Australian election: Voters react

Australian election: Voters react

There are 38 comments on the BBC News story from Aug 4, 2013, titled Australian election: Voters react. In it, BBC News reports that:

Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has called an election for 7 September, six weeks after defeating former PM Julia Gillard in an internal Labor party vote.

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Level 5

Since: Sep 07

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#1 Aug 4, 2013
Australians would do well to learn from what's happening everywhere else in the world.

learn from other peoples mistakes. don't repeat them.
Flynn_2615

Australia

#2 Aug 4, 2013
BBC journalists should concentrate on the shambles that is UK politics.

Their story " voters react " has been lifted from a cross section of every day Australians who made statements to our own news services.

The only decent thing is there was no bias but having said that, there was no point to publishing the article in the UK.

There was certainly no point in Asian Guy making any comment on this topic.
Rajesh Sinha

Melbourne, Australia

#4 Aug 5, 2013
Flynn_2615

Canberra, Australia

#5 Aug 5, 2013
SouthWesterner wrote:
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Exactly, which is why we have to put a stop to multiculturalism and non-white immigration(i.e. invasion).
Otherwise we'll end up like England! No thanks.
I was in London a few years back and there's a great game to play, it's called spot the White Anglo Saxon.

Same in New York, there's more Blacks in the USA than Africa.
The Australian

Sydney, Australia

#7 Aug 10, 2013
SouthWesterner wrote:
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Exactly, which is why we have to put a stop to multiculturalism and non-white immigration(i.e. invasion).
Otherwise we'll end up like England! No thanks.
I think we have gone there already, there are more Sudanese and middle eastern people here now that our country cannot afford to look after them. This is one reason why we are borrowing money from overseas. I say send them back where they came from
Level 5

Since: Sep 07

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#8 Aug 11, 2013
SouthWesterner wrote:
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Exactly, which is why we have to put a stop to multiculturalism and non-white immigration(i.e. invasion).
Otherwise we'll end up like England! No thanks.
I do believe in controlled immigration as in "legal" is good.

but what we are experiencing all around the world is uncontrolled, illegal. or as you call it "invasion".

obviously not good.

especially when we are dealing with muslims who have absolutely no desire to assimilate. they want sharia law. and they are championing this cause no matter where they go.

be damn with YOUR laws they are saying.

listen to the evil..
Level 5

Since: Sep 07

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#9 Aug 11, 2013
The Australian wrote:
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I think we have gone there already, there are more Sudanese and middle eastern people here now that our country cannot afford to look after them. This is one reason why we are borrowing money from overseas. I say send them back where they came from
consider what is happening in australia..

you have a population of 26 million. in nearby indonesia alone, there are 300 million.

it would not take too many of them to conquer your country if you allowed them open border access.

muslims have shown they don't respect any laws except the sharia law. they have confirmed this in so many countries around the world.

their religion islam mandates that they wage war with any non-muslims who will not submit to their will.

if you care about your future and the future of your children, you would do well to fight back against this invasion.
Indian Man

Delhi, India

#10 Aug 11, 2013
Asian Guy wrote:
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consider what is happening in australia..
you have a population of 26 million. in nearby indonesia alone, there are 300 million.
it would not take too many of them to conquer your country if you allowed them open border access.
muslims have shown they don't respect any laws except the sharia law. they have confirmed this in so many countries around the world.
their religion islam mandates that they wage war with any non-muslims who will not submit to their will.
if you care about your future and the future of your children, you would do well to fight back against this invasion.
I doubt if it'd matter whether you have aussie culture or islamic culture. Both want you to assimilate into 'THEIR' culture, or leave / die.

Both are tribal and based on cultural pride and combined ego of a group ie IDENTITY. Islamism, racism, tribalism, identitism, culturalism all have the same 'ours vs them'.

What people should do instead is work out the right and wrong of cultural practices or intercultural contradictions, with logic and debate, with a scientific temperament. The resultant culture is then neither ours or theirs, since it is just logic, like laws of motion or long division - nobody says Newton the English man discovered Gravity so things fall downward only in England, and we will not accept their laws of gravity. So a clear proof of effectiveness has to be demonstrated with repeatability as in all things science.

The problem with intercultural problems is because it is often not easy to see the results of cultural practices on society as effects may be gradual, or since the people are themselves the subjects and observers at the same time and It is always more difficult to see and judge yourself.
OMFG

Bangkok, Thailand

#11 Aug 11, 2013
Rajesh Sinha wrote:
http://www.india2australia.com /dumb-and-dull-candidates-maki ng-australian-election-a-farce /
I encourage Indian haters to visit the above link and click on the Google Ads as much as possible. The dirty turd skin that owns the site will get his Google Adsense account red flagged and then banned by Google. No more money for curry for the filthy useless Indian.

Click away!
Level 5

Since: Sep 07

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#12 Aug 11, 2013
Indian Man wrote:
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I doubt if it'd matter whether you have aussie culture or islamic culture. Both want you to assimilate into 'THEIR' culture, or leave / die.
Both are tribal and based on cultural pride and combined ego of a group ie IDENTITY. Islamism, racism, tribalism, identitism, culturalism all have the same 'ours vs them'.
What people should do instead is work out the right and wrong of cultural practices or intercultural contradictions, with logic and debate, with a scientific temperament. The resultant culture is then neither ours or theirs, since it is just logic, like laws of motion or long division - nobody says Newton the English man discovered Gravity so things fall downward only in England, and we will not accept their laws of gravity. So a clear proof of effectiveness has to be demonstrated with repeatability as in all things science.
The problem with intercultural problems is because it is often not easy to see the results of cultural practices on society as effects may be gradual, or since the people are themselves the subjects and observers at the same time and It is always more difficult to see and judge yourself.
you must think I'm some stupid non-muslim? right, muslim?

one only needs to review the stats for muslim countries around the world to realize you are full of shit.

HERE. READ.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim-m...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_world

after reviewing the stats, one only needs to ask themselves the question, why these countries are PREDOMINANTLY muslim?

the answer.. the muslims force the non-muslims out.
http://cpnagasaki.wordpress.com/2013/05/30/ch...
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
Indian Man

Delhi, India

#13 Aug 11, 2013
OMFG wrote:
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I encourage Indian haters to visit the above link and click on the Google Ads as much as possible. The dirty turd skin that owns the site will get his Google Adsense account red flagged and then banned by Google. No more money for curry for the filthy useless Indian.
Click away!
Indian haters = one who hates Indians
or an Indian who hates?

Or you dont really care as long as they click away!
Indian Man

Delhi, India

#14 Aug 11, 2013
@asian guy
Already know that, but thanks for posting, sure may help someone else reading / trolling here.

These aren't the sort of statistics the main stream media is likely to show. So thank you for those links.
Foo

Nerang, Australia

#15 Aug 11, 2013
Indian Man wrote:
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I doubt if it'd matter whether you have aussie culture or islamic culture. Both want you to assimilate into 'THEIR' culture, or leave / die.
Both are tribal and based on cultural pride and combined ego of a group ie IDENTITY. Islamism, racism, tribalism, identitism, culturalism all have the same 'ours vs them'.
What people should do instead is work out the right and wrong of cultural practices or intercultural contradictions, with logic and debate, with a scientific temperament. The resultant culture is then neither ours or theirs, since it is just logic, like laws of motion or long division - nobody says Newton the English man discovered Gravity so things fall downward only in England, and we will not accept their laws of gravity. So a clear proof of effectiveness has to be demonstrated with repeatability as in all things science.
The problem with intercultural problems is because it is often not easy to see the results of cultural practices on society as effects may be gradual, or since the people are themselves the subjects and observers at the same time and It is always more difficult to see and judge yourself.
Are you trying to say that Australians should poop on the road ?.........don't hold your breath waiting for that Vishnoo......(lol)
Grandad FOO

Albany Creek, Australia

#16 Aug 11, 2013
Foo wrote:
<quoted text>Are you trying to say that Australians should poop on the road ?.........don't hold your breath waiting for that Vishnoo......(lol)
HEY my boy you are mastabater, spot it u haven't got enough to hang on to. Go back to you boy friend a play with his rear end.
kev

Adelaide, Australia

#17 Aug 11, 2013
Indian Man wrote:
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I doubt if it'd matter whether you have aussie culture or islamic culture. Both want you to assimilate into 'THEIR' culture, or leave / die.
Both are tribal and based on cultural pride and combined ego of a group ie IDENTITY. Islamism, racism, tribalism, identitism, culturalism all have the same 'ours vs them'.
What people should do instead is work out the right and wrong of cultural practices or intercultural contradictions, with logic and debate, with a scientific temperament. The resultant culture is then neither ours or theirs, since it is just logic, like laws of motion or long division - nobody says Newton the English man discovered Gravity so things fall downward only in England, and we will not accept their laws of gravity. So a clear proof of effectiveness has to be demonstrated with repeatability as in all things science.
The problem with intercultural problems is because it is often not easy to see the results of cultural practices on society as effects may be gradual, or since the people are themselves the subjects and observers at the same time and It is always more difficult to see and judge yourself.
Well obviously if you want to come live in a country they would expect you to assimilate, common sense right?
Level 5

Since: Sep 07

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#18 Aug 11, 2013
kev wrote:
<quoted text>Well obviously if you want to come live in a country they would expect you to assimilate, common sense right?
cult religions have nothing to do with commonsense.
Indian Man

Delhi, India

#19 Aug 12, 2013
kev wrote:
<quoted text>Well obviously if you want to come live in a country they would expect you to assimilate, common sense right?
Common sense may vary from place to place and time to time. And just cause something is currently considered common sense, is not sufficient reason for it to be held as reasonable. It is just contemporary to a certain culture.

Neither does the commonness (general acceptance) of any idea add any logical or empirical support to itself. Science was never a democracy.

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Also, certain aspects of an immigrant culture, or just individual behaviour, may be better than the host culture. Imagine a group of aussie women living in Saudi Arabia, to understand my point. So why should the host population always want immigrants to assimilate, ie give up their own cultural practices and replace with host's ways, WITHOUT GOING INTO THE MERITS OF BOTH CULTURE'S practices. Surely you wud be better off doing a fair unbiased comparision of the cultures, before taking a decision. Surely the better practices will result in a better life for you.

A scientific comparison of homologous memes of two cultures, is way better than tribal defensiveness, and mere and simple 'their culture' vs 'our culture' type thinking. The loss will only be of those who fail to choose right and thus make better their own lives.
Level 5

Since: Sep 07

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#20 Aug 12, 2013
Indian Man wrote:
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Common sense may vary from place to place and time to time. And just cause something is currently considered common sense, is not sufficient reason for it to be held as reasonable. It is just contemporary to a certain culture.
Neither does the commonness (general acceptance) of any idea add any logical or empirical support to itself. Science was never a democracy.
==========
Also, certain aspects of an immigrant culture, or just individual behaviour, may be better than the host culture. Imagine a group of aussie women living in Saudi Arabia, to understand my point. So why should the host population always want immigrants to assimilate, ie give up their own cultural practices and replace with host's ways, WITHOUT GOING INTO THE MERITS OF BOTH CULTURE'S practices. Surely you wud be better off doing a fair unbiased comparision of the cultures, before taking a decision. Surely the better practices will result in a better life for you.
A scientific comparison of homologous memes of two cultures, is way better than tribal defensiveness, and mere and simple 'their culture' vs 'our culture' type thinking. The loss will only be of those who fail to choose right and thus make better their own lives.
muslim.
Level 5

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#21 Aug 12, 2013
Grandad FOO wrote:
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HEY my boy you are mastabater, spot it u haven't got enough to hang on to. Go back to you boy friend a play with his rear end.
another muslim.

what the hell are you doing in australia if you think you are better than the australians?

if you don't want to assimilate, get out. otherwise, be prepared to get forced out.
sid

Chermside, Australia

#22 Aug 12, 2013
Indian Man wrote:
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I doubt if it'd matter whether you have aussie culture or islamic culture. Both want you to assimilate into 'THEIR' culture, or leave / die.
Both are tribal and based on cultural pride and combined ego of a group ie IDENTITY. Islamism, racism, tribalism, identitism, culturalism all have the same 'ours vs them'.
What people should do instead is work out the right and wrong of cultural practices or intercultural contradictions, with logic and debate, with a scientific temperament. The resultant culture is then neither ours or theirs, since it is just logic, like laws of motion or long division - nobody says Newton the English man discovered Gravity so things fall downward only in England, and we will not accept their laws of gravity. So a clear proof of effectiveness has to be demonstrated with repeatability as in all things science.
The problem with intercultural problems is because it is often not easy to see the results of cultural practices on society as effects may be gradual, or since the people are themselves the subjects and observers at the same time and It is always more difficult to see and judge yourself.
Interesting point but you have to have parties that are willing to compromise. If you take christianity and islam as an example you have one belief system that has evolved from barbarity to something better but still imperfect in 2,000 years, then you look at the other belief system which is rooted in barbarity and has remained virtually unchanged in that barbarity for 1,400 years. Christianity of the old testament has been left behind, the slaughter, rape, child selling, incest are generally not endorsed or practised by contemporary christians, however islam has not shown a similar evolution of thought.

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