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“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#1 Apr 29, 2013
"The right of a citizen to bear arms, in lawful defense of himself or the State, is absolute. He does not derive it from the State government. It is one of the high powers delegated directly to the citizen, and is excepted out of the general powers of government. A law cannot be passed to infringe upon or impair it, because it is above the law, and independent of the lawmaking power."-- Cockrum v. State, 24 Tex. 394 (1859).

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#2 Apr 29, 2013
"Personal liberty, or the Right to enjoyment of life and liberty, is one of the fundamental or natural Rights, which has been protected by its inclusion as a guarantee in the various constitutions, which is not derived from, or dependent on, the U.S. Constitution, which may not be submitted to a vote and may not depend on the outcome of an election. It is one of the most sacred and valuable Rights, as sacred as the Right to private property ... and is regarded as inalienable."--16 C.J.S., Constitutional Law, Sect.202, p.987.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#3 Apr 29, 2013
"'It is not only the same in words, but the same in meaning, and delegates the same powers to the government, and reserves and secures the same rights and privileges to the citizen; and as long as it continues to exist in its present form, it speaks not only in the same words, but with the same meaning and intent with which it spoke when it came from the hands of its framers, and was voted on and adopted by the people of the United States. Any other rule of construction would abrogate the judicial character of this court, and make it the mere reflex of the popular opinion or passion of the day.'"--Mr. Chief Justice Taney in Scott v. Sandford, 19 How. 393, 426, 15 L. ed. 691, 709. As quoted by Mr. Justice Brewer deliver[ing] the opinion of the court, U.S. Supreme Court,[South Carolina v. US, 199 U.S. 437 (1905)]

“The "entitled" =communist.”

Level 9

Since: May 10

MY MONEY, come take it.

#4 Apr 29, 2013
The framers knew one day the federal government would become "elected royalty". That's the purpose for the language and why it's the 2nd Amendment and not the 10th....The 1st Amendment was first because of their experience with England. The 2nd was so that experience never happened again.

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#5 Apr 29, 2013
Need a background check for a gun purchase, then you need one to vote.

“The "entitled" =communist.”

Level 9

Since: May 10

MY MONEY, come take it.

#6 Apr 30, 2013
In Texas, excons can have firearms in their house, business and vehicles after they are "off paper" for 5 years.....and your point?

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#7 Apr 30, 2013
Jack from Bedias wrote:
In Texas, excons can have firearms in their house, business and vehicles after they are "off paper" for 5 years.....and your point?
It used to be that prisoners would receive their firearms back when leaving jail/prison after having served their time. Self-preservation is the first law of nature. And no one has the authority to deprive their fellow man of that. It is the first law of nature. Anyone contending differently is an advocate for "cruel and unusual punishment". For the person is continuing to be punished even after having served their time.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#8 Apr 30, 2013
RustyS wrote:
Need a background check for a gun purchase, then you need one to vote.
The right to arms is a natural right that belongs to all free people. In order to be enabled to exercise their first natural right; Self-Defense/Preservation. The right to vote is a political right resulting from the social compact.

“The "entitled" =communist.”

Level 9

Since: May 10

MY MONEY, come take it.

#9 Apr 30, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
<quoted text>
It used to be that prisoners would receive their firearms back when leaving jail/prison after having served their time. Self-preservation is the first law of nature. And no one has the authority to deprive their fellow man of that. It is the first law of nature. Anyone contending differently is an advocate for "cruel and unusual punishment". For the person is continuing to be punished even after having served their time.
This Democrat-dimwit is another that thinks state law for gun control will trump the 2nd Amendment. In McDonald v. Chicago it's explained indept asto when and why excons could not own firearms. Gun control was settled in 1791.....It's funny that going all the way back to that nut in the UT tower, none of these "mass killings of innocents" were the act of an excon. They were all loony-tunes. The libs are the ones who care so much about these nuts. They need to deal with that issue and leave me and my guns alone, although it wont matter. I dont care what they do, they're not getting my guns without a fight.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#10 Apr 30, 2013
Jack from Bedias wrote:
<quoted text>This Democrat-dimwit is another that thinks state law for gun control will trump the 2nd Amendment. In McDonald v. Chicago it's explained indept asto when and why excons could not own firearms. Gun control was settled in 1791.....It's funny that going all the way back to that nut in the UT tower, none of these "mass killings of innocents" were the act of an excon. They were all loony-tunes. The libs are the ones who care so much about these nuts. They need to deal with that issue and leave me and my guns alone, although it wont matter. I dont care what they do, they're not getting my guns without a fight.
The demonRats rarely attack one of their own kind.

And their not getting mine either.

That quote I posted PROVES that the U.S. Supreme Court CONSPIRED to subvert our right. And it was one of their OWN that provided the evidence. Justice Hugo Black called the courts attention to this FACT in Adamson v. People Of State Of California. And the court STILL ignored the evidence. Which they are STILL continuing to do. So the present court is COMPLICIT in the CONSPIRACY.

“The "entitled" =communist.”

Level 9

Since: May 10

MY MONEY, come take it.

#11 May 1, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
<quoted text>
The demonRats rarely attack one of their own kind.
And their not getting mine either.
That quote I posted PROVES that the U.S. Supreme Court CONSPIRED to subvert our right. And it was one of their OWN that provided the evidence. Justice Hugo Black called the courts attention to this FACT in Adamson v. People Of State Of California. And the court STILL ignored the evidence. Which they are STILL continuing to do. So the present court is COMPLICIT in the CONSPIRACY.
The "conspiracy" is our "elected royalty".They will do anything to stay in power. A majority of "we the people" are too stupid to vote, own guns, or anything else other than spending their welfare money. This is not due to our education system, I think alot of it is due to Hollyrock, or TV. Pure indocrination in the 1st degree....I find it funny that I have a GED and a couple of college credits and I own my home and business. Most of these "Obama-ites" believe in conspiracy theories and couldn't find their azz with both hands, but they know how to steal and make babies, future criminals.....I've been on here for years, longer than my avatar says. I've tried to talk to some of these people, on the right or left, they just dont get it. They dont understand the Constitution, other than to play parrot. They haven't a clue that it's the Court's interpretation of the law, which can be moot, that's actually the law.....They have no idea that that can change. We are reliving the time before 1861. I cant help but believe that, it's planned that way.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#12 May 1, 2013
Jack from Bedias wrote:
<quoted text>The "conspiracy" is our "elected royalty".They will do anything to stay in power. A majority of "we the people" are too stupid to vote, own guns, or anything else other than spending their welfare money. This is not due to our education system, I think alot of it is due to Hollyrock, or TV. Pure indocrination in the 1st degree....I find it funny that I have a GED and a couple of college credits and I own my home and business. Most of these "Obama-ites" believe in conspiracy theories and couldn't find their azz with both hands, but they know how to steal and make babies, future criminals.....I've been on here for years, longer than my avatar says. I've tried to talk to some of these people, on the right or left, they just dont get it. They dont understand the Constitution, other than to play parrot. They haven't a clue that it's the Court's interpretation of the law, which can be moot, that's actually the law.....They have no idea that that can change. We are reliving the time before 1861. I cant help but believe that, it's planned that way.
Couldn't agree more. I've had the suspicion that they have been using the principles found in the Declaration in reverse on us. That they know that people will put up with a LOT of bs before doing anything about it. Which is why they have been doing it slowly and incrementally. But the mask is coming off, or they are being revealed. The next move is up to us I suppose.

“One Night”

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It Just Disappeared

#13 May 1, 2013
The Big Guns ~ Heatwave
http://youtu.be/55ONCFgmswE

“Proud To Be An American”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#14 May 1, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
<quoted text>
It used to be that prisoners would receive their firearms back when leaving jail/prison after having served their time. Self-preservation is the first law of nature. And no one has the authority to deprive their fellow man of that. It is the first law of nature. Anyone contending differently is an advocate for "cruel and unusual punishment". For the person is continuing to be punished even after having served their time.
A felony comes with the permanent loss of firearm rights already attached. The loss of firearm rights was there from the very get-go whereas sentencing and time served have no connections or can they excuse, erase a given. In other words, people need to think of everything before commiting a felony, etc.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#15 May 1, 2013
JohnInLa wrote:
<quoted text>A felony comes with the permanent loss of firearm rights already attached. The loss of firearm rights was there from the very get-go whereas sentencing and time served have no connections or can they excuse, erase a given. In other words, people need to think of everything before commiting a felony, etc.
"Felony" was the VERY REASON the 2nd amendment was INSISTED upon. Just take a look at the history of Shay's Rebellion. Try again.

“The "entitled" =communist.”

Level 9

Since: May 10

MY MONEY, come take it.

#16 May 2, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Couldn't agree more. I've had the suspicion that they have been using the principles found in the Declaration in reverse on us. That they know that people will put up with a LOT of bs before doing anything about it. Which is why they have been doing it slowly and incrementally. But the mask is coming off, or they are being revealed. The next move is up to us I suppose.
People have said for years that the "silent majority" is slow to anger. I think we saw alittle in the 2010 midterms.Again, alot of these people have no idea of how our government works. I think many stayed home in 2012 because of disquitude. The drive-by press blaming Republicans for everything, when most of the crap was caused by Democrats or the "Out House"....I think alot of people are waking up. I listen to talk radio alot and I'm hearing this in the people that call in. I had to do some refreshing back in 2007 myself, but after being on here for awhile, I didn't research on the internet, I started going to the college library at Sam Houston U. in Huntsville. There's alot of pure crap floating on here. The only problem is that people on both sides believe the crap.
crack

Santa Fe, NM

#17 May 2, 2013
Jack from Bedias wrote:
<quoted text>The "conspiracy" is our "elected royalty".They will do anything to stay in power. A majority of "we the people" are too stupid to vote, own guns, or anything else other than spending their welfare money. This is not due to our education system, I think alot of it is due to Hollyrock, or TV. Pure indocrination in the 1st degree....I find it funny that I have a GED and a couple of college credits and I own my home and business. Most of these "Obama-ites" believe in conspiracy theories and couldn't find their azz with both hands, but they know how to steal and make babies, future criminals.....I've been on here for years, longer than my avatar says. I've tried to talk to some of these people, on the right or left, they just dont get it. They dont understand the Constitution, other than to play parrot. They haven't a clue that it's the Court's interpretation of the law, which can be moot, that's actually the law.....They have no idea that that can change. We are reliving the time before 1861. I cant help but believe that, it's planned that way.
pot

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#18 May 2, 2013
Jack from Bedias wrote:
<quoted text>People have said for years that the "silent majority" is slow to anger. I think we saw alittle in the 2010 midterms.Again, alot of these people have no idea of how our government works. I think many stayed home in 2012 because of disquitude. The drive-by press blaming Republicans for everything, when most of the crap was caused by Democrats or the "Out House"....I think alot of people are waking up. I listen to talk radio alot and I'm hearing this in the people that call in. I had to do some refreshing back in 2007 myself, but after being on here for awhile, I didn't research on the internet, I started going to the college library at Sam Houston U. in Huntsville. There's alot of pure crap floating on here. The only problem is that people on both sides believe the crap.
Then it is up to us, and a few others I've encountered. To make sure the actual facts get out. As well as forcing the republican party to go back to its roots,(no pun intended). And stop trying to buddy up to the demonrats. And if they won't, start a new party.
Yes

Santa Fe, NM

#19 May 2, 2013
GunShow1 wrote:
<quoted text>
. And if they won't, start a new party.
please start a new party. You are an embarrassment to everyone. Rally behind crazy Cruz.

“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#20 May 2, 2013
Yes wrote:
<quoted text>
please start a new party. You are an embarrassment to everyone. Rally behind crazy Cruz.
Jim Jones and the democratic party

The move of Peoples Temple headquarters to San Francisco in 1975 invigorated Jones' political career. After the Temple served an important role in the mayoral election victory of George Moscone in 1975, Moscone appointed Jones as the Chairman of the San Francisco Housing Authority Commission.[43]

Unlike most other figures deemed as cult leaders, Jones was able to gain public support and contact with prominent local and national United States politicians. For example, Jones and Moscone met privately with vice presidential candidate Walter Mondale on his campaign plane days before the 1976 election and Mondale publicly praised the Temple.[44][45] First Lady Rosalynn Carter also personally met with Jones on multiple occasions, corresponded with him about Cuba, and spoke with him at the grand opening of the San Francisco DEMOCRATIC Party Headquarters where Jones garnered louder applause than Mrs. Carter.[44][46][47]

In September 1977, Willie Brown served as master of ceremonies at a large testimonial dinner for Jones attended by Governor Jerry Brown and Lieutenant Governor Mervyn Dymally and other political figures.[48] At that dinner, while introducing Jones, Willie Brown stated "Let me present to you what you should see every day when you look in the mirror in the early morning hours.... Let me present to you a combination of Martin King, Angela Davis, Albert Einstein... Chairman Mao."[49] Harvey Milk, who spoke at political rallies at the Temple,[50] wrote to Jones after a visit to the Temple: "Rev Jim, It may take me many a day to come back down from the high that I reach today. I found something dear today. I found a sense of being that makes up for all the hours and energy placed in a fight. I found what you wanted me to find. I shall be back. For I can never leave."[51][52]

In his San Francisco Temple apartment, Jones hosted San Francisco radical political figures such as Angela Davis for discussions.[53] He spoke with friend and San Francisco Sun-Reporter publisher Dr. Carlton Goodlett about Jones' remorse regarding not being able to travel to socialist countries such as People's Republic of China and the Soviet Union, speculating that he could be Chief Dairyman of the Soviet Union.[54] After his criticisms caused increased tensions with the Nation of Islam, Jones spoke at a huge rally healing the rift between the two groups in the Los Angeles Convention Center attended by many of Jones' closest political acquaintances.[55]

While Jones forged media alliances with key columnists and others at the San Francisco Chronicle and other media outlets,[56] the move to San Francisco also brought increasing media scrutiny. After Chronicle reporter Marshall Kilduff encountered resistance to publishing an exposť, he brought his story to New West Magazine.[57]...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones

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