Gitmo Detainees Sue, Cite Hobby Lobby

Gitmo Detainees Sue, Cite Hobby Lobby

There are 21 comments on the KZBB-FM Fort Smith story from Jul 7, 2014, titled Gitmo Detainees Sue, Cite Hobby Lobby. In it, KZBB-FM Fort Smith reports that:

Just how slippery a slope did the Supreme Court lay out in its controversial Hobby Lobby decision? Lawyers for two Guantanamo Bay detainees aim to find out.

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Sigh

Beverly, MA

#1 Jul 7, 2014
Saw it coming from miles away. Good job SCOTUS. Opened a very big can of worms. Good luck rounding them up without getting your hands dirty.

“i hope we can change this!”

Since: Aug 08

usa

#2 Jul 7, 2014
first of all the "hobby lobby" decision should never have had to go to the supreme court...when it did, it SHOULD'VE been unanimous.
this garbge is just that ... garbage!
shyster lawyers and left wing "journalism"...
following the constitution is HARDLY a "slippery slope"!!!!
well, apparently it is for you liberal progressives....but no one else!
Responsibility

Petaluma, CA

#4 Jul 7, 2014
Sigh wrote:
Saw it coming from miles away. Good job SCOTUS. Opened a very big can of worms. Good luck rounding them up without getting your hands dirty.
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said it best:

"The court, I fear, has ventured into a minefield."
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#5 Jul 7, 2014
Just another disaster CAUSED by the government getting into your business because of OBAMACARE.

Had the government allowed people to take responsibility for their own lives/health instead of butting their noses where it does not belong, NONE of this would be an issue today.
cancer suxs

Faribault, MN

#6 Jul 7, 2014
This ruling is open door for Sharia law. Watch out Christians this ruling your happy about one day will be used against you.

Sad times theocracy here we come.

AND NO NO NO THIS RULING WAS NOT ABOUT BIRTH CONTROL IT WAS ABOUT FORCED RELIGOUS BELIEFS...I don't care if women could go get for free what company would not ay for..BUT USING IGOUS BELIEFS IN LAW IS SHARIA TYPE LAW....

“I'd rather be snowmobiling”

Since: Oct 07

8120'

#7 Jul 7, 2014
carey529 wrote:
first of all the "hobby lobby" decision should never have had to go to the supreme court...when it did, it SHOULD'VE been unanimous.
this garbge is just that ... garbage!
shyster lawyers and left wing "journalism"...
following the constitution is HARDLY a "slippery slope"!!!!
well, apparently it is for you liberal progressives....but no one else!
Corporations are people,
People are idiots.
Example: Any of your posts.
spocko

Oakland, CA

#8 Jul 7, 2014
carey529 wrote:
first of all the "hobby lobby" decision should never have had to go to the supreme court...when it did, it SHOULD'VE been unanimous.
this garbge is just that ... garbage!
shyster lawyers and left wing "journalism"...
following the constitution is HARDLY a "slippery slope"!!!!
well, apparently it is for you liberal progressives....but no one else!
You're not the brightest bulb in chandelier ares you moron!? It's clearly the conservatives who have been pushing this thing to the courts. If my religion objects to paying taxes can I now get an exemption?

“Yeah, but...”

Since: Sep 11

MILKY WAY

#9 Jul 7, 2014
Any prisoner anywhere loses some, if not all, rights.
American citizens, even prisoners, have certain protections.
However, it is a long stretch to provide prisoners all the rights afforded free Americans, longer still when those prisoners are being held to protect the natin from terrorism.

It's a moot point anyway.
Obama will release them as soon as our enemies pick up another deserter.
Religious Corruption

Beverly, MA

#10 Jul 7, 2014
Eleanor wrote:
Just another disaster CAUSED by the government getting into your business because of OBAMACARE.
Had the government allowed people to take responsibility for their own lives/health instead of butting their noses where it does not belong, NONE of this would be an issue today.
Eleanor, Eleanor, you are talking in circles. The whole point of the affordable care act is to force people to get insured and take responsibility for their own healthcare.

Do you realize how many folks drop into emergency rooms uninsured? Do you realize that the awful games hospitals play with our hospital invoices is directly related to the fact that the hospital is always in the red? One way or another, uninsured people are mooching off of those of us who are insured.

It is not fair for many people in the public to forgo health insurance and then end up in the hospital and then stick the rest of us with the bill. So the point is to make it affordable for lower income folks and to insure those who truly cannot afford insurance through government programs.

And companies can provide insurance, or pay a fine. Why didn't Hobby Lobby just pay the fine? It would have been cheaper.

Soooo, if everybody buys insurance, or works for a company that provides it, then eventually this kind of crap will happen less often. And this idea was originally thought of by Republicans. They were the ones who thought of this and it is a good idea in principle.

Problem is, once a democrat thought it was a good idea, all of a sudden the republicans then had to act like babies and reject it.

And worse, we are still waiting for republicans to come up with a better idea. Going back to letting folks run around without insurance is not an option.

And, birth control helps all of us. Goodness knows not enough people are using it. The more people use birth control, the fewer will resort to abortions. Isn't that a win/win?

Or do you just have to disagree with anything just because Obama is somehow involved?
spocko

Oakland, CA

#11 Jul 7, 2014
Religious Corruption wrote:
<quoted text>
Eleanor, Eleanor, you are talking in circles. The whole point of the affordable care act is to force people to get insured and take responsibility for their own healthcare.
Do you realize how many folks drop into emergency rooms uninsured? Do you realize that the awful games hospitals play with our hospital invoices is directly related to the fact that the hospital is always in the red? One way or another, uninsured people are mooching off of those of us who are insured.
It is not fair for many people in the public to forgo health insurance and then end up in the hospital and then stick the rest of us with the bill. So the point is to make it affordable for lower income folks and to insure those who truly cannot afford insurance through government programs.
And companies can provide insurance, or pay a fine. Why didn't Hobby Lobby just pay the fine? It would have been cheaper.
Soooo, if everybody buys insurance, or works for a company that provides it, then eventually this kind of crap will happen less often. And this idea was originally thought of by Republicans. They were the ones who thought of this and it is a good idea in principle.
Problem is, once a democrat thought it was a good idea, all of a sudden the republicans then had to act like babies and reject it.
And worse, we are still waiting for republicans to come up with a better idea. Going back to letting folks run around without insurance is not an option.
And, birth control helps all of us. Goodness knows not enough people are using it. The more people use birth control, the fewer will resort to abortions. Isn't that a win/win?
Or do you just have to disagree with anything just because Obama is somehow involved?
When the state of colorado implemented a birth control program teen pregnancies dropped by more than 50%
spocko

Oakland, CA

#12 Jul 7, 2014
America’s roads and bridges are literally falling apart (as are the railroads), suffering from years of neglect and deferred maintenance. The federal government can now borrow at historically low interest rates to get the job done. The public return on such infrastructure investment is very high, many times the cost. Some 8 million Americans desperately need jobs, and rebuilding the nation’s infrastructure would not only provide some but also have a large multiplier effect! The question is – why is congress sitting on their collective ass? Conservative morons love to complain about the “non-working” poor, but most of America’s poor work hard, often in two or more jobs. The real non-workers are the wealthy who inherit their fortunes while avoiding taxes yet feeding on the public trough, and their ranks are about to explode.
coyote

Biloxi, MS

#13 Jul 7, 2014
As to rights of imprisoned jihadis: Did we allow German POWs to keep copies of Mein Kampf and hold Nazi rallies? I doubt it. They also were in FOR THE DURATION of the war. Why should we treat jihadis any different? If they choose to wage an eternal war, they are welcome to be our eternal guests.
foster

Colby, KS

#14 Jul 7, 2014
twostroketerror wrote:
<quoted text>
Corporations are people,
People are idiots.
Example: Obama voters
well said

“i hope we can change this!”

Since: Aug 08

usa

#15 Jul 7, 2014
twostroketerror wrote:
<quoted text>
Corporations are people,
People are idiots.
Example: Any of your posts.
the twostrokemoron strikes again...

Ensuring Religious Freedom for All « Office of Public Affairs
blogs.justice.gov/main/archives/969 Cached
Ensuring Religious Freedom for All.... The law, which passed both houses of Congress unanimously and was ... President Clinton said: Religious liberty is a ...

not only was hobby lobby protected by Clinton's law, they were protected by the constitution...
oh, yeah ... I should probably explain to you what the constitution is.
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#19 Jul 8, 2014
Religious Corruption wrote:
<quoted text>
Eleanor, Eleanor, you are talking in circles. The whole point of the affordable care act is to force people to get insured and take responsibility for their own healthcare.
Do you realize how many folks drop into emergency rooms uninsured? Do you realize that the awful games hospitals play with our hospital invoices is directly related to the fact that the hospital is always in the red? One way or another, uninsured people are mooching off of those of us who are insured.
It is not fair for many people in the public to forgo health insurance and then end up in the hospital and then stick the rest of us with the bill. So the point is to make it affordable for lower income folks and to insure those who truly cannot afford insurance through government programs.
And companies can provide insurance, or pay a fine. Why didn't Hobby Lobby just pay the fine? It would have been cheaper.
Soooo, if everybody buys insurance, or works for a company that provides it, then eventually this kind of crap will happen less often. And this idea was originally thought of by Republicans. They were the ones who thought of this and it is a good idea in principle.
Problem is, once a democrat thought it was a good idea, all of a sudden the republicans then had to act like babies and reject it.
And worse, we are still waiting for republicans to come up with a better idea. Going back to letting folks run around without insurance is not an option.
And, birth control helps all of us. Goodness knows not enough people are using it. The more people use birth control, the fewer will resort to abortions. Isn't that a win/win?
Or do you just have to disagree with anything just because Obama is somehow involved?
Health insurance is NOT HEALTHCARE. It is INSURANCE.

The idea that PEOPLE are being mandated to provide funding to purchase insurance from for- profit insurance companies so that OTHER people can pay their health care expenses amounts to TAKING from the PRODUCTIVE people for the benefit of non-productive people.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" is pure Marxist.

Socialistic societies eventually run out of other peoples money. Socialism glorifies big brother—the state—and undermines the individual.

This kind of thinking erodes the freedoms and liberties of human beings and creates a larger, more intrusive government.

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#20 Jul 8, 2014
I say go ahead and give the Gitmo guys birth control.
spocko

Oakland, CA

#23 Jul 8, 2014
Eleanor wrote:
<quoted text>
Health insurance is NOT HEALTHCARE. It is INSURANCE.
The idea that PEOPLE are being mandated to provide funding to purchase insurance from for- profit insurance companies so that OTHER people can pay their health care expenses amounts to TAKING from the PRODUCTIVE people for the benefit of non-productive people.
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" is pure Marxist.
Socialistic societies eventually run out of other peoples money. Socialism glorifies big brother—the state—and undermines the individual.
This kind of thinking erodes the freedoms and liberties of human beings and creates a larger, more intrusive government.
What socialist societies? Can you name them?
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#24 Jul 8, 2014
spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
What socialist societies? Can you name them?
People's Republic of China (mainland China)
Vietnam
Cuba
Lao People's Democratic Republic (Laos)
Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea)
nope

Laurinburg, NC

#25 Jul 8, 2014
coyote wrote:
As to rights of imprisoned jihadis: Did we allow German POWs to keep copies of Mein Kampf and hold Nazi rallies? I doubt it. They also were in FOR THE DURATION of the war. Why should we treat jihadis any different? If they choose to wage an eternal war, they are welcome to be our eternal guests.
you sound like you think this war actually has an end.
spocko

Oakland, CA

#26 Jul 8, 2014
Eleanor wrote:
<quoted text>
People's Republic of China (mainland China)
Vietnam
Cuba
Lao People's Democratic Republic (Laos)
Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea)
Very good Elanor, except for China and Vietnam which adopted a capitalist economy.Vietnam has gone from being one of the poorest places on earth to one of south-east Asia's success stories.
Now are you really going to compare the US with Laos? Cuba? N. Korea? I didn't think so educate yourself and stop listening to the pathetic wing nutz radio talking morons!!

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