A Single, Controversial 'Poison Pill' Could Totally Derail Immigration Reform

Jun 12, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: SFGate

Though the immigration reform bill cleared its first significant hurdle in the Senate on Tuesday , certain developments still threaten to derail the legislation's passage in the legislative body.

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Reality Check

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Jun 12, 2013
 
One would supposed that the proponents of a border tougher security amendment that these Senators are seeking has already been drafted and detailed ready to be handed to DHS to work out possible implementation,should the DHS comes with a plan that more resembles the gang of eight what happens next?

It is hard to make sense of this rhetoric unless they themselves comes up with a working plan.
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Jun 12, 2013
 
Reality Check wrote:
One would supposed that the proponents of a border tougher security amendment that these Senators are seeking has already been drafted and detailed ready to be handed to DHS to work out possible implementation,should the DHS comes with a plan that more resembles the gang of eight what happens next?
It is hard to make sense of this rhetoric unless they themselves comes up with a working plan.
I' ll take this back I really missed part of the article after my mouse malfunctioned while scrolling.
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After reading the full article one can't help but wonder why would the Republicans wants to make this bill tougher than it already is, after all mending differences works the other way around,what ever the GOP is thinking its very hard to understand. Democrats should realize they need to dig their heels in and go for it with a tough fight leaving the Hispanics resentment towards the GOP in tact and stronger as well this could be nothing more than a wind fall victory for the Dems.

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Jun 12, 2013
 
Cornyn is very tricky and they have to be very careful otherwise he might kill this bill. At least Lee, Cruz, Sessions and Grassley say they oppose it but Cornyn acts like a snake. The only Republican who seems serious about improving the bill is Hatch.

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After reading the full article one can't help but wonder why would the Republicans wants to make this bill tougher than it already is, after all mending differences works the other way around,what ever the GOP is thinking its very hard to understand. Democrats should realize they need to dig their heels in and go for it with a tough fight leaving the Hispanics resentment towards the GOP in tact and stronger as well this could be nothing more than a wind fall victory for the Dems.
they should enforce a bill that would no longer reward criminals with citizenship, and thus luring many more of these poor souls to a life of no doubt welfare dependency on the American taxpayer's dime! These people are nothing but low/ no skilled human garbage who have nothing to offer their own countries but higher birth and crime rates, why should we feel guilty or compelled to help them INVADE our country? Repeal birthright citizenship , even THEY laugh at how stupid this policy is and will continue to exploit it as long as we do nothing to change laws!
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<quoted text>they should enforce a bill that would no longer reward criminals with citizenship, and thus luring many more of these poor souls to a life of no doubt welfare dependency on the American taxpayer's dime! These people are nothing but low/ no skilled human garbage who have nothing to offer their own countries but higher birth and crime rates, why should we feel guilty or compelled to help them INVADE our country? Repeal birthright citizenship , even THEY laugh at how stupid this policy is and will continue to exploit it as long as we do nothing to change laws!


I really don't like to engage with folks who think they are better than others and have the right to demean poor people. Here is a gentle reminder that we will all be equal one day no matter who you are or what you are you can doubt it if you want to but it is a universal truth that you have to face up with and that you cannot alter to fit your size.
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Jun 13, 2013
 
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<quoted text>There are here illegally and rewardingthem for breaking the law is wrong. Bottom line get in the back of the line and wait just like the others who are doing it correctly. BTW if you thing the Democrates or Obama give a crap about these illgals you are just kidding yourself. The left is useing them for votes just like they use AA. Get a clue.
In many cases the "lines" that you refer to simply do not exist.
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Jun 14, 2013
 
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<quoted text>Yes they do. You have alot of people from Mexico waiting to get into America legally so what the hell are you talking about?
OK. Good example. Like it or not millions upon millions of Mexicans are employed by American businesses. Apparently there was a need for their services.

Yes these millions of people could have waited in line, but the line only allows for 2500 visas per year.

It is the same everywhere. In the Philippines it takes an average of 26 years before they will even look at a visa application.

This is what they mean when they talk about a broken immigration system.
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Jun 17, 2013
 
Another Day wrote:
<quoted text>There are also alot of Americans looking for work also. Bottom line get in the back of the line, so if we can let millions get amesty then we can send them packing a give a few million visa's out. Sound pretty simple to me.
Get in the back of the line that does not exist. OK
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Jun 17, 2013
 
Below is a comprehensize three phase plan for "immigration reform" and "fixing unemployment".

Phase 1 Fix federal E-Verify so that's it's reliable.

Phase 2 Mandate that any employer required to pay federal income tax also use E-Verify.

Phase 3 Discontinue federally subsidized unemployment insurance so that millions of Americans previously "not willing" to perform certain types of jobs will be encouraged to do so anyhow.

Once committed to the task, there is no reason why all three phases could not be implemented with a three month time period.

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Jun 17, 2013
 
You forgot to say what you wanna do with those 11 million people.
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You forgot to say what you wanna do with those 11 million people.
That's the beauty of the plan, the federal government wouldn't have to do anything with them. They'd just sort of drift back the Mexico the same way they drifted here to the US in the first place. For proof of concept, consider that number of illegal residents in the US dropped significantly at the height of the economic recession when jobs became scarce. As it turns out, they actually will self deport under the right circumstances.

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That's the beauty of the plan, the federal government wouldn't have to do anything with them. They'd just sort of drift back the Mexico the same way they drifted here to the US in the first place. For proof of concept, consider that number of illegal residents in the US dropped significantly at the height of the economic recession when jobs became scarce. As it turns out, they actually will self deport under the right circumstances.
On the paper that might seem to be the case but in reality we all know it's not gonna happen. They will find a way to stay here and continue to beat the system. That's why, ironically, it's better for USA to legalize them.
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<quoted text>What?? Dude it's a term used to says go back to mexico and apply for a visa which puts you at the back of the line istead of getting amnesty that bypasses people that are alreay waiting. Hello!!!!
The US imposes stiff penalties for people who try to return home and apply for visa. Actually it is a ten year penalty. Would you be in favor or revising US law to remove the penalties for people who try to leave the country?
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<quoted text>I really don't give a crap. They broke the freaking law, and by doing so doesn't give them the freaking right to jump in front of the line. Do you understand pee-brain. You seem to forget the fact that they broke the law righ, so why should we reward them?
So you just post random complaints based on nothing? First you rant about people getting on non-existent lines. Then you learn that US law imposes stiff penalties on illegal immigrants who try to return home to legalize their status. Now all of the sudden some laws are not important to you.

By the way, which orifice did you have to go to to pull out the nonsense about people jumping "in front of the line"?
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Jun 19, 2013
 
Another Day wrote:
<quoted text>Rants? First off as a law abiding taxpayer I have the freaking right to complain and if you have forgotten this still is America and I do have the 1st amendment right to do so. You Socialist Liberals haven't taken that away yet you boob. What I said was adhere to the freaking law and you don't get the right to jump in front of the very people doing it right retard. GET IT. Your problem is that you are to fcking stupid to understand MORON. Just because your illegal parents came doesn't make it right and if I had a choice I would ship your anchor baby azz back as well bitch. What now MS Know it all.
You have the right to rant. You also have the right to make up lies, but that does not mean that anybody has to take you seriously.
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Jun 20, 2013
 
Another Day wrote:
<quoted text>Correct, but I sure as hell nailed your anchor baby azz didn't I. I knew your parents were here illegally and that your azz was born here illegally so my rant is valid. Don't like the damn laws here take you sorry azz back to Mexico bitch.
Genius at work.
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Memo From Turner wrote:
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Genius at work.
It's funny how easy it is to figure you out.memo,no matter what you say about greedy employers who hire your parents,the bottom line is that no one put a gun to their heads to come here and break the Law. The Mexican government is solely responsible for your parents situation.

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Jun 20, 2013
 
O/T Folks, but I just had to comment on this because it's important.(having worked with Mental /homeless patients myself)
* Why would you take pictures of anyone in the streets,let alone homeless people?
* People are hurting in Obama's America don't approach people in such a rude,inconsiderate manner ,please. People react different to different situations. We are not all the same.
* Many of these homeless people have serious Mental issues. Many Cities have closed down Mental Health Facilities due to budget deficits.
* If a homeless asks you for money give a little and if not kindly explain you never carry cash. When you are out there ,regardless where your at... be prepared to be approached by a homeless individual. As the economy get's worst we will see more groups of homeless people/down on their luck.

Always carry a few buck on you for such a situation. Better to leave with your life than ...well you know.

Panhandlers arrested for stabbing a woman to death on Hollywood's 'Walk of Fame' after she took photo of them on her cell phone and wouldn't pay $1 for it

Christine Calderon , 23, was stabbed in the stomach on Tuesday night
Three men believed to be homeless were arrested for stabbing Calderon
Police identified the men through Calderon's pictures
Her mother said that she was studying to become an engineer

By Daily Mail Reporter

PUBLISHED: 00:56 EST, 20 June 201

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article -

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