ...the coach do not make a changes when we the first team of eleven (players) do a nice job...."

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Dwg
immigraniada

Los Angeles, CA

#12 Jan 16, 2013
Magadala

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#13 Jan 16, 2013
ronnie wrote:
<quoted text>I just watched a report on CNN about illegal alien Asians being harbored in Birthing homes in California. Once the Asians drop the anchor, they fly back to China or where ever. Looks like the Asians took lessons from Mexicans and started anchoring too. Pretty soon those Asians will out number you Mexicans and then what will ya do about your reconquista??? Ha
That's going to be the BIG surprise!!! Asians far outdistance mexicans in education, they grow their own businesses, they assimilate...

Question: When was the last time you saw an Asian begging for in state tuition or access to federal financial aid? Yet, our college campuses are teeming with Asians who excel. Asians are going to be the real big surprise. mexicans came here as peasants, they don't finish high school and refuse to assimilate. I guess we will just have to expand the barios, they ain't going anywhere else...so much for the best and brightest!
Magadala

Brownsville, OR

#14 Jan 16, 2013
immigraniada wrote:
So interesting how you justify your illegal cause by always referring to the fact that we are all immigrants. So what?!!! You NEVER address the fact that you are an ILLEGAL ALIEN, not an immigrant. We didn't ask for you, we don't need nor want you....

Yes, you may be coming over, but you bring nothing...because you came from nothing, your own country doesn't want you except to send $$$ back!How does it feel to always be at the bottom of the barrel begging...with no respect, nada?!!!

Question: When are you guys going to get something new? The Si puede didn't work, you need a new line...

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#15 Jan 16, 2013
How about those people who came here as students and have bachelors degrees from their countries but could not find a legal way not to overstay their visas ? Are they not needed here as well ?
Alex

Oakland, CA

#16 Jan 17, 2013
People forget that California along with other states belonged to Mexico. & now you call them ILLEGAL ALIENS?!? Who are you to label someone?!? Mexicans, Asians, Caucasians, & African American we are all human instead of being racist & trying to say illegal aliens have no right being here you should welcome them cause they are the ones who pick your vegetables & fruits so your precious little American kids can get to them at the store. People should be more open & welcoming to each other
alex

Portland, OR

#19 Jan 17, 2013
Idiots dont know that Mexicans better said latinos are what holds this country together all you retards that say other wise are probably spoiled little brats that have been taught that illegals are bad there is a little of everything and i sure as hell dont you guys harvesting fruit. Anyway mexicans (latinos) are what make the rich richer no matter how much they try to ignore it. And well you guys are little people just like i in this country ruled by the rich and powerful so your opinion really doesnt matter open your eyes and see the bigger picture. Its no diff then what the founding fathers did a long time ago they immigrated here illegally

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#20 Jan 17, 2013
Ambro2000 wrote:
How about those people who came here as students and have bachelors degrees from their countries but could not find a legal way not to overstay their visas ? Are they not needed here as well ?
whos job should they get, maybe the new graduate citizen students who graduated in the same field.maybe they deserve better than citizens in their own homeland?

there is a legal way for them to not over stay their visa,go back and try again do not try and force others to except them.
Magadala

Brownsville, OR

#21 Jan 17, 2013
Ambro2000 wrote:
How about those people who came here as students and have bachelors degrees from their countries but could not find a legal way not to overstay their visas ? Are they not needed here as well ?
ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! What you don't realize is that America was a thriving country before you came!!! That's the reason you came! We have our own PhD's, MD's, scientist, etc. We aren't lacking in AMERICAN skilled labor.

The problem arose when greedy corporations shipped jobs overseas, diluting our middle class. This was followed by illegal aliens and most recent arrival foreign borns who will take anything. Illegal aliens take LESS than anything. A good example is Microsoft. We have a bazillion American techies. What Microsoft is doing is importing people from places like India, who accept much lower wages. The sad part about all of this is that the people who accepted the low wages will be asking for higher wages, and the beat starts all over.

Again, NO(!) I don't care if you have 20 masters degrees, we have our own...sorry! No I'm not!
Magadala

Brownsville, OR

#22 Jan 17, 2013
Alex wrote:
People forget that California along with other states belonged to Mexico. & now you call them ILLEGAL ALIENS?!? Who are you to label someone?!? Mexicans, Asians, Caucasians, & African American we are all human instead of being racist & trying to say illegal aliens have no right being here you should welcome them cause they are the ones who pick your vegetables & fruits so your precious little American kids can get to them at the store. People should be more open & welcoming to each other
Aha, ha, ha, ha!!! That's an old one! Anyone who comes here without proper documentation is an illegal alien...that includes you visa overstays!!!! The America states that you name, if I am not mistaken, were a territory, NOT part of mexico. mexico held the territory for 25 years, and lost the war! That said, let's take a look at the mexican culture and note how it blames the US for all of its problems, just like the 'dreamers' in America who claim that their circumstances are, "...through no fault of their own." You came here through no fault of our own either!!! You never accept responsibility for your actions. You never accept that your country continuously reeks of corruption that the people do nothing about! Screw my veggies, etc., blacks did it before you were even thought of, and others who are more gracious will take your place...as in Asians.

So, please get mad at us and leave!!!

P.S., Don't say that you are American in every way except a piece of paper and that you have felt completely American. BS!!! How can you say that when you parents are still not able to speak English no matter how long they have been here? Your parents could have said the same thing about the only country they have known when they were in mexico, but they left! You can too, we won't stop you!

Don't forget, WE OWE YOU NOTHING!!!

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