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Think the Planet Isn't Warming? Check the Ocean

There are 37 comments on the news.discovery.com story from Apr 11, 2013, titled Think the Planet Isn't Warming? Check the Ocean. In it, news.discovery.com reports that:

A recent article in The Economist stated that "over the past 15 years air temperatures at the Earth's surface have been flat while greenhouse-gas emissions have continued to soar." The Economist went to great lengths to point out that "the mismatch between rising greenhouse-gas emissions and not-rising temperatures a does not mean global warming is ... (more)

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Ninthman

“Obama Shames the USA”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#1 Apr 11, 2013
Calling Al Gore
Calling Al Gore
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***ManBearPig Alert***
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Calling Al Gore
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Democrats are gullible idiots like all the other communists.
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Calling Al Gore

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#2 Apr 11, 2013
Ninthman wrote:
Calling Al Gore
Calling Al Gore
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***ManBearPig Alert***
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Calling Al Gore
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Democrats are gullible idiots like all the other communists.
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Calling Al Gore
Is is your belief that the world is not rapidly warming, due to our heavy reliance on fossil fuel, and relese of Carbon?
AntiMelting

Garden City, MI

#3 Apr 11, 2013
Mr_Bill wrote:
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Is is your belief that the world is not rapidly warming, due to our heavy reliance on fossil fuel, and relese of Carbon?
LOL!

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#4 Apr 11, 2013
AntiMelting wrote:
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LOL!
No sane person laughs at environmental disaster.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#5 Apr 11, 2013
Mr_Bill wrote:
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No sane person laughs at environmental disaster.
Sane teabaggers? Whod'a thunk it.

Since: Dec 07

Spring, TX

#7 Apr 11, 2013
Mr_Bill wrote:
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No sane person laughs at environmental disaster.
We're not laughing at a man made environmental disaster....we're laughing at you gullible liberals falling for everything big al tells you after he is directed by George Soros...you really are gullible people. LMAO

The natural cycle is understood by examining the paleo records. The fact that the earth goes in and out of ice ages distinctly outlines the natural cycles of earths climate. This occurs about every 100,000 years. We are currently in a warm period. Generally, the earth spends about 80-90,000 years in an ice age and around 10-20,000 years (or so) in a warm period.

You're scare tactics ain't working no more, billy.

Since: Dec 07

Spring, TX

#8 Apr 11, 2013
Mr_Bill wrote:
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Is is your belief that the world is not rapidly warming, due to our heavy reliance on fossil fuel, and relese of Carbon?
It's warming a tad...but not due to use of fossil fuel...

Get a life, get off the demoganda machine.

http://www.drroyspencer.com/global-warming-na...

“Baby Obama”

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#9 Apr 11, 2013
Mr_Bill wrote:
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No sane person laughs at environmental disaster.
No sane person thinks they can control Mother Nature.

It's so hot here in Iowa today it's snowing in the middle of April.
SpaceBlues

United States

#10 Apr 11, 2013
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
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It's warming a tad...but not due to use of fossil fuel...
Get a life, get off the demoganda machine.
http://www.drroyspencer.com/global-warming-na...
So why did you follow this with that?
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
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We're not laughing at a man made environmental disaster....we're laughing at you gullible liberals falling for everything big al tells you after he is directed by George Soros...you really are gullible people. LMAO
The natural cycle is understood by examining the paleo records. The fact that the earth goes in and out of ice ages distinctly outlines the natural cycles of earths climate. This occurs about every 100,000 years. We are currently in a warm period. Generally, the earth spends about 80-90,000 years in an ice age and around 10-20,000 years (or so) in a warm period.
You're scare tactics ain't working no more..
You are mainly confused.
SpaceBlues

United States

#11 Apr 11, 2013
Space Cowboy wrote:
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No sane person thinks they can control Mother Nature.
It's so hot here in Iowa today it's snowing in the middle of April.
Tell me what's happening to the 90 million tons of man-made CO2 emitted into our atmosphere?

You're making MN very mad! <sarcasm>
SpaceBlues

United States

#12 Apr 11, 2013
That's daily: 90 million tons of man-made CO2 emitted daily into our atmosphere.

Enough to make MN hopping mad.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#13 Apr 11, 2013
Space Cowboy wrote:
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No sane person thinks they can control Mother Nature.
It's so hot here in Iowa today it's snowing in the middle of April.
You'd be a lot cooler if you got your ignorant teabag head out of your frightwingnut ignorant ass.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#14 Apr 11, 2013
Space Cowboy wrote:
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No sane person thinks they can control Mother Nature.
It's so hot here in Iowa today it's snowing in the middle of April.
It is pretty flat, there in Iowa; so the Earth too must be flat.
SpaceBlues

United States

#15 Apr 11, 2013
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
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It's warming a tad...but not due to use of fossil fuel...
Get a life, get off the demoganda machine.
http://www.drroyspencer.com/global-warming-na...
So waht's the cause according to you?

By the way, tell this to drroyspenser.com :

A timely perspective article in Science this week [11/26/2006] addresses the issues of upper atmosphere change.‘Upper’ atmosphere here is the stratosphere up to the ionosphere (~20 to 300 km). Laštovi&#269;ka et al point out that cooling trends are exactly as predicted by increasing greenhouse gas trends, and that the increase in density that this implies is causing various ionspheric layers to ‘fall’. This was highlighted a few years back by Jarvis et al (1998) and in New Scientist in 1999 (and I apologise for stealing their headline!).

The changes in the figure are related to the cooling seen in the lower stratospheric MSU-4 records (UAH or RSS), but the changes there (~ 15-20 km) are predominantly due to ozone depletion. The higher up one goes, the more important the CO2 related cooling is. It’s interesting to note that significant solar forcing would have exactly the opposite effect (it would cause a warming)– yet another reason to doubt that solar forcing is a significant factor in recent decades.

Since: Dec 07

Spring, TX

#16 Apr 11, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>So why did you follow this with that?
<quoted text>You are mainly confused.
If.....it's natural, genius!! Read slower, have your mommy help.

Climate Change: A new study shows that Earth's ability to absorb carbon dioxide from all sources, including man, has remained unchanged for 160 years. As it turns out, there may be no carbon to offset.

A major tenet of the global warming religion, straight from the Book of Gore, has been that the ability of the earth to handle increasing CO2 emissions is finite and that once the "tipping point" is reached, the earth will warm uncontrollably. Well, another climate domino has fallen — the myth that man-made CO2 is leading to climate catastrophe.

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/0105...

Of the ~97% natural origin CO2, the vast majority comes from undersea vents, by a curious path. High heat, high pressure gas is discharged into 150 atmospheres and 2C water, forming liquid CO2 almost instantly. This forms "vast pools of liquid CO2 on the ocean floor" per "Volcanic CO2" by Timothy Casey, posted at geology-1011.net . This reservoir keeps the ocean at maximum CO2 gas saturation at all times. When the ocean warms, it releases this stored gas. This warming is NOT from subduction of surface warmth, but upwelling of varialble geothermal energy.

Hang in there, sunshine and tell big al we said "hey!"

Since: Dec 07

Spring, TX

#17 Apr 11, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>So waht's the cause according to you?
By the way, tell this to drroyspenser.com :
A timely perspective article in Science this week [11/26/2006] addresses the issues of upper atmosphere change.‘Upper’ atmosphere here is the stratosphere up to the ionosphere (~20 to 300 km). Laštovi&#269;ka et al point out that cooling trends are exactly as predicted by increasing greenhouse gas trends, and that the increase in density that this implies is causing various ionspheric layers to ‘fall’. This was highlighted a few years back by Jarvis et al (1998) and in New Scientist in 1999 (and I apologise for stealing their headline!).
The changes in the figure are related to the cooling seen in the lower stratospheric MSU-4 records (UAH or RSS), but the changes there (~ 15-20 km) are predominantly due to ozone depletion. The higher up one goes, the more important the CO2 related cooling is. It’s interesting to note that significant solar forcing would have exactly the opposite effect (it would cause a warming)– yet another reason to doubt that solar forcing is a significant factor in recent decades.
Don't need to tell Dr. Spencer anything...too far over your head.

Thursday, August 30, 2012New blockbuster paper finds man-made CO2 is not the driver of global warming
An important new paper published today in Global and Planetary Change finds that changes in CO2 follow rather than lead global air surface temperature and that "CO2 released from use of fossil fuels have little influence on the observed changes in the amount of atmospheric CO2" The paper finds the "overall global temperature change sequence of events appears to be from 1) the ocean surface to 2) the land surface to 3) the lower troposphere," in other words, the opposite of claims by global warming alarmists that CO2 in the atmosphere drives land and ocean temperatures. Instead, just as in the ice cores, CO2 levels are found to be a lagging effect of ocean warming, not significantly related to man-made emissions, and not the driver of warming. Prior research has shown infrared radiation from greenhouse gases is incapable of warming the oceans, only shortwave radiation from the Sun is capable of penetrating and heating the oceans and thereby driving global surface temperatures.

Send big al another 20...he's down to his last 400 million!! LMAO

Since: Dec 07

Spring, TX

#18 Apr 11, 2013
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>You'd be a lot cooler if you got your ignorant teabag head out of your frightwingnut ignorant ass.
Brilliant...just brilliant..(Chuckle)
SpaceBlues

United States

#19 Apr 11, 2013
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
<quoted text>
If.....it's natural, genius!! Read slower, have your mommy help.
Climate Change: A new study shows that Earth's ability to absorb carbon dioxide from all sources, including man, has remained unchanged for 160 years. As it turns out, there may be no carbon to offset.
A major tenet of the global warming religion, straight from the Book of Gore, has been that the ability of the earth to handle increasing CO2 emissions is finite and that once the "tipping point" is reached, the earth will warm uncontrollably. Well, another climate domino has fallen — the myth that man-made CO2 is leading to climate catastrophe.
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/0105...
Of the ~97% natural origin CO2, the vast majority comes from undersea vents, by a curious path. High heat, high pressure gas is discharged into 150 atmospheres and 2C water, forming liquid CO2 almost instantly. This forms "vast pools of liquid CO2 on the ocean floor" per "Volcanic CO2" by Timothy Casey, posted at geology-1011.net . This reservoir keeps the ocean at maximum CO2 gas saturation at all times. When the ocean warms, it releases this stored gas. This warming is NOT from subduction of surface warmth, but upwelling of varialble geothermal energy.
Hang in there, sunshine and tell big al we said "hey!"
Sweet ... but WRONG.

Science spells it's the man-made CO2. Your material is not science but gossip.
SpaceBlues

United States

#20 Apr 11, 2013
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
<quoted text>
Brilliant...just brilliant..(Chuckle)
No chuckle.

Read about the latest:

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives...
SpaceBlues

United States

#21 Apr 11, 2013
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
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Don't need to tell Dr. Spencer anything...too far over your head.
Thursday, August 30, 2012New blockbuster paper finds man-made CO2 is not the driver of global warming
An important new paper published today in Global and Planetary Change finds that changes in CO2 follow rather than lead global air surface temperature and that "CO2 released from use of fossil fuels have little influence on the observed changes in the amount of atmospheric CO2" The paper finds the "overall global temperature change sequence of events appears to be from 1) the ocean surface to 2) the land surface to 3) the lower troposphere," in other words, the opposite of claims by global warming alarmists that CO2 in the atmosphere drives land and ocean temperatures. Instead, just as in the ice cores, CO2 levels are found to be a lagging effect of ocean warming, not significantly related to man-made emissions, and not the driver of warming. Prior research has shown infrared radiation from greenhouse gases is incapable of warming the oceans, only shortwave radiation from the Sun is capable of penetrating and heating the oceans and thereby driving global surface temperatures.
Send big al another 20...he's down to his last 400 million!! LMAO
No, Al Gore's money is not from me.

It's definitely "too far over your head." Read my previous post for the latest.

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