Surprised? Some Climate Scientists Trying to Connect Hurricane Sandy With Global Warming

Oct 29, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: TheBlaze.com

Every time there's a massive weather event - like Hurricane Sandy affecting much of the East Coast early this week - climatologists are called upon to answer the question of whether this weather is evidence of global warming.

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Surprised that Beck's nasty little online rag is whining about it, too?

Nope. Me neither.:)

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What? The same scientists whose climate models were able to accurately predict when and where Sandy would hit land days in advance?

What would they know about it?

Sea level is 7 inches higher, the oceans are warmer and there's more water vapour in the atmosphere. Those crazy climate scientists say maybe those factors made the storm worse.

Maybe they're right.

Record temperatures, record drought, record storms.

Join the dots.
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Fair Game wrote:
What? The same scientists whose climate models were able to accurately predict when and where Sandy would hit land days in advance?
What would they know about it?
Sea level is 7 inches higher, the oceans are warmer and there's more water vapour in the atmosphere. Those crazy climate scientists say maybe those factors made the storm worse.
Maybe they're right.
Record temperatures, record drought, record storms.
Join the dots.
Agreed.

The climate model predictions were awesome on target. Nice job!
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Yes the computer model predictions were awesome. Now if we could get the scientist of global climate change to figure if it's heating or cooling. Maybe they can figure out if it's nature or human made.
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The earth has cycles, warming cycles and cooling cycles. Plus it is billions of years old. To think that something as insignificant to the earth as man could cause any of these cycles is the height of arrogance and stupidity.
On top of which, it was decided by 'scientific consensus' that global warming is real. Stop and examine that phrase,'scientific consensus.' People who can use their brain understand what a joke that phrase is.

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PHD wrote:
Yes the computer model predictions were awesome. Now if we could get the scientist of global climate change to figure if it's heating or cooling. Maybe they can figure out if it's nature or human made.
Every scientific academy on the plane says it's warming, we're responsible and we need to do something about it.
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Fair Game wrote:
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Every scientific academy on the plane says it's warming, we're responsible and we need to do something about it.
Ok show us your work to prove or disprove your statement.
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August wrote:
The earth has cycles, warming cycles and cooling cycles. Plus it is billions of years old. To think that something as insignificant to the earth as man could cause any of these cycles is the height of arrogance and stupidity.
On top of which, it was decided by 'scientific consensus' that global warming is real. Stop and examine that phrase,'scientific consensus.' People who can use their brain understand what a joke that phrase is.
Well good point so prove your statement. Oh do show us your work the cut and paste thing doesn’t work.
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August wrote:
The earth has cycles, warming cycles and cooling cycles. Plus it is billions of years old. To think that something as insignificant to the earth as man could cause any of these cycles is the height of arrogance and stupidity.
On top of which, it was decided by 'scientific consensus' that global warming is real. Stop and examine that phrase,'scientific consensus.' People who can use their brain understand what a joke that phrase is.
People who can use their brains are well out of your range of comprehension, tool.

Wow, the Earth is big and old, so we can't possibly affect its climate, huh?

Now THERE's a brilliant scientific "consensus" of one....LOL
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PHD wrote:
<quoted text>Ok show us your work to prove or disprove your statement.
Who the hell appointed YOU the debate monitor around here?
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The height of arrogance and stupidity. Sadly shaking my head.
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August wrote:
The earth has cycles, warming cycles and cooling cycles. Plus it is billions of years old. To think that something as insignificant to the earth as man could cause any of these cycles is the height of arrogance and stupidity.
On top of which, it was decided by 'scientific consensus' that global warming is real. Stop and examine that phrase,'scientific consensus.' People who can use their brain understand what a joke that phrase is.
Aww you jealous that no science supports your irrelevant post!

Sad man indeed.

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Sandy was a category one hurricane, and a tropical storm when it landed...how is this due to global warming?
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woodtick57 wrote:
Sandy was a category one hurricane, and a tropical storm when it landed...how is this due to global warming?
Right.

How about reading and learning a little?
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<quoted text>Right.
How about reading and learning a little?
I viewed that person on the news minutes ago. The statement made by the reporter was the area destroyed by Sandy will never be the same. Like when you remodel your home it will never be the same. How about so old horse sense.
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August wrote:
The height of arrogance and stupidity. Sadly shaking my head.
Aw, I don't think your posts are THAT bad....;)
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woodtick57 wrote:
Sandy was a category one hurricane, and a tropical storm when it landed...how is this due to global warming?
It was a huge, late-season storm and the warming models tend to predict more, larger, and stronger hurricanes as part of warming.

Personally, I don't see it as incontrovertible evidence of warming's effects, but it was a bit of an oddity.

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SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Right.
How about reading and learning a little?
Pretty normal storm..what would I learn about if i read, and what would I read?

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responder wrote:
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It was a huge, late-season storm and the warming models tend to predict more, larger, and stronger hurricanes as part of warming.
Personally, I don't see it as incontrovertible evidence of warming's effects, but it was a bit of an oddity.
Actually, no. The warming models do not predict more hurricanes. there is far more to making a hurricane than just warm water. The models do predict larger storms.

Sandy was a tropical storm when it made landfall. it happened to do that at highest tide and while meeting up with another normal storm coming vrom the midwest.

you do not do the global warming movement any justice by hyping regular ol' storms into global warming doosday scenarios...

“Geologist [I'm Climate Change]”

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Fair Game wrote:
What? The same scientists whose climate models were able to accurately predict when and where Sandy would hit land days in advance?
What would they know about it?
Sea level is 7 inches higher, the oceans are warmer and there's more water vapour in the atmosphere. Those crazy climate scientists say maybe those factors made the storm worse.
Maybe they're right.
Record temperatures, record drought, record storms.
Join the dots.
Also agreed.

Would advise that the barrier island communities buried by sand now preserve the sand and lift up the houses, and re road the top. Sandy definitely lived up to its name there. Also suggest that beachfront houses now standing high and dry in the tide zone be abandoned. This is not a new recommendation as it happened to Carolina real estate a decade or so ago.

There has long been a link between barrier island position and sea level rise on the USA E. coast, and this one provided an object lesson on this shallowly dipping coastlne.

Have a nice day: Ag

ps.
Not so far seen a link between Bush era climate denial and the "great depression"; appears that Sandy fits that link rather well, as also did Katrina as I recall.
Top marks to the current Dem incumbents for giving FEMA a poke in the right direction early.

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