Immigration is not black and white

Immigration is not black and white

There are 35 comments on the www.dallasnews.com story from Jan 7, 2008, titled Immigration is not black and white. In it, www.dallasnews.com reports that:

You've heard it all a dozen times. That the public is virulently anti-immigrant. That political leaders - including President Bush and the senators from both parties who voted last summer to overhaul the ...

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Chris

Martinsburg, WV

#21 Jan 7, 2008
Mexican and Proud wrote:
TLC you are right it is black and white to you, like it was in the 60'sin Selma Alabama and throughout KKK country, your are the new South of the 2008, Black and white, like the water fountains, the buses, the schools and the right to vote...Yes for whites No for Blacks. Somethings never change including you.
Those were citizens in Alabama who belong in the US. They were entitled to their rights and their rights were being violated, they were being abused and unjustly treated.
Illegal alien criminals are not citizens. Illegal aliens do NOT belong in the US and have no entitlements to rights.
Illegal aliens are arrogant self entitled, cheating, lying, line jumping thieves. Stealing from legal aliens.
One has nothing to do with the other. The issue of respecting the law of the land is not about race.

Since: Dec 06

Warrenville, IL

#22 Jan 7, 2008
Amendment XIV
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws
In law, jurisdiction (from the Latin ius, iuris meaning "law" and dicere meaning "to speak") is the practical authority granted to a formally constituted legal body or to a political leader to deal with and make pronouncements on legal matters and, by implication, to administer justice within a defined area of responsibility.
Or in common English: Jurisdiction is the authority given to a legal body, or to a political leader (Prime Minister, President, etc.)to deal with legal matters, and to pronounce or enforce legal matters.

When do the Mexicans start paying incom tax to the united States or sign up for the draft?
And abide by all the laws of The United States. Hell when do we start selling the oil from Mexico to benefite American citizens.
Asian Guy

Bangkok, Thailand

#23 Jan 7, 2008
tamar jacoby is a pro-illegal that used a poll taken in los angeles to substantiate his claim that 60 percent of the ALL the america people want the illegals to be granted a path to american citizenship.

los angeles which has been invaded by illegals. where the mayor is pro-illegal. where many of the politicians are voicing an allegiance to mexico.

..need I say more?
PSL

Boca Raton, FL

#24 Jan 7, 2008
Breaking the laws. Obeying the laws. Black & white.
Apalled

San Francisco, CA

#25 Jan 7, 2008
I can't believe what kind of things people say.. "alien trash"?

Have you forgotten every single one of us are alien trash? Or are you Native American, and you'd like to voice your opinion on the millions of "Americans" who decided to build a country in your homeland?

If you fought to get into this country, then you have your right to speak. If you opened your eyes on U.S. soil as I did, then who are you to judge where people want to live their own lives?

“There's only room for ONE flag”

Since: Sep 07

Irving TX

#26 Jan 7, 2008
Apalled wrote:
I can't believe what kind of things people say.. "alien trash"?
Have you forgotten every single one of us are alien trash? Or are you Native American, and you'd like to voice your opinion on the millions of "Americans" who decided to build a country in your homeland?
If you fought to get into this country, then you have your right to speak. If you opened your eyes on U.S. soil as I did, then who are you to judge where people want to live their own lives?
Well quite frankly im "appalled" at your Bible slap upside our ignorant heads LOL
Thankyou for your attempt at History 101 but you failed miserably and now must go to the "back of the line" with your other "classmates". NEXT!

“The Dhimmi Has Awakened”

Since: Mar 07

Omaha, NE (The US Heartland)

#27 Jan 7, 2008
Mexican and Proud wrote:
TLC, by the way have you notice your anti immigration garbage is not resounding with the voters in Iowa, in NH and every where else in America. Racism is among the few, great Americans are smarter than you.
We may have a Black President or even perhaps a McCain....Tancredo OUT, Paul, OUT, Romney OUT...
...illegal mexican aliens OUT

“The Dhimmi Has Awakened”

Since: Mar 07

Omaha, NE (The US Heartland)

#28 Jan 7, 2008
Apalled wrote:
I can't believe what kind of things people say.. "alien trash"?
Have you forgotten every single one of us are alien trash? Or are you Native American, and you'd like to voice your opinion on the millions of "Americans" who decided to build a country in your homeland?
If you fought to get into this country, then you have your right to speak. If you opened your eyes on U.S. soil as I did, then who are you to judge where people want to live their own lives?
I'm apalled that you don't know enough about history to know that the Native Americans are not native to America. Even they came here illegaly and stole the land from the wildlife living here.

Since: Sep 07

Itta Bena, MS

#29 Jan 8, 2008
Not sure if your being serious or tongue in cheek on this one, but I actually like that plan.
Indyeast wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, I'm now leaning toward NO MORE IMMIGRATION.
Another poster noted that we wouldn't replace the 11-20 million illegals now here.
He's right,don't need em,we're overstocked now.
Since the illegal immigrants are here just to make a living and love the U.S. so much,I say legalize them all -All,not just hispanics.
AFTER we militarize all borders with our army,navy,air force and marines.
AND we stop all immigration till 2050.
Now doesn't that sound fair?
We don't get invaded,they get to become part of what used to be the greatest nation in the world.

SGD

Since: Nov 07

Baltimore, MD

#30 Jan 8, 2008
Infidel in the HATEland wrote:
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I'm apalled that you don't know enough about history to know that the Native Americans are not native to America. Even they came here illegaly and stole the land from the wildlife living here.
Well by that logic...maybe the mexicans do have a right to our land. Since their women like to breed with donkeys for money....one might think that they're all 2 legged mutant donkey people.

Since: Dec 06

Warrenville, IL

#31 Jan 8, 2008
SGD wrote:
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Well by that logic...maybe the mexicans do have a right to our land. Since their women like to breed with donkeys for money....one might think that they're all 2 legged mutant donkey people.
lol

White American

“Peace”

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Since: Mar 07

My neighborhood

#32 Jan 8, 2008
Glenn Dalton wrote:
Amendment XIV
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws
In law, jurisdiction (from the Latin ius, iuris meaning "law" and dicere meaning "to speak") is the practical authority granted to a formally constituted legal body or to a political leader to deal with and make pronouncements on legal matters and, by implication, to administer justice within a defined area of responsibility.
Or in common English: Jurisdiction is the authority given to a legal body, or to a political leader (Prime Minister, President, etc.)to deal with legal matters, and to pronounce or enforce legal matters.
When do the Mexicans start paying incom tax to the united States or sign up for the draft?
And abide by all the laws of The United States. Hell when do we start selling the oil from Mexico to benefite American citizens.
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/deny. tes.31.htm

STATEMENT BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEES
ON IMMIGRATION AND CLAIMS
AND
ON THE CONSTITUTION
OF THE HOUSE COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY

The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was meant to reflect the existing common law exception for discrete sets of persons who were deemed subject to a foreign sovereign and immune from U.S. laws, principally children born in the United States of foreign diplomats, with the single additional exception of children of members of Indian tribes. Apart from these extremely limited exceptions, there can be no question that children born in the United States of aliens are subject to the full jurisdiction of the United States. And, as consistently recognized by courts and Attorneys General for over a century, most notably by the Supreme Court in United States v. Wong Kim Ark,(6) there is no question that they possess constitutional citizenship under the Fourteenth Amendment.

Since: Jan 08

Phoenix, AZ

#33 Jan 16, 2008
Just A Random Guy said it:
"I'm not a racist, my problem is not with the race of the people entering the country illegally, its with the fact that they are doing it illegally. There is a lawful process for coming to this country and it should be respected and followed."

Illegal should not be a debate, If you think it is, the next time you are unfortunate enough to get a traffic stop, ASK THE COP if you can debate the issue!
Chris

Martinsburg, WV

#34 Jan 16, 2008
Indyeast, you posted, "Since the illegal immigrants are here just to make a living and love the U.S. so much,I say legalize them all -All,not just hispanics.
AFTER we militarize all borders with our army,navy,air force and marines.
AND we stop all immigration till 2050.
Now doesn't that sound fair?."

No, not fair at all to the HONEST legal aliens. Or to the Americans who get stuck with the DISHONEST illegal aliens as neighbors.

'my opinion'

If you think it's a good idea to stop all legal immigration then you have not been affected yet by America's critical nursing shortage and doctor shortage. God bless the Pilipino, South American, Asian, Indian, Canadian et all LEGAL immigrants.

Dishonest, line jumping illegal alien thieves need to go away.

Thank you Bradley Gee, great point.

Since: Nov 07

Chicago

#35 Jan 16, 2008
I think it really is black and white. Illegal immigrant means you broke the law and need to be penalized. Why is this hard to understand for any American? I follow laws, people in mexico can too.

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