Skull Valley lawmaker wants both sides of climate change taught to students

Feb 5, 2013 Full story: Verde Independent 1,644

Saying students are getting only one side of the debate, a state senator wants to free teachers to tell students why they believe there is no such thing human-caused "global warming.' The proposal by Sen.

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SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#146 Feb 12, 2013
Human finger print on climate change:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/Human_Fi...

Since: Nov 08

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#147 Feb 12, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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Because their claims don't rise to the level of requiring to be refuted.
There's a homeless guy downtown who screams "I've got squirrels in my pants."
He doesn't. Also, his claim does not need to be refuted. He's nuts.
Same goes for these scientists who are claiming that humans are not adding to the CO2 levels which have been climbing since we started burning carbon to convert it to CO2 and releasing it.
It's obvious on its face. To deny it is ridiculous.
That's a nice strategy. You just make up whatever your perverted imagination perceives and then you believe the lie that you just created. All of the dissident climate scientists profiled at http://everythingimportant.org/climategate agree that human produced CO2 and global temperatures are rising. They simply argue that the increased CO2 is too insignificant to explain current global temperatures.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#148 Feb 12, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>The claim that the climate scientists profiled in the movie have never passed a high school science course is just plain silly.
I see you have a bit of a reading problem. The dig is quite clearly at the writer of the movie, who indeed has never passed a high school science course.

As to the handful of scientists appearing in the movie, two immediately backed away from it and said their views had been misrepresented, three are fossil fuel industry whores paid to misrepresent the science in the same way that some scientists were paid to claim smoking didn't cause cancer by the tobacco industry (one of them actually did just that, moving on to AGW denial after cancer denial) and one is a charlatan weather forecaster.

Leaving one climate scientist whose theory of negative feedback to AGW was shown to be wrong years ago.

What a joke.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#149 Feb 13, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>My point is that everyone on this thread is incapable of refuting the dissident climate scientists.
And of course this internet forum thread is of **extreme** importance to the scientific community.

After all, Shoob's on it.
PHD

Overton, TX

#150 Feb 13, 2013
More scientific science fiction wanna be scientists that use cut and paste useless babble to defend their position on scientific science fiction.
FYMO

Carol Stream, IL

#151 Feb 13, 2013
litesong wrote:
FYMO wrote:
And at one point the consensus of the scientific community was that Eugenics was going tosave mankind.
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The Dude wrote:
Or was it just the Nazis and Americans who dabbled in it in the early 20th century?
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litesong wrote:
Hitler got his idea of the Jewish concentration camps from transplanted euro(american) ideas about Native Tribes concentration camps(reservations).
More connections between Hitler, killing Jews & transplanted euros, killing Native Tribes.
And it is still going on today in parts of Asia- espicially North Korea where babies who are part Korean and part Chinese are killed by the government. It occured for hundreds of years in Asia in Chinese, Japanese and Korean cultures who felt that mixed race children weakened the culture.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#152 Feb 13, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
As to the handful of scientists appearing in the movie, two immediately backed away from it and said their views had been misrepresented,
Isn't it wise to be cautious about our jobs in a world dominated by heresy hunters and a global warming religion?

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#153 Feb 13, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
I see you have a bit of a reading problem. The dig is quite clearly at the writer of the movie, who indeed has never passed a high school science course.
I see then that you haven't seen the movie. The dissident climate scientists are doing a lot of talking in the film and their message is clear.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#154 Feb 13, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
I see you have a bit of a reading problem.
You haven't even noticed the other videos at http://everythingimportant.org/climategate . Isn't that a serious vision problem? I suppose you also think that you're capable of refuting Freeman Dyson's commentary on global warming?
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#155 Feb 13, 2013
litesong wrote:
FYMO wrote:
And at one point the consensus of the scientific community was that Eugenics was going tosave mankind.
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The Dude wrote:
Or was it just the Nazis and Americans who dabbled in it in the early 20th century?
//////////
litesong wrote:
Hitler got his idea of the Jewish concentration camps from transplanted euro(american) ideas about Native Tribes concentration camps(reservations).
More connections between Hitler, killing Jews & transplanted euros, killing Native Tribes.
//////////
FYMO
And it is still going on today in parts of Asia- espicially North Korea where babies who are part Korean and part Chinese are killed by the government. It occured for hundreds of years in Asia in Chinese, Japanese and Korean cultures who felt that mixed race children weakened the culture.
//////////
litesong wrote:
We haven't even talked about chinese communists(ALWAYS SMALL LETTERS) who murdered, tortured & starved to death, 100 million of their own BROTHERS, SISTERS, CHILDREN & BABIES to hammer the chains of communism around the necks of HONORABLE CHINESE CITIZENS.

Since: Nov 08

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#156 Feb 13, 2013
I agree with Dr. Richard Lindzen, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology Professor of Atmospheric Science, and other highly respected climatologists:

"Future generations will wonder in bemused amazement that the early 21st century's developed world went into hysterical panic over a globally averaged temperature increase of a few tenths of a degree, and, on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to contemplate a roll-back of the industrial age."
http://everythingimportant.org/climategate

Since: Nov 08

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#157 Feb 13, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
I see you have a bit of a reading problem. The dig is quite clearly at the writer of the movie, who indeed has never passed a high school science course.
British television producer Martin Durkin is an obvious genius. You're just jealous of his talents and wish you could make a film as revealing and entertaining as http://everythingimportant.org/climategate
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#158 Feb 13, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>British television producer Martin Durkin is an obvious genius. You're just jealous of his talents and wish you could make a film as revealing and entertaining as
Oh, it's an entertainment show! Ellen G White is an obvious genius. She failed to predict the comeback of Jesus twice! And Harold Camping did something similar.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#160 Feb 13, 2013
The Dude wrote:
Ellen G White ... failed to predict the comeback of Jesus twice!
And you are a vacuum cleaner. You pick up whatever dirt that you bump into but have no thoughts about the origin of it.
PHD

Overton, TX

#161 Feb 13, 2013
litesong wrote:
litesong wrote:
FYMO wrote:
And at one point the consensus of the scientific community was that Eugenics was going tosave mankind.
//////////
The Dude wrote:
Or was it just the Nazis and Americans who dabbled in it in the early 20th century?
//////////
litesong wrote:
Hitler got his idea of the Jewish concentration camps from transplanted euro(american) ideas about Native Tribes concentration camps(reservations).
More connections between Hitler, killing Jews & transplanted euros, killing Native Tribes.
//////////
FYMO
And it is still going on today in parts of Asia- espicially North Korea where babies who are part Korean and part Chinese are killed by the government. It occured for hundreds of years in Asia in Chinese, Japanese and Korean cultures who felt that mixed race children weakened the culture.
//////////
litesong wrote:
We haven't even talked about chinese communists(ALWAYS SMALL LETTERS) who murdered, tortured & starved to death, 100 million of their own BROTHERS, SISTERS, CHILDREN & BABIES to hammer the chains of communism around the necks of HONORABLE CHINESE CITIZENS.
In addition, you think topix does not know what you publish. Attacks on me will not delete or erase what you are and what you do. You should stop making an ASSumption of your---self before you know the facts. Do contact topix to satisfy your accusations of the reprint BS your posting of what I said. You are a dumbASSumption of your---self again.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#162 Feb 13, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text> And you are a vacuum cleaner. You pick up whatever dirt that you bump into but have no thoughts about the origin of it.
Irony meter go boom.
PHD

Overton, TX

#163 Feb 13, 2013
It should go boom boom boom.

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#164 Feb 13, 2013
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>In addition, you think topix does not know what you publish. Attacks on me will not delete or erase what you are and what you do. You should stop making an ASSumption of your---self before you know the facts. Do contact topix to satisfy your accusations of the reprint BS your posting of what I said. You are a dumbASSumption of your---self again.
Seriously, what where were you born? Clearly English is not your primary language.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#165 Feb 13, 2013
PHD wrote:
It should go boom boom boom.
Frequently does whenever fundies are around.

Except still not as classy as JLH.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#166 Feb 13, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>That's a nice strategy. You just make up whatever your perverted imagination perceives and then you believe the lie that you just created. All of the dissident climate scientists profiled at http://everythingimportant.org/climategate agree that human produced CO2 and global temperatures are rising. They simply argue that the increased CO2 is too insignificant to explain current global temperatures.
Still no answer.

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